Page 8 | Has there been an influx of TRAs to Mumsnet recently?

GreyskySexRealistsky · 19/06/2026 13:08

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/06/2026 12:39

Have you considered it's often people who love our trans family, friends and colleagues and are upset by the tone of aggressive sarcasm directed at them on here.

To be clear, I'm not saying that's everyone. Fair few kind people have responded to me, and don't use slurs or misgendering to describe my child. They don't theorise about why he exists, accuse me of making him trans (!!) or make speculative, highly personal comments about his body. And they aren't on here all day sharing conspiracy theories about kids like him. Shame they're in the minority, really.

The pseudo-anthropology, rage and dehumanisation directed at trans people on this forum is deeply upsetting. It's having real-world effects, contributing to the extreme violence trans people (especially children) are coping with, which is destroying their lives.

Seeing our loved ones discussed like they're some evil gang is horrible.

Pushback is happening because of the ignorant, angry and honestly quite paranoid attitude some posters are displaying towards real people.

Calling trans people and their families 'TRAs' and discussing them in venomous, openly hateful, conspiratorial terms is sickening. It upsets me very much. Because I want my child to live, and seeing the poisonous attitude to people like him on here is going to make me react, yeah.

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You're not above a bit of aggressive sarcasm yourself. It's visible even in this ^ post. And you're not above dehumanising and labelling women on here. Perhaps it's easier to do that than consider that sometimes we might have a point. Especially when it comes to male violence.

Many posters are victims of male violence, which is why we don't want trans identifying males in our spaces and services. THAT has real-world effects on women and children.

Paranoia is thinking everyone is against your child. They aren't. It sounds like your child has had a terrible time. The school should have dealt with the bullying. Clearly they didn't and clearly there are unresolved issues there.

To put it bluntly, you speak on here as if you're the leading authority on trans people. You aren't. Many posters are parents, children, siblings, friends and colleagues of trans people. And their views and experiences are valid too.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/06/2026 12:52

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/06/2026 12:39

Have you considered it's often people who love our trans family, friends and colleagues and are upset by the tone of aggressive sarcasm directed at them on here.

To be clear, I'm not saying that's everyone. Fair few kind people have responded to me, and don't use slurs or misgendering to describe my child. They don't theorise about why he exists, accuse me of making him trans (!!) or make speculative, highly personal comments about his body. And they aren't on here all day sharing conspiracy theories about kids like him. Shame they're in the minority, really.

The pseudo-anthropology, rage and dehumanisation directed at trans people on this forum is deeply upsetting. It's having real-world effects, contributing to the extreme violence trans people (especially children) are coping with, which is destroying their lives.

Seeing our loved ones discussed like they're some evil gang is horrible.

Pushback is happening because of the ignorant, angry and honestly quite paranoid attitude some posters are displaying towards real people.

Calling trans people and their families 'TRAs' and discussing them in venomous, openly hateful, conspiratorial terms is sickening. It upsets me very much. Because I want my child to live, and seeing the poisonous attitude to people like him on here is going to make me react, yeah.

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Emotional blackmail is a square on the bingo card.

This a public forum, nobody's made you share your personal details. Nobody is under any obligation to sugarcoat their response to you, if they feel strongly that what your doing is fundamental wrong.

Tallisker · 19/06/2026 12:40

hholiday · 18/06/2026 20:05

I’ve noticed a lot of them post overnight. Which might account for the lack of coherence

“They’re probably foreigners, with ways different to our own”.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 19/06/2026 12:39

ByTheRiverside · 17/06/2026 16:08

I'm a long time reader. Only recently started to participate.

I very rarely saw any TRAs on here over the years. But in the past few weeks, I've noticed a lot of them coming here.

You can generally tell by the absolute shite coming out of their mouths, such as being avid apologists for sex offenders.

What's their deal with coming here? Are they saying that their 'womanhood' is reliant on us conforming to their belief, so they're trying to get us to agree with them? If that's so, then welcome!!! You're going to have to get used to reality real quick if you stick around.

Has anyone else noticed this, or just me?

Have you considered it's often people who love our trans family, friends and colleagues and are upset by the tone of aggressive sarcasm directed at them on here.

To be clear, I'm not saying that's everyone. Fair few kind people have responded to me, and don't use slurs or misgendering to describe my child. They don't theorise about why he exists, accuse me of making him trans (!!) or make speculative, highly personal comments about his body. And they aren't on here all day sharing conspiracy theories about kids like him. Shame they're in the minority, really.

The pseudo-anthropology, rage and dehumanisation directed at trans people on this forum is deeply upsetting. It's having real-world effects, contributing to the extreme violence trans people (especially children) are coping with, which is destroying their lives.

Seeing our loved ones discussed like they're some evil gang is horrible.

Pushback is happening because of the ignorant, angry and honestly quite paranoid attitude some posters are displaying towards real people.

Calling trans people and their families 'TRAs' and discussing them in venomous, openly hateful, conspiratorial terms is sickening. It upsets me very much. Because I want my child to live, and seeing the poisonous attitude to people like him on here is going to make me react, yeah.

SwirlyGates · 19/06/2026 10:58

Because the thread wouldn't be derailed if every body ignored them.

Yes, it's my mid-year resolution not to respond to nonsense. I'm happy to engage in genuine debate, but not with bad faith posters.

IwantToRetire · 19/06/2026 01:05

ByTheRiverside · 18/06/2026 22:55

Degenerate lifestyles tend to be all-encompassing. They spend all their time on computers because they can only pretend not to be their sex on the internet.

That's why they're up at god knows what time.

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That's a really silly remark. As late at night is my only quiet time I am often on this forum, and know others are as well!

Its a bit smug and tiny bit limiting to assume only those who act and live like you have anything to say.

As i keep saying threads only get derailed because far to many take the bait and answer. Which is pointless. They dont pay any attention. They are interested in what you have to say. They just want to take up your time, whilst laughing at you, and achieving what they set out to do. Derail a thread.

Because the thread wouldn't be derailed if every body ignored them.

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ByTheRiverside · 18/06/2026 22:55

GCScot · 18/06/2026 21:28

And also the time of day they post (night-time in UK, daytime in US). There always seems to be a fresh slew of posts if I check the boards early morning UK-time

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Degenerate lifestyles tend to be all-encompassing. They spend all their time on computers because they can only pretend not to be their sex on the internet.

That's why they're up at god knows what time.

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RedToothBrush · 18/06/2026 21:44

hholiday · 18/06/2026 20:05

I’ve noticed a lot of them post overnight. Which might account for the lack of coherence

That's not very fair on American or Australians 😉

GCScot · 18/06/2026 21:28

NumberTheory · 18/06/2026 02:50

It’s already the summer break for most in the USA - where a hell of a lot of the TRA energy and (un)reasoning comes from judging by the language used.

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And also the time of day they post (night-time in UK, daytime in US). There always seems to be a fresh slew of posts if I check the boards early morning UK-time

GCScot · 18/06/2026 21:19

SwirlyGates · 17/06/2026 21:03

Yes, I've noticed a bunch of unfamiliar usernames (new to me at any rate, I don't remember everyone of course), posting nonsense over and over on otherwise interesting threads. I don't know if they are genuinely confused or, more likely, have come over here from BlueHair or Reddit with the intention of derailing so they can say, "Oh look, I wasted a lot of TERF time today."

YES!

Intentional derailing of a thread by spamming tons and tons of posts with word salad

I had it happen with one of my threads recently and wasn't able to continue the discussion on the original topic. I had more I wanted to say! 😂

We should all agree to just ignore them 🙈

Hedgehogforshort · 18/06/2026 21:12

Hedgehogforshort · 17/06/2026 16:18

I am gonna follow this post to see if they show up!!!!

Well…….

Hedgehogforshort · 18/06/2026 20:21

the phrase “cis gender” is such a bait, it used to give me the rage. I now realise that if i see that phrase i can completely ignore the post because it will be from either a be kind twat or a TIM, without possession of any level of logic.

The be kind women are the most annoying if they will not shift in planet women. I was one of the be kinds once upon a time until i heard, read and understood.

assuming they are women.

as for TRA’s, and TIMS who pop up, the law and civil society, has started turning and the hysteria is palpable. They come here to vent, so to me whatever.

I am in a cult.

the cult of reality

IwantToRetire · 18/06/2026 20:09

tobee · 18/06/2026 19:07

There’s usually this pattern. Someone posts a piece of news/asks a question/links a story in good faith . A TRA responds early doors and says “blah blah blah plus general load of old bollocks”. GC posters reply to the bait and the original post gets derailed and the original debate is obscured. Job done for the tras. That’s how they get their sad little jollies.

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Exactly. But as I said earlier in this thread there is no obligation on anyone to respond to obvious de-rails.

hholiday · 18/06/2026 20:05

I’ve noticed a lot of them post overnight. Which might account for the lack of coherence

tobee · 18/06/2026 19:07

There’s usually this pattern. Someone posts a piece of news/asks a question/links a story in good faith . A TRA responds early doors and says “blah blah blah plus general load of old bollocks”. GC posters reply to the bait and the original post gets derailed and the original debate is obscured. Job done for the tras. That’s how they get their sad little jollies.

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ByTheRiverside · 18/06/2026 18:46

Maaate · 18/06/2026 18:08

I highly doubt any of the women you are referring to are "cis" 🙄

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It makes a lot more sense if we call the TIM's scisgender.

They think they can change their gender with a pair of scissors.

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Maaate · 18/06/2026 18:08

Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

I highly doubt any of the women you are referring to are "cis" 🙄

Soontobesleeping · 18/06/2026 17:56

another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists'

Hands up if you are a woman on this thread who identifies fully with regressive, oppressive sex stereotypes of the kind misogynistic men fantasise about….

Anyone?

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/06/2026 17:33

Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

As suggested upthread, I direct you to Reddit where you can dunk on women to your heart's content. Knock yourself out.

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ByTheRiverside · 18/06/2026 17:30

Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

Sorry that I care about women retaining the ability to speak about things affecting our rights. Next time I'll shut up and let the trans speak on my behalf.

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Seethlaw · 18/06/2026 17:28

Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

Where did you see a question about trans people?? This thread is about TRAs, a lot of whom are not trans, and whose trans or not-trans status isn't discussed anyway.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 18/06/2026 17:22

Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

Be accurate. It’s ’pretend To ask a question about TRAs’, actually.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 18/06/2026 17:22

Namechangee11 · 18/06/2026 17:10

Oh look, another 'pretending to ask a question' thread about Trans people which is really just another thread where the cis gendered 'sex realists' get to dunk on trans people again.... Ffs. Seriously the amount of threads on this subject is just crazy.

Seriously! And on the “Feminism: Sex and gender discussions” board no less!

/s

PrizedPickledPopcorn · 18/06/2026 17:21

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/06/2026 14:11

It's here. You don't have to log in to FB to read it - you can read it down the right-hand side of the page

https://www.facebook.com/daniellismore/photos/jk-rowling-wants-you-to-think-she-is-being-silenced-that-she-is-the-lone-voice-o/1573854110777988/

Oh, it’s him! Such a shame as I like him other than this.
No one in the comments is saying about Beira’s Place, sadly. I can’t unfortunately. I have to go stealth 🥷

TheThirteenthFairy · 18/06/2026 17:18

GreyskySexRealistsky · 18/06/2026 14:11

It's here. You don't have to log in to FB to read it - you can read it down the right-hand side of the page

https://www.facebook.com/daniellismore/photos/jk-rowling-wants-you-to-think-she-is-being-silenced-that-she-is-the-lone-voice-o/1573854110777988/

Thanks for the link - who could have imagined that such a po-faced bloke could provide a laugh a minute?