Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

And how do Muslim men view Muslim girls? Not fair game because they're wearing black clothes that cover any skin / hair which would encourage them to be raped by helpless men?

Have you not noticed the complete steamrollering of women’s reproductive rights in the US, carried out by rich white men and in the name of Christianity? The subjugation of women’s rights by all types of extremists needs to be tackled as a whole.

If UK culture and dominant religions didn't treat women as second class citizens, we wouldn't have UK born and bred rapists.

I agree; I think this needs to be moved to General or somewhere as another poster mentioned too.

It is being missed in its current spot I think.

Donors include Elon Musk and ‘Tommy Robinson’.

Writing a politically charged foreword to what professes to be an independent report immediately calls into question his, and its, integrity. How disgusting to use what these people went through for political gain and to stir up racial tension.

Not much integrity visible here.

Its scary isn't it.

Nobody is dismissing, but it's not relevant.

If we have English rapists, then we have to deal with them and lock them up.

But lets not make a habit of importing a religion where women are second class citizens.

Get it now?

@Plimfoot This shit didn't just start two years ago it's been a neglected issue for years .
Farage &co are not the answer though.
They just tell people what they want to hear.

Dismissing those victims because?

In your opinion. I would say we are.

White men see white girls as fair game.

I truly struggle with this viewpoint. Is it so hard to be able to read the stories of victims, think about them, and separate them from the opinions and angles of the report’s author(s)? This skill is taught in school, or at least was at mine!

A testimony is a testimony. It is not hard to take the facts stated and come to your own conclusions. Unless you are implying the actual stories of the victims are lies? I suppose that’s what happened to these girls for decades, so it seems feasible you may do the same.

You are really trying to use Khans London as an example of successful integration? 🤣🤣

We are not at war. HTH

Incapable? Never visit Southern Spain. Or Turkey. Or look at London's mayor. Or the solicitor in the CPS who first prosecuted these gangs under starmer. Or athletes like Mo Farah. Or...

Mass systematic rape IS a war crime. How else would you describe it? These girls were targeted due to their race and religion.

It’s not a professional report. Baroness Jay’s report was a professional report. If you look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grooming_gangs_scandal

you will see lots of high quality inquiries with shocking evidence.

All the facts are known, with relatively little outrage at the time and coverage mostly in broadsheets and on the BBC. There was even a drama made about it on the BBC - Three Girls - after extensive coverage on news programmes.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08rgd5n

But following that there has been relatively little actual action on the boring, hard but necessary stuff fuelling all this - eg children’s homes being constructed in large cities rather than on cheaper land far from children’s support networks.

This is the nub of it. If you wish to actually keep children safer from those who would seek to exploit them, you need to move to stage 2, which is changing things. It’s important to note (and hard, given how awful this abuse has been) that internationally we are seen as a beacon of good practice in child safeguarding. We’re much better at it than most countries. A side-effect of that success is it’s all out in the open. If you don’t turn over the rock, you don’t see all the earwigs running for cover. But even our better-than-most effort is still beyond crap. Until recently, everyone ignored this (pre Esther Ranzten) and it was swept under the rug.

This isn’t to be complacent. it’s actually the reverse. There is more abuse than we see in these reports, which concentrate on one element of child sexually abuse - where it intersects with Pakistani-diaspora cultural views on the sexual availability of white working class girls - but there are many, many more ways men justify raping kids. And the countries which claim not to have a problem? They’re just not looking.

And the 'whataboutery' with the church. I am Catholic. Its fucking disgusting what happened in the church. Again itbwas a systemic cover up, it was exposed and got the exposure it needed and deserved. Everyone of those priests and nuns will rot in hell for what they did and the Church has never been allowed to forget, rightly so.

In EVERY case of systemic child abuse everyone involved must be brought to justice. At every opportunity possible.

This is not happening in the Rape Gang enquiries. No social workers, no police officers. These girls and their families begged for help. BEGGED. And were told they would be arrested for Racial Aggravation if they continued to draw attention to what was happening!

The police took girls back to their abusers!!

The police reports have multiple instances of blaming 12/13 years old for being sexually promiscuous and 'prone to handing out sexual favours'
To 40 years old men!!

And it was more important to the police that 'racial tension' wasn't raised rather than helping those poor little girls.

This is a direct consequence of 'be kind'.

We had it with the Trans debatacle. We were kind and it bit us on the fucking arse.

And its the same situation with Islam. We tried to be kind. We tried to be accommodating. To be understanding of other cultures. And this is where we are now. At a point where girls are being raped, stabbed in the neck, intimidated and innocent young men who have been stabbed are arrested as a point of priority over life saving treatment because they might have said a racist word.

And I can tell you right now, that if any white woman on here supporting Islam when to an Islamic country and tried to push Western ideals onto anyone there you would last 10 mins before being thrown in jail or worse.

Diversity only works one way and it is destroying our country and our freedoms.

One of the parts I was most incensed by (if its possible to say that) was the police dismissing primary aged girls who had been raped, as 'child prostitutes'. There is no such thing. Giving kids money after you rape them doesn't somehow make it ok and that needs to be fully accepted and understood by the police.

You'd not be surprised to discover that some of these girls were given criminal convictions for prostitution....rather than acknowledging the trafficking and rape.

Yes, the whole thing is a total racket, which these clan based grooming gangs have used to their advantage.

Sadly yes... this is entirely why these men were allowed to perpetuate these crimes.
Because nobody is allowed to criticise Islam or any other race without the usual cry of racist/fascist/far right.