Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

Ah ok - but why aren't they covering Lowe's report?

They ought to do so, especially now the by election is behind us.

I think she meant their coverage of grooming gangs rather than Lowe’s report, but that’s been woeful.

I haven't seen them covering it. Can't have been very prominent if they did.

Rupert Lowe was interviewed in Makerfield last night waiting for the count, which I caught the tail end of, he challenged Laura Kuenssenberg (sp?) that the BBC hadn’t reported on it or the issue, and she said they had covered it adequately which is clearly bollocks.

I don't know if this has been linked to already.

RCEW comments on Rape Gang Inquiry Report | Rape Crisis England & Wales share.google/sBDO1wmD5HWVrmNhD
Restore Britain’s report Rape Gang Inquiry Report launched on Tuesday (16th June 2026) highlights institutional failures to meaningfully respond to and support survivors of group-based rape and sexual abuse. This report states that the “root cause” of this particular form of sexual violence and abuse is “immigration”. The report is focused on Pakistani Muslim men’s group-based offending. cont......

I stiil haven't seen any main stream reporting

And silence still from some quarters.

It’s a ridiculous argument isn’t it.

Absolutely. Imagine the uproar if, in response to the inquiry into abuse by Catholic priests, someone on MN wrote something like 'A report which ignores or downplays the existence of Muslim rapists isn't really worth bothering with'.

Why can't we acknowledge we are a Christian country. There are many Islamic countries in the world. Some of them are persecuting Christians right now.

No there were not.

I think it would come across as racist if, in response to discussions about abuses within the Catholic church, posters were saying "what about Muslims?"

Almost like a deflection ... hmmm.

The report was about a specific issue. Pakistani rape and trafficking gangs. Why would it be expected to include other groups of rapists in this report?
I don't disagree that there should be inquiries into all trafficking/ domestic violence/ rape/ but it isn't useful to try and include every single group in one inquiry and report.
The reason this needed another inquiry was because of the silencing of whistleblowers and victims and the failure to heed the findings of previous inquiries.

Did you actually grasp the point being made? Whataboutery is silly and deflects from the real issues. This is a report with a narrow focus, rightly or wrongly. Putting aside the political element. Sometimes, due to resources or other factors, investigations need to be precise in their scope and parameters. This particular criminal phenomenon has been dismissed, handwaved away and swept under the carpet for decades. That time is up.

I can only talk about my experience anecdotally. But if comments and commentary from prominent journalists attempted to zoom out and broaden the conversation then they are wrong too.

I don't know about here, but I used to read politics dot ie, and that forum has lots of folk saying "whatabout" whenever an investigation into Catholic clergy is discussed.

You complained about people using whataboutisms, then used a whataboutism.

Well...yes. Obviously. That was the entire point.

Re Catholic priests, there was, and still is, loads of people saying whatabout the Anglicans, whatabout the local authority homes ?

Huh, weird, because my understanding is that Anglicans are also Christians. Were/are threads on MN full of people endlessly deflecting to other religions and going 'buh buh buh butwhaddabout Muslims, butwhaddabout Hindus?'

I think you missed that the section in quote marks is not what the poster actually thinks, but an example of what they are speaking against.

ETA - please note the 'I can't remember ever seeing things like' before the quote.

You complained about people using whataboutisms, then used a whataboutism.

Re Catholic priests, there was, and still is, loads of people saying whatabout the Anglicans, whatabout the local authority homes ?

I also completely agree with @Everanewbie. The 'oh but what about...?' people drive me up the wall. It's like walking into an office of the Cats Protection League and demanding to know why they hate dogs. I can't imagine that they did the same during the investigation of sexual abuse by Catholic priests, and I can't remember ever seeing things like 'Why are you only focusing on Catholics? Most Catholics are good peaceful people and you're obviously just Catholicphobic. What about Muslim imams who hurt children? Don't their victims matter? Why aren't you talking about them? Why are you sowing division and hatred and bigotry? Men of all categories commit rape and abuse, and your report doesn't count unless you talk about all victims of abuse, and you got the wrong person to write it so I'm going to ignore it anyway'.

Totally agree.

In what way does the report play down white rapists? Research focussing on motor neurone disease doesn't mean that no one gives a shit about breast cancer, its just on that specific enquiry, it is beyond its scope.

I really struggle to understand this perspective. These comments strike me as "all lives matter"-ing a specific phenomena. As I've said upthread, when investigating abuses in the Catholic church, I really don't remember anyone being so eager to point out the crimes in other communities to justify zooming out and broadening scope.

Comfortingly though, these kind of perspectives are becoming less and less frequent and more easily slapped down as torch of truth continues to illuminate the abuses by these Pakistani men, the justification and cooperation of their families, and the cover ups and unwillingness to act from the authorities.

There is a difference between a 90-95% ethnic-British country with a mix of a bunch of different diverse countries represented, and a 50% ethnic-British people where the remainder is split into a couple of large ethnic voting blocs who vote primarily in their ethnic interest and live in parallel societies.

I don't know what a slow enough pace of demographic change is needed so that the original host culture can be preserved, but I think it's something measured in centuries and the current rate is much too much.

Does addressing it require mass roundups of brown people? I don't think so, but it does require an acknowledgement that there is a specific native culture worth preserving in this country which is not just the Official British Values of tolerance, diversity etc. That's not a culture, that's how to manage multiple cultures.

I think people often use the term Christian to describe this culture. It certainly is heavily influenced by Christianity, and there is a rich body of Christian-influenced work which requires a deep understanding of Christianity to engage with and which we would be intellectually poorer to discard as our cultural inheritance.

With that said a lot of it is not specifically religiously Christian but is things like the western European marriage pattern - recognisably a cultural factor which distinguishes us from, say, Middle Easterners, but people just lump it in under "Christian" for lack of a better term.

Yes I remember that horrific case.

CaesarAugusta · 17/06/2026 08:47
Unfortunately it was utterly predictable before the report came out that it would focus on immigration issues. A report which ignores or downplays the existence of white rapists isn't really worth bothering with.
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I quite agree.

That would repeat the sins of our fathers.

They created disproportionate wealth and importance for our country through empire. They imposed White Christian bedrock values on countries that had no such color or history. If the locals disagreed, our forefathers beat them, raped them, imprisoned them, starved them and slaughtered them.

We are no longer a Christian country - less than 10% of the population considers themselves practicing Christians. And while we are a majority white country, we are not an only white country.

Having said that, there is an undeniable cultural element among the men who raped those young girls and women. It includes class, education level, family ties, local cultural group, the larger context of an immigrant group as well as their faith.

We should be able to say that without calling for Britain to be white and Christian.

Wow . What a disgusting thing to say