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Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

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Yddraigoldragon · 16/06/2026 20:50

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

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Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:43

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 09:56

And how do Muslim men view Muslim girls? Not fair game because they're wearing black clothes that cover any skin / hair which would encourage them to be raped by helpless men?

@PollyNomial Did you answer this question? I can't find it.

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:43

Summerhillsquare · 17/06/2026 10:36

These are private companies rather than democratic parties, so 'policies' are whatever the paid for leader and his funders say on any given day. But I believe their social media is public, you can see their attitudes to women there. And - shocker - brown and black people, who they want to deport, along with other settled citizens - are women too! They want to deport women and children.

Restore is a registered political party.
I have read the social media- also the website- I cannot see anything on there which alarms me as a white English woman.

jacksonlamb · 17/06/2026 10:43

This is horrific. Thank you for sharing. Have the national media picked up on this at all?

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 10:42

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

The death penalty is a non starter for a good reason.

PollyNomial · 17/06/2026 10:42

Comeondoreen · 17/06/2026 10:25

Neither the Catholic Church or the Church of England, as I understand, encourage their followers to view the Bible or the actions of their prophet as totally and completely infallible, and immune from criticism.

This is not reliably true of Islam - I know, because I grew up Muslim. I also came to this country as a very young child fleeing persecution, so I know all about Islamophobia too (Perhaps it is also why I feel so strongly about your country which my family found to be a safe haven with a uniquely generous and tolerant culture that I will forever be grateful for). Dismissing the acknowledgment these issues within Islam as Islamophobia is so foolish. It also does huge disservice to the Muslim girls and women who suffer under Islam - perhaps it is more politically “correct” to care about us than it is white working class girls?

Besides, the link between the christian institutions and their roles in child abuse is widely acknowledged and spoken about. As it should be!

RE your other comment, if you won’t read this report then what other sources do you suggest we look at for the experiences of these victims? Which ones have you read? Which of the victims who speaks out publicly do you follow or support? Genuine question.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

For example, the Pope speaks the word of God and the Bible (any translation) is unequivocal about following Jesus and his teachings, so I'm not sure it's that different in the grand scheme of things.

What I am looking for in a report on any failure such as this is:
A recognition of what happened to the victims (I think the report is successful here)
An examination, agency by agency, of what went wrong and why from the perspectives of victims and those working within them and what may prevent the failings from being repeated (largely absent)
A set of recommendations that distils all the evidence (those offered may be flawed and incomplete because the second part is lacking)

Lastly, to deliver successful lasting change and prevent as many future victims as possible, a cross party or politically independent panel/authorship is best. This report doesn't have that and, even within his own part of the political spectrum, RL is divisive as the repeated spats between himself and Reform demonstrate.

Onmytod24 · 17/06/2026 10:41

Emotive language! calling for the death penalty! this isn’t a report . just a load of rubbish

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:40

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IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 17/06/2026 10:37

PollyNomial · 17/06/2026 09:50

Dismissing those victims because?

Every comment you have made has been to dismiss these victims.

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 10:36

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There's no denying it's a horrific state of affairs the care system,the police,social work failed these girls.
A crime is a crime regardless of where you're from or religion.

LalalaWoo · 17/06/2026 10:36

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:31

Can you show me where Lowe/ Restore have policies which harm women/girls?

I’m actually very interested in this as have heard a few people say it however in all of my research haven’t managed to find anything. I’m increasingly liking him so would like to educate myself if there is something I don’t know about.

RedTagAlan · 17/06/2026 10:36

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:18

There are an awful lot of claims being made in this report with no evidence presented. I mean beyond what the victims said.

Yes. Not being believed as a victim is a massive problem, wouldn't you say?

If you quote me, is it not polite to tag me ?

Except I did not say to not believe the victim did I. I said claims beyond what the victims said.

For example, page 107 has a list of other Muslim men convicted who are not of Pakistani origin. No references to any records or news reports. Just a footnote pointing to a US rightwing blogger for something he wrote in 2016.

For such a claim, it would be really easy to footnote evidence that the claim is true.

Summerhillsquare · 17/06/2026 10:36

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:31

Can you show me where Lowe/ Restore have policies which harm women/girls?

These are private companies rather than democratic parties, so 'policies' are whatever the paid for leader and his funders say on any given day. But I believe their social media is public, you can see their attitudes to women there. And - shocker - brown and black people, who they want to deport, along with other settled citizens - are women too! They want to deport women and children.

Wishing14 · 17/06/2026 10:35

When Sammy said that - instant rebuttal, “we have been talking about race all morning”…. No apologies, no discussion, deny, deflect…. Don’t listen to victims. Maybe there was no ‘evidence’ of it and now they listened to the call they realise she wasn’t lying! Makes my blood boil

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:34

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Well said @ainsleysanob. The response of @CaesarAugusta says it all about what those poor girls raped and groomed for years by hundreds of Pakistani / British Pakistani men across the UK, were and are still, dealing with

CaesarAugusta · Today 08:47
Unfortunately it was utterly predictable before the report came out that it would focus on immigration issues. A report which ignores or downplays the existence of white rapists isn't really worth bothering with.

ainsleysanob · Today 10:25
You are an utter disgrace and I pray that you never come into contact with my friends in Rotherham who were raped by THOUSANDS of Pakistanis, anally, orally and vaginally. Beaten, tortured, trafficked. Their siblings and family members threatened. Because they were white. And then ignored, blamed, arrested and delivered back to their abusers by people just like you.

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 10:33

GreyskySexRealistsky · 17/06/2026 10:32

There are an awful lot of claims being made in this report with no evidence presented. I mean beyond what the victims said.

Did I honestly just read that? I don't know what to say. Owen Jones vibes.

Yes why would anyone underplay what the victims said.

Plimfoot · 17/06/2026 10:33

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I'm afraid for your "thousands" of "Pakistanis" (mostly British) there are hundreds of thousands of white/European/British/other rapists in the UK. The problem is men. Not a particular race or colour of men, just men. And while you target particular races (which does make you a racist by the way) you let the wider problem slide out of view.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 17/06/2026 10:32

There are an awful lot of claims being made in this report with no evidence presented. I mean beyond what the victims said.

Did I honestly just read that? I don't know what to say. Owen Jones vibes.

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:31

Happyjoe · 17/06/2026 10:29

Yes. I find it hard to see why people who say that they are concerned about women and children and immigrants would then support parties who wish to harm even more women and children on a much wider scale.

None of it is right, but why vote to make it even worse?

Can you show me where Lowe/ Restore have policies which harm women/girls?

mrshoho · 17/06/2026 10:30

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 10:25

That was just plain wrong and it gives certain quarters more ammunition.

What do you mean by ammunition? Telling people the truth about how victims are continuing to be silenced? How we are still expected not to speak of the muslim Pakistani men who commit such disgusting child abuse?

peachescariad · 17/06/2026 10:30

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 10:16

Not all Muslims are terrorists.

However... all terrorist atrocities seem to be perpetrated by.... guess who?

Islam's ideology agrees to beheading, child marriage, polygamy, rape, paedophilia, paganism, burning people alive, FGM, slavery, honour killings, oppression of women & girls, death to infidels and jihadi's.......the top 20 prominent global terrorist groups are all muslim......not much room for peace is there.....

Happyjoe · 17/06/2026 10:29

Summerhillsquare · 17/06/2026 10:25

You aren’t serious!?!?

The far right are revolting opportunists and will have you back in the kitchen/abusive marriage before you can say "stop the boats" - they are NOT our friends.

Yes. I find it hard to see why people who say that they are concerned about women and children and immigrants would then support parties who wish to harm even more women and children on a much wider scale.

None of it is right, but why vote to make it even worse?

Comeondoreen · 17/06/2026 10:28

@PollyNomial apologies I have mixed your username re “your other comment” with someone else and cannot find the other pp now. Ignore that bit!

happydappy2 · 17/06/2026 10:28

It is clear the gov't are terrified of civil unrest....they would rather hush up this scandal than confront the truth, which is that immigration has harmed white British girls more than is fathomable. Close inter family marriages made the crimes easier to conceal...coupled with peoples fear of being called racist. It's a tragedy

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 10:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 10:23

Sammy Woodhouse went on Good Morning Britain yesterday to talk about the gangs, and before she went on a producer instructed her not to mention race/culture. She called this out live on air with Ed Balls and Susannah Reid and ITV have now apologised to her.

Omg - unbelievable!!! Amazing she called it out live on air well done Sammy. She's used to this now.