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Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

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Yddraigoldragon · 16/06/2026 20:50

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

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Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 11:43

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:40

Yes. But Rupert Lowe..

What about him?

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:43

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 11:39

What village councillors can order is horrific

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-40731035

Horrific.

But the white men

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 11:41

I made exactly that point upthread @Everanewbie

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 11:41

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 11:31

The death penalty is never going to be reintroduced in the UK.
So put away your pitchfork and burning torch.

If there were more pitchforks and burning torches we wouldn't be in this mess..

Everanewbie · 17/06/2026 11:40

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 11:37

The “subset of men” we are talking about are the girls’ rapists and traffickers, not just some incidental men. That’s why their common patterns and features are relevant. This isn’t difficult.

Should the enquiry into the abuse within the Catholic Church be broadened to "all men"?

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:40

blackpooolrock · 17/06/2026 11:34

The report isn't just about rape - young girls were also tortured, murdered, trafficked, drug abuse, degradation, bestiality to name but a few things.

No 12yr old should go through any of that.

Yes. But Rupert Lowe..

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ilovebrie8 · 17/06/2026 11:39

blackpooolrock · 17/06/2026 11:34

The report isn't just about rape - young girls were also tortured, murdered, trafficked, drug abuse, degradation, bestiality to name but a few things.

No 12yr old should go through any of that.

It is unfathomable what was done to these children.

The worst possible things it wasn't just rape. I feel ill having read some of it, if I was a parent of one of these youngsters I'd be incandescent with rage.

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 11:39

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:36

The death penalty does exist in Pakistan however. A group of local Pakistani rapists were sentenced to death just the other day for the gang rape of a French tourist (in front of her young children) in Lahore. No wonder the grooming paedos live here.

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/pakistan-french-tourist-gangrape-death-sentence-shadqat-abid-b2989407.html

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What village councillors can order is horrific

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-40731035

A Pakistani villager points to a house where a teenaged girl was raped in the neighbourhood of Raja Ram in Muzaffarabad

Pakistan village council orders 'revenge rape' of girl

A teenager in Multan is raped by order of a village council after her brother was accused of rape.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-40731035

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:38

Rosecoffeecup · 17/06/2026 11:36

Why do you care what I think about it? Do you need someone to read it to you and summarise?

Please do. Thanks.

Plimfoot · 17/06/2026 11:38

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Loopylalalou · 17/06/2026 11:37

mrshoho · 17/06/2026 09:26

Where on earth did I say I was blaming the victims? Have you read the victims account? It is a fact that in many many cases the victims had unstable home life or were in local authority care. This is a factor in how these men then groomed the children offering gifts and attention. Let me reiterate I place no blame whatsoever on any one of these victims. It is the perpetrators and the authorities who are to blame.

My apologies - but maybe it would have been preferable to express that so eloquently in your first post.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 11:37

godlikeAI · 17/06/2026 11:34

That’s not what I said. Their suffering is, however, being used for
political reasons. And I refer you to my other reply, which is - please read their testimonies and pay attention to the alcoholism, assault and rape in their own families. Where is the enquiry into those (presumably white) men?

My point is, this is a male problem and his “report” is skewed towards a sub set of men, quite deliberately, to whip up hate, which serves him. He literally starts the report talking about racism and immigration - this guy doesn’t give a toss for any girls. He would use whatever suits him for his own ends

The “subset of men” we are talking about are the girls’ rapists and traffickers, not just some incidental men. That’s why their common patterns and features are relevant. This isn’t difficult.

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:36

TheContoursALittleMisunderstandingNsoul · 17/06/2026 11:31

The death penalty is never going to be reintroduced in the UK.
So put away your pitchfork and burning torch.

The death penalty does exist in Pakistan however. A group of local Pakistani rapists were sentenced to death just the other day for the gang rape of a French tourist (in front of her young children) in Lahore. No wonder the grooming paedos live here.

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/pakistan-french-tourist-gangrape-death-sentence-shadqat-abid-b2989407.html

Pakistan court confirms death penalty for men who raped French tourist

South Asian country enacted new anti-rape law in wake of 2020 incident

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/south-asia/pakistan-french-tourist-gangrape-death-sentence-shadqat-abid-b2989407.html

Rosecoffeecup · 17/06/2026 11:36

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:33

So, @rosecoffeecup what do you think about the victim testimonies content? Please do explain your thoughts on That aspect of the report, rather than its' author or its' label.

Why do you care what I think about it? Do you need someone to read it to you and summarise?

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 11:36

blackpooolrock · 17/06/2026 11:34

The report isn't just about rape - young girls were also tortured, murdered, trafficked, drug abuse, degradation, bestiality to name but a few things.

No 12yr old should go through any of that.

Deflection and what about from below in other posts just don’t work. The glaring uncomfortable truth from victims should be heard.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 11:35

SwirlyGates · 17/06/2026 11:34

I haven't read the report. Rupert Lowe may well have an agenda here, and I certainly have no wish to debate the death penalty, or deport people who have British citizenship.

However, I do get the impression that he believes what he says, unlike Starmer (who believes in nothing), Farage (who is out for what he can get) and Polanski (who claims to believe in any old tripe as long as it is to his advantage), and Ed Davey (who is trying to be relevant). (Kemi also believes what she says, but maybe due to so many years of Tory government is losing out to the other right-wing parties.)

And regardless of any other agenda or policies Lowe may have, I am grateful to him for his relentless pursuit of the rape gangs, when other parties have ignored or minimised them.

That’s my position too.

SwirlyGates · 17/06/2026 11:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 10:01

I imagine Lowe cares about these girls and what they went through as least as much, if not more, than many right thinking progressive types. And I mean that.

I haven't read the report. Rupert Lowe may well have an agenda here, and I certainly have no wish to debate the death penalty, or deport people who have British citizenship.

However, I do get the impression that he believes what he says, unlike Starmer (who believes in nothing), Farage (who is out for what he can get) and Polanski (who claims to believe in any old tripe as long as it is to his advantage), and Ed Davey (who is trying to be relevant). (Kemi also believes what she says, but maybe due to so many years of Tory government is losing out to the other right-wing parties.)

And regardless of any other agenda or policies Lowe may have, I am grateful to him for his relentless pursuit of the rape gangs, when other parties have ignored or minimised them.

godlikeAI · 17/06/2026 11:34

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 11:29

Absolutely.
All these girls went and got raped for political agenda.
How very dare they whip up hatred.

That’s not what I said. Their suffering is, however, being used for
political reasons. And I refer you to my other reply, which is - please read their testimonies and pay attention to the alcoholism, assault and rape in their own families. Where is the enquiry into those (presumably white) men?

My point is, this is a male problem and his “report” is skewed towards a sub set of men, quite deliberately, to whip up hate, which serves him. He literally starts the report talking about racism and immigration - this guy doesn’t give a toss for any girls. He would use whatever suits him for his own ends

Grammarnut · 17/06/2026 11:34

FernFaery · 16/06/2026 21:34

You don’t think he just passionately believes in what he says?

He should still be objective.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 11:34

Because many of the survivors whose testimony features in this inquiry have walked away from the government one already, because it promises to be a bit shit.

blackpooolrock · 17/06/2026 11:34

The report isn't just about rape - young girls were also tortured, murdered, trafficked, drug abuse, degradation, bestiality to name but a few things.

No 12yr old should go through any of that.

Northermcharn · 17/06/2026 11:33

Rosecoffeecup · 17/06/2026 11:23

Rupert Lowe is a self serving charlatan and a grifter. He knows full well that the media and government won't comment on a report that has no legal basis, and labelling it an Inquiry is purely to mislead people into thinking it is a statutory inquiry when it is anything but

So, @rosecoffeecup what do you think about the victim testimonies content? Please do explain your thoughts on That aspect of the report, rather than its' author or its' label.

Rosecoffeecup · 17/06/2026 11:32

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2026 11:30

As I mentioned in the post you are quoting, not sure why you think you’re informing me of anything?

What further pressure do you think is going to be exerted on something that is already happening?

SadTimesInFife · 17/06/2026 11:31

Does Sharia law allow the cutting off of penises if their owners used them to rape?

EasternStandard · 17/06/2026 11:31

Paganpentacle · 17/06/2026 11:29

Absolutely.
All these girls went and got raped for political agenda.
How very dare they whip up hatred.

It’s part of the problem and cover up. Some would prefer victims to stay silent because speaking out uncovers harsh truth.