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Former teacher guilty of sexually abusing and murdering baby boy he wanted to adopt - CPS

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IwantToRetire · 15/06/2026 17:52

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A former teacher has been found guilty of sexually abusing and murdering a baby boy that he planned to adopt.

Jamie Varley, 37, was convicted at Preston Crown Court of murder, child cruelty, sexual offences and indecent images relating to 13-month-old Preston Davey.

John McGowan-Fazakerley, 32, was convicted of allowing the death of a child, child cruelty and sexual assault.

Varley was in the process of adopting baby Preston (also known as Elijah) with his partner McGowan-Fazakerley. Just four months after being placed with the couple, Preston was taken to Blackpool Victoria Hospital unconscious and in cardiac arrest. Sadly, Preston could not be saved.

Varley tried falsely claiming that Preston had accidentally drowned in a bath, but prosecutors were able to prove that his injuries were consistent with his airways being obstructed.

The evidence presented by the prosecution proved that in the final months of Preston’s life, he was routinely ill-treated, sexually abused and physically assaulted – suffering more than 40 separate injuries.

CPS statement continues at https://www.cps.gov.uk/north-west/news/former-teacher-guilty-sexually-abusing-and-murdering-baby-boy-he-wanted-adopt

More from a BBC report - also distressing:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyp77l79e9o

I thought there was a thread about this, but cant find one. But sorry if a duplicate.

I really only wanted to post out of respect for this poor baby and the horror of his short life.

RIP Flowers

Baby with curly light brown hair sitting in high chair. He has his finger in his mouth. He is wearing a baby grow with an elephant on it.

How adoptive parents' lies unravelled to reveal 'reign of terror'

Preston Davey died in hospital in July 2023 after months of sexual and physical abuse at the hands.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyp77l79e9o

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WrongKindOfFeminist · 04/08/2026 18:49

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19657136/

'Data were collected from all 17 Dutch child protective services (CPS) agencies on 13,538 cases of certified child maltreatment in 2005. Family composition of the maltreated children was compared to a large national representative sample of the Netherlands Kinship Panel Study (NKPS). Larger families, one-parent families, and families with a stepparent showed elevated risks for child maltreatment. Adoptive families, however, showed significantly less child maltreatment than expected. '

The trouble is that, as the NSPCC details, so much abuse is unreported, for various reasons. It's hard to know how accurate stats actually are.

Elevated risk of child maltreatment in families with stepparents but not with adoptive parents - PubMed

Does child maltreatment occur more often in adoptive and stepfamilies than in biological families? Data were collected from all 17 Dutch child protective services (CPS) agencies on 13,538 cases of certified child maltreatment in 2005. Family compositio...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19657136/

Netcurtainnelly · 04/08/2026 18:08

So, looking at it through the lens of household stability: children in intact, married two-parent biological families face the lowest statistical risk, while households involving family transition, separation, and non-biological live-in partners see a sharp increase in those risk factors.

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 18:05

Netcurtainnelly · 04/08/2026 18:00

Nope it's nearly always a step parent or mum's boyfriend/partner.

These are not the stats that you can find online.

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Netcurtainnelly · 04/08/2026 18:00

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 17:50

Well sadly this isn't the case because as quoted up thread the majority of abuse of children is by the biological father.

What does seem to be an ongoing issue is the number of women, and not the tabloid archetype of feckless young mother, who seem to accept that men being violent is "normal".

So both for those in a casual relationship and those in an ongoing one, seem to or are unable to end their relationship with a man if he is violent.

Nope it's nearly always a step parent or mum's boyfriend/partner.

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 17:50

Netcurtainnelly · 04/08/2026 13:48

What this really boils down to is shagging around and having babies and then moving into someone else. Where is the stability.

A baby, a tiddler can't even expect their natural parents to be together anymore

You rarely see this happening where a mum and dad are married to each other.

Most of these cases involve a young woman whose had a baby with someone, they've lasted 5 mins, sometimes not even that, and then she's moved into someone else. She's introduced them to her babies, Often letting someone she hardly knows move in . Then the problem starts, she either doesn't do anything about it or she joins in and doesn't protect the child . She's more than likely inadequate herself, often drink and drug taking are involved.

Feckin Scum. Isn't this the truth?
Until we crack all this it will keep happening Society and Morals have gone in the dustbin.
These sorts of people wouldn't even understand how people used to meet, get married, then plan for children etc and stay together.

Well sadly this isn't the case because as quoted up thread the majority of abuse of children is by the biological father.

What does seem to be an ongoing issue is the number of women, and not the tabloid archetype of feckless young mother, who seem to accept that men being violent is "normal".

So both for those in a casual relationship and those in an ongoing one, seem to or are unable to end their relationship with a man if he is violent.

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Netcurtainnelly · 04/08/2026 13:48

What this really boils down to is shagging around and having babies and then moving into someone else. Where is the stability.

A baby, a tiddler can't even expect their natural parents to be together anymore

You rarely see this happening where a mum and dad are married to each other.

Most of these cases involve a young woman whose had a baby with someone, they've lasted 5 mins, sometimes not even that, and then she's moved into someone else. She's introduced them to her babies, Often letting someone she hardly knows move in . Then the problem starts, she either doesn't do anything about it or she joins in and doesn't protect the child . She's more than likely inadequate herself, often drink and drug taking are involved.

Feckin Scum. Isn't this the truth?
Until we crack all this it will keep happening Society and Morals have gone in the dustbin.
These sorts of people wouldn't even understand how people used to meet, get married, then plan for children etc and stay together.

Lalgarh · 04/08/2026 11:02

There has been a decline in families cleared for adoption, which predates any new measures after what happened to Preston Davey

https://news.sky.com/story/worrying-decline-in-families-approved-to-adopt-a-child-charity-warns-13569576

SwirlyGates · 04/08/2026 10:44

WrongKindOfFeminist · 04/08/2026 10:41

My god.

18 months! Just how hard is it to find someone and arrest them in that time?

WrongKindOfFeminist · 04/08/2026 10:41

Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 22:46

It was a live warrent for his arrest issued 18 months before her death. I believe
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2083911364033012065?s=20

My god.

Arran2024 · 04/08/2026 10:06

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 01:21

Have just seen statistics for both US and UK and in biological fathers are worse offenders than live in boyfriends. Over 50% in the US and around 46% in the UK.

How utterly depressing.

Not clear if these figures are from those sentenced for the crime or from statistics gather from people who report later in life that they were abused.

Sad

That's interesting. I asked google and it said this https://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&source=android-browser&q=are+unrelated+males+more+dangerous+to+children#lfId=ChxjMe

Before you continue to Google Search

https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&ie=UTF-8&q=are+unrelated+males+more+dangerous+to+children&source=android-browser#lfId=ChxjMe

IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 01:21

Have just seen statistics for both US and UK and in biological fathers are worse offenders than live in boyfriends. Over 50% in the US and around 46% in the UK.

How utterly depressing.

Not clear if these figures are from those sentenced for the crime or from statistics gather from people who report later in life that they were abused.

Sad
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IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 01:13

Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 23:43

Id rather that we had a dv offenders list much like we do for sex offenders and you had to have a Claire law check or some sort of dbs check. Realistically though there isn't the manpower or governmental will to do anything, even when social services are supervising an adoption they cant/wont protect kids, so what hope could we have that theyd protect kids that arent on their radar

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In an ideal world this would be great.

And, not specifically referring to this sad case, we also need to get women to understand that it is the men closest to her, whether through family or relationship who is the greatest threat to her.

Sadly. But not one will talk about this.

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IwantToRetire · 04/08/2026 01:10

BettyBooper · 03/08/2026 23:18

No. This is far sweeping, utterly over-stepping and reactionary.

You don't make rules for everyone due to a small number of people's poor choices. What does moving in mean? What is a stranger in this context?

Can I not have a cousin I've never met before from Australia stay for a couple of months?

Why would you have my choices of who I have in my house so easily given over to the government? I don't need the government (or you) to make my decisions for me.

In principle I completely agree that it is generally unwise for a woman to allow a man she doesn't know to move in with her and her child without more knowledge, but suggesting legislating around it is far too far.

You seem to have jumped in at the deep end.

Nobody has mention the law.

Contributors to the thread are making comments about inviting men to live in a home where there is / are young children.

Over the top histrionics make a discussion a shouting match.

Get a grip.

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Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 23:43

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 23:06

I think based on statistic this is probably the most relevant advice.

Id rather that we had a dv offenders list much like we do for sex offenders and you had to have a Claire law check or some sort of dbs check. Realistically though there isn't the manpower or governmental will to do anything, even when social services are supervising an adoption they cant/wont protect kids, so what hope could we have that theyd protect kids that arent on their radar

BettyBooper · 03/08/2026 23:18

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 23:06

I think based on statistic this is probably the most relevant advice.

No. This is far sweeping, utterly over-stepping and reactionary.

You don't make rules for everyone due to a small number of people's poor choices. What does moving in mean? What is a stranger in this context?

Can I not have a cousin I've never met before from Australia stay for a couple of months?

Why would you have my choices of who I have in my house so easily given over to the government? I don't need the government (or you) to make my decisions for me.

In principle I completely agree that it is generally unwise for a woman to allow a man she doesn't know to move in with her and her child without more knowledge, but suggesting legislating around it is far too far.

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 23:06

BettyBooper · 03/08/2026 23:00

A parent shouldn't be allowed to move an unrelated male stranger into the home.

I understand that you're angry about this poor child. I am too. But this is insane.

I think based on statistic this is probably the most relevant advice.

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BettyBooper · 03/08/2026 23:00

Netcurtainnelly · 03/08/2026 22:39

The mother was abusive at the hospital. More mistakes though, shouldn't have been sent home with her.

Mother was drinking 10 pints of lager a night. Just disgusting. Shouldn't even be in a charge of a child if she's going to do that. Where do they get the money too? I doubt she was working?

When is this going to stop? A parent shouldn't be allowed to move an unrelated male stranger into the home.
Where are the child's rights to be safe?

A parent shouldn't be allowed to move an unrelated male stranger into the home.

I understand that you're angry about this poor child. I am too. But this is insane.

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 22:58

Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 22:46

It was a live warrent for his arrest issued 18 months before her death. I believe
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2083911364033012065?s=20

Angry
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Hoardasurass · 03/08/2026 22:46

lcakethereforeIam · 03/08/2026 22:39

I think I saw a headline that there was an outstanding arrest warrant for the paedophile who murdered that poor child. I don't understand why the Police force that issued it hadn't arrested him. The details I know are upsetting enough, that poor child, I've been avoiding finding out too much.

It was a live warrent for his arrest issued 18 months before her death. I believe
https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2083911364033012065?s=20

Sky News (@SkyNews) on X

Police issued warrant for paedophile's arrest 18 months before he killed partner's toddler https://t.co/tI8Gkf62TN

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/2083911364033012065?s=20

Netcurtainnelly · 03/08/2026 22:41

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 20:58

I am beginning to think men should only be let out under licence and close supervision at all times.

I know the mother colluded, but as far as I understand didn't behave like this until this man moved in.

RIP Isabelle Flowers

That's no excuse. A decent mother wouldn't entertain him. She was just as bad. Scum attract scum.

Netcurtainnelly · 03/08/2026 22:39

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 20:50

That poor baby. And again discharged 10 days before her death by the NHS despite her broken leg.

The mother was abusive at the hospital. More mistakes though, shouldn't have been sent home with her.

Mother was drinking 10 pints of lager a night. Just disgusting. Shouldn't even be in a charge of a child if she's going to do that. Where do they get the money too? I doubt she was working?

When is this going to stop? A parent shouldn't be allowed to move an unrelated male stranger into the home.
Where are the child's rights to be safe?

lcakethereforeIam · 03/08/2026 22:39

I think I saw a headline that there was an outstanding arrest warrant for the paedophile who murdered that poor child. I don't understand why the Police force that issued it hadn't arrested him. The details I know are upsetting enough, that poor child, I've been avoiding finding out too much.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 03/08/2026 21:24

Oh, Isabelle. Flowers

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 20:58

MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 20:50

That poor baby. And again discharged 10 days before her death by the NHS despite her broken leg.

I am beginning to think men should only be let out under licence and close supervision at all times.

I know the mother colluded, but as far as I understand didn't behave like this until this man moved in.

RIP Isabelle Flowers

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 03/08/2026 20:50

IwantToRetire · 03/08/2026 20:46

I am adding this here as I just wanted to acknowledge the short and violent life of Isabelle Welsh, 2 years old.

NB content of article extremely distressing.

Paedophile Harrison Simpson and mother Alexandra Walker jailed for life for murdering two-year-old daughter
https://news.sky.com/story/woman-and-paedophile-boyfriend-jailed-for-life-for-murdering-two-year-old-isabelle-rose-welsh-13568308

That poor baby. And again discharged 10 days before her death by the NHS despite her broken leg.