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Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/06/2026 10:05

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1u1webq/is_anyone_here_actually_going_to_follow_the/

as mentioned in other threads, I really am concerned about compliance. I know it will never be 100% but am concerned about what blatant non compliance may lead to

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TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:59

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/06/2026 13:55

As that person, no it wasn't bullshit.

And indeed your description sounds very like something that does take double the time a wazz at a urinal does just like the study said.

What was useful was to find that your culture (German?) isn't the same as the UK, so your male comparator isn't the same.

As to "explaining", here are a few things you apparently never wear but other women often do include:

Tights
Coats
Scarf
Gloves
A bag that needs to be held out of the way, hung up or somewhere clean to put it
A belt
Trousers that will end up in wet patches when you take them down unless you are holding with one hand
A jumpsuit (that one is a little niche, but very fashionable a couple of years ago)

Do you only pee in your own house or something? 😂

That's a joke BTW. I'm sure you do in reality pee elsewhere. You just didn't think it through properly, and that's ok.

Men can also have on scarves and coats and gloves. They even carry bags :-O I dont take off my scarf to pee. I'm not German. I think this "women need to strip down more" was a reach.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/06/2026 13:57

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:54

I did read it. I just also looked at the peer reviews and what people have said about the study. They have not reached the same conclusions as you?

You know elsewhere, people have commented on how you and another guy in here treat women who disagree with you. They've stated that you and him believe that if a woman disagrees with you, you can essentially treat her like shit and just be the tyoe of.misogynist that men usually are to women. Do you think that is a fair statement? You are cool with women until.they challenge you?

Wonder where that "elsewhere" is? 😂😂

Can't believe women are still having to argue that men have no place in women's changing rooms, women's sport, showers, hospital wards, toilets etc. So bloody tedious.

MagpiePi · 11/06/2026 13:55

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:48

I dont think researchers agree with how you are interpreting the data

These are statistics from UK prisons, not interpreted data. Please can you interpret the data for us or give a link to any credible studies that use this data to show...whatever it is you are trying to prove.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/06/2026 13:55

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 12:40

My fixation on asking what these layers and layers of clothes that women wear that men do not?

I suspect that it was a bullshit reply and now the person concerned cant actually expwlain what they meant because it was, as I said, bullshit.

I'll ask again anyway. What are these many more layers you wear as a woman that men do not wear?

As that person, no it wasn't bullshit.

And indeed your description sounds very like something that does take double the time a wazz at a urinal does just like the study said.

What was useful was to find that your culture (German?) isn't the same as the UK, so your male comparator isn't the same.

As to "explaining", here are a few things you apparently never wear but other women often do include:

Tights
Coats
Scarf
Gloves
A bag that needs to be held out of the way, hung up or somewhere clean to put it
A belt
Trousers that will end up in wet patches when you take them down unless you are holding with one hand
A jumpsuit (that one is a little niche, but very fashionable a couple of years ago)

Do you only pee in your own house or something? 😂

That's a joke BTW. I'm sure you do in reality pee elsewhere. You just didn't think it through properly, and that's ok.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:54

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I did read it. I just also looked at the peer reviews and what people have said about the study. They have not reached the same conclusions as you?

You know elsewhere, people have commented on how you and another guy in here treat women who disagree with you. They've stated that you and him believe that if a woman disagrees with you, you can essentially treat her like shit and just be the tyoe of.misogynist that men usually are to women. Do you think that is a fair statement? You are cool with women until.they challenge you?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:53

Anyway, back to the thread topic: nothng quite says "we are safe, law-abiding people who can totally be trusted to behave around half-dressed women and girls" like an entire Reddit thread discussing how to violate legally-mandated single-sex spaces.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:51

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:45

Side-on, please.

Lol are you serious?

I am telling you now that i am a pregnant woman so if you really feel like my eyebrows and breats havent told you enough (nobody would buy my boobs!) then you arent very good at this at all.

Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules
selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:49

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:44

Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

From your study

Irrelevant. The men keep their male patterns of offending.

British prison data indicates that trans-identified men in jail are more likely to be sex offenders. Even if you are unwilling to extrapolate that to the general populace, they still retain their male patterns of offending and should not be in women's spaces.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:49

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TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:48

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:46

I quoted it earlier. And also UK prison stats.

To summarise. And please, actually read it.

The level of violent crime between males and trans-identified males is just the same. That is what the Swedish population evidence found: male-to-female transitioners did not differ significantly from male controls for criminality, including violent crime. They did not show female-pattern offending. They showed male-pattern offending.

But when you look at sexual crime, it is worse. Sexual offending is already almost entirely male: the Ministry of Justice says men account for 98% of sexual offence sentences.

And yet in England and Wales prison data, trans-identified male prisoners are even more heavily concentrated in sexual offending. Of 245 transgender prisoners recorded as legal gender male, meaning males identifying as women, non-binary or gender-fluid, 151 were convicted of a sexual offence. That is about 62%.

Compare that with the general sentenced prison population, where sexual offences are about 22 to 23% of immediate custodial sentences. So this is not a small difference. It is nearly three times higher.

So the point is clear: trans-identified males do not have female-pattern risk. For violence, they look like males. For sexual offending in prison, they are dramatically overrepresented even compared with an offence type that is already overwhelmingly male.

That is why women and girls are not being irrational when they say sex matters in safeguarding, toilets, changing rooms, prisons and other intimate spaces.

I dont think researchers agree with how you are interpreting the data

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/06/2026 13:47

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:44

Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

From your study

‘In this study, male-to-female individuals had a higher risk for criminal convictions compared to female controls but not compared to male controls. This suggests that the sex reassignment procedure neither increased nor decreased the risk for criminal offending in male-to-females.’ (2011: 6)

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:46

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:45

Side-on, please.

Also from above please.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:46

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:37

More likely than biological male identifying men. Can you cite the research that you are quoting when you say "maybe, definitely not less"?

I quoted it earlier. And also UK prison stats.

To summarise. And please, actually read it.

The level of violent crime between males and trans-identified males is just the same. That is what the Swedish population evidence found: male-to-female transitioners did not differ significantly from male controls for criminality, including violent crime. They did not show female-pattern offending. They showed male-pattern offending.

But when you look at sexual crime, it is worse. Sexual offending is already almost entirely male: the Ministry of Justice says men account for 98% of sexual offence sentences.

And yet in England and Wales prison data, trans-identified male prisoners are even more heavily concentrated in sexual offending. Of 245 transgender prisoners recorded as legal gender male, meaning males identifying as women, non-binary or gender-fluid, 151 were convicted of a sexual offence. That is about 62%.

Compare that with the general sentenced prison population, where sexual offences are about 22 to 23% of immediate custodial sentences. So this is not a small difference. It is nearly three times higher.

So the point is clear: trans-identified males do not have female-pattern risk. For violence, they look like males. For sexual offending in prison, they are dramatically overrepresented even compared with an offence type that is already overwhelmingly male.

That is why women and girls are not being irrational when they say sex matters in safeguarding, toilets, changing rooms, prisons and other intimate spaces.

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:45

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:42

Here you go. Obviously I know i am a woman so it is interesting to see if your abilities are actually real or not.

Side-on, please.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:44

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/06/2026 13:41

Dhejne et al. study.

I’ll even copy and paste a wee bit for you -

‘Drawing on criminal convictions data, the study showed, among other findings, that male-to-female transitioners were likely to retain the same risk of male-pattern criminality both in relation to crime generally, and to violent crime.’

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Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

From your study

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:43

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:40

How weird.

Brow ridges are a very clear indicator of sex. Nothing weird about it.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:42

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:38

I'd need to see the eyebrows.

Here you go. Obviously I know i am a woman so it is interesting to see if your abilities are actually real or not.

Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules
AccidentallyWesAnderson · 11/06/2026 13:41

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:38

Can you cite the research that shows trans women have similar offending rates to men in the general population?

Dhejne et al. study.

I’ll even copy and paste a wee bit for you -

‘Drawing on criminal convictions data, the study showed, among other findings, that male-to-female transitioners were likely to retain the same risk of male-pattern criminality both in relation to crime generally, and to violent crime.’

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:40

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:38

I'd need to see the eyebrows.

How weird.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:40

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:38

I think we are just two dudes cluttering a female forum, so I shall bid you good day sir.

Based on the fact that I disagree with the white female majority? Can you break down and explain exactly how women behave so I know how you identify them?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:38

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:31

Anyone else seeing a picture of a white, possibly dude or is it just me?

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I'd need to see the eyebrows.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:38

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:37

Never play feminism with white men.

I think we are just two dudes cluttering a female forum, so I shall bid you good day sir.

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TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:38

GrimDamnFanjo · 11/06/2026 13:36

Yes. They are men. Men are more likely to be violent offenders HTH.

Can you cite the research that shows trans women have similar offending rates to men in the general population?

Alucard55 · 11/06/2026 13:38

KG74 · 10/06/2026 10:08

The guidance is pretty much null and void by the lack of a way to prove sex bit. Honestly, unless they brought in pants inspections, same sex toilets and changing rooms can't realistically be policed anyway. This was a question a lot of us have asked time and time again - okay, you want single-sex spaces...how do you prove what sex people are? Answer there came none, and so this is the situation we now have.

It says a lot that we can't just expect men to respect both the law and privacy of women and girls.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:37

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:36

Never play chess with a pigeon. Apologies everyone for the notifications around the last 10 posts....

Never play feminism with white men.