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Dozens of men discuss ignoring single sex space rules

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/06/2026 10:05

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1u1webq/is_anyone_here_actually_going_to_follow_the/

as mentioned in other threads, I really am concerned about compliance. I know it will never be 100% but am concerned about what blatant non compliance may lead to

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Alucard55 · 13/06/2026 13:36

Lovelyview · 13/06/2026 12:55

This is so obvious. John McDonnell of Labour asked if they were going to have checks on the door to make sure Labour women's conference was attended by women. The fact he couldn't conceive that people might be able to stay away if the conference wasn't for them was astonishing and shows just how the trashing of women's boundaries has been accepted in some parts of society. x.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1997406371550306523

I remember this. He didn't realize he was suggesting that men would get angry and violent because they couldn't enter female only spaces.

Lovelyview · 13/06/2026 12:55

CassOle · 13/06/2026 11:48

Exactly.

If they are decent people, they will obey the law.

This cannot be repeated enough.

Toilets don't need 'bouncers' at the door, everyone knows what sex they actually are (even if they wish they were the opposite sex) and they know what the law is.

They can campaign for more unisex spaces if that is what they want.

This is so obvious. John McDonnell of Labour asked if they were going to have checks on the door to make sure Labour women's conference was attended by women. The fact he couldn't conceive that people might be able to stay away if the conference wasn't for them was astonishing and shows just how the trashing of women's boundaries has been accepted in some parts of society. x.com/johnmcdonnellMP/status/1997406371550306523

JellySaurus · 13/06/2026 12:03

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/06/2026 10:32

I think you would use... eyes.

And ears, and nose.

CassOle · 13/06/2026 11:48

Exactly.

If they are decent people, they will obey the law.

This cannot be repeated enough.

Toilets don't need 'bouncers' at the door, everyone knows what sex they actually are (even if they wish they were the opposite sex) and they know what the law is.

They can campaign for more unisex spaces if that is what they want.

MarieDeGournay · 13/06/2026 11:22

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:53

Anyway, back to the thread topic: nothng quite says "we are safe, law-abiding people who can totally be trusted to behave around half-dressed women and girls" like an entire Reddit thread discussing how to violate legally-mandated single-sex spaces.

Thank you!
I can't quite believe the thread took such a bizarre detour, so thank you for bringing it back [deliberate Róisín Murphy/Moloko referenceSmile] to pointing out that males using women-only spaces are by that very fact transgressors, and boasting about it on Reddit makes it even more obvious.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 13/06/2026 09:54

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:31

I am asking if the research shows that trans women in the general population are more likely to be violent offenders. Is the answer yes or no?

Research certainly shows that transwomen are far more ikely to be men than. women

mrshoho · 13/06/2026 09:42

Arp arp, clap, clap 👏

Happy Sea Life GIF by Respective
teawamutu · 13/06/2026 09:28

SinnerBoy · 13/06/2026 09:25

TheHateUGive

I am asking if the research shows that trans women in the general population are more likely to be violent offenders. Is the answer yes or no?

Did you post that from an upturned tub, with a beach ball in your flippers, going "Arp! Arp!" ?

Have we tried giving them a dead fish and seeing if they fuck off?

SinnerBoy · 13/06/2026 09:25

TheHateUGive

I am asking if the research shows that trans women in the general population are more likely to be violent offenders. Is the answer yes or no?

Did you post that from an upturned tub, with a beach ball in your flippers, going "Arp! Arp!" ?

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/06/2026 15:40

stillcantfindreverse · 11/06/2026 11:38

Can we sort this out by saying we'll have the girly womanly female feminine dame spaces, and the frigid hateful bitches space? Label whatever is required, give women who want a single sex space the third spaces, they'll very gladly suck up the 'othering' and 'segregation' all day if it means a usable space without a man in it.

Except of course, this won't do for very obvious reasons that prove that accessible provision is not at all the desired goal of these men.

I have previously pointed out that the TRA model is basically

"Toilet for people who fear they may be at risk from others"

and

"Toilet for people who believe they may pose a risk to others"

On a self identified basis.

MandyMotherOfBrian · 11/06/2026 15:31

Fucking hell, we're not still dealing with sealions on FWR in 2026, are we?
Plus ca change.

SpudGunToo · 11/06/2026 15:03

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/06/2026 13:34

Weirdly we don't do that from hunched over cropped pictures of someone who is white AF and just said they were black. Maybe you identify as black. That didn't go well for that woman did it?

And of course, claiming to be black (while not) is if anything more reasonable than claiming to be a woman while not.

Skin colour really is a spectrum, racial categories are largely arbitrary while sex is a strict binary and very clearly defined.

It makes no sense to say you are black based on physical characteristics while also saying someone can be a woman based on a fetish or psychological problem.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/06/2026 15:01

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 13:53

Anyway, back to the thread topic: nothng quite says "we are safe, law-abiding people who can totally be trusted to behave around half-dressed women and girls" like an entire Reddit thread discussing how to violate legally-mandated single-sex spaces.

Well, quite. Deflections aside.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/06/2026 14:57

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:59

Men can also have on scarves and coats and gloves. They even carry bags :-O I dont take off my scarf to pee. I'm not German. I think this "women need to strip down more" was a reach.

Sigh.

Yes they carry these things.... the point is that it's much easier to hold them / wear them when you pee standing up at a urinal 🙄

It's not just differences in clothes, it's also the sitting, bending and having to lower clothes off your waist / get your undercarriage out of your clothes. It all adds up.

Sure, perhaps none of this applies to you, just as faffing in front of a mirror does not apply to many of the women here. That doesn't mean it's not true for many other women.

I have a feeling you and I have interacted before.

TheKeatingFive · 11/06/2026 14:44

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 14:03

I am asking you to confirm your sexing skills by providing you pics of someone I know the sex of for sure. Me.

My point is that if you're going to get a bomb job, you're not going to go for a late 30s mum of 3 BF kids.

A still photo isn't going to prove anything. Photos can be carefully staged, heavily edited and filtered.

In recognising someone's sex, we recognise how they move, their gait, their voice, even their pheromones.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 14:17

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 14:03

I am asking you to confirm your sexing skills by providing you pics of someone I know the sex of for sure. Me.

My point is that if you're going to get a bomb job, you're not going to go for a late 30s mum of 3 BF kids.

Caveat: photographs can be modified and Adam's apples can be shaved.

Based on your brow ridges and lack of an Adam's apple, I am pretty confident that you are a woman.

Remember that in real life, we have also gait, limb length, voice, and other stuff that gives the game away.

you're not going to go for a late 30s mum of 3 BF kids.

You'd be amazed at what boobs men want to get... wearmyboobs dot com (not linking properly because the preview image is NSFW) is an eyeopening experience.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 11/06/2026 14:11

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:59

Reddit group for mumsnet.

😂😂😂

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 14:03

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 14:01

If you know you are female, you don't need me to confirm it by looking at your gynaecoid brow ridges.

I'm a tad puzzled by the "no one would buy my boobs" comment. Surely you wouldn't want to sell them?

I am asking you to confirm your sexing skills by providing you pics of someone I know the sex of for sure. Me.

My point is that if you're going to get a bomb job, you're not going to go for a late 30s mum of 3 BF kids.

nutmeg7 · 11/06/2026 14:02

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:44

Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

From your study

Your quote is discussing trans men (females, who show higher criminality than non-trans females) and trans women (males, who show no higher criminality than other males).

It does not compare trans women with female biological women. But it does say that trans women as a group retain male patterns and levels of criminality despite their transition.

Given we know there are huge differences between male and female tendencies to criminality, the conclusion is obviously that trans women do not magically adopt female patterns of criminal behaviour after transition.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 11/06/2026 14:01

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:51

Lol are you serious?

I am telling you now that i am a pregnant woman so if you really feel like my eyebrows and breats havent told you enough (nobody would buy my boobs!) then you arent very good at this at all.

If you know you are female, you don't need me to confirm it by looking at your gynaecoid brow ridges.

I'm a tad puzzled by the "no one would buy my boobs" comment. Surely you wouldn't want to sell them?

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 14:01

CassOle · 11/06/2026 13:59

It really doesn't matter what sex or race TheHateUGive is.

Keeptoiletssafe posted evidence that females do indeed take longer in the lavs than males. Maybe THUG missed it (what an unfortunate acronym).

However, all of this is an unhelpful tangent made from giant red herrings.

Once again, the blokes still need to use the men's or unisex provisions, and identity or a GRC makes no difference.

Edited

LOL, it isnt unfortunate. Do you not know what THUGLIFE is an acronym for?

Did you ever see the recent film?

Lovelyview · 11/06/2026 14:00

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:44

Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.

From your study

The study says that trans identified males retain the same pattern of offending as other males. Men commit virtually all sexual offences 98-99 per cent. That's one of the reasons why women have single sex spaces in the first place. 🤷‍♂️ Elizabeth Fry campaigned for sex segregation in prisons in the 1800s leading to The Gaols Act of 1823. Fry's persistent lobbying and evidence-gathering (she became one of the first women to testify before a Parliamentary committee) were a driving force behind this landmark legislation, which mandated sex-segregation in prisons and the provision of female guards. Women need spaces away from men.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 14:00

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/06/2026 13:57

Wonder where that "elsewhere" is? 😂😂

Can't believe women are still having to argue that men have no place in women's changing rooms, women's sport, showers, hospital wards, toilets etc. So bloody tedious.

Oh and you don't have to.argue abiut singke sex spaces, I just asked what these extra layers that women wear are. It has nothing to do with what toilets trans people should use. It has to do with clothing.

TheHateUGive · 11/06/2026 13:59

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/06/2026 13:57

Wonder where that "elsewhere" is? 😂😂

Can't believe women are still having to argue that men have no place in women's changing rooms, women's sport, showers, hospital wards, toilets etc. So bloody tedious.

Reddit group for mumsnet.

CassOle · 11/06/2026 13:59

It really doesn't matter what sex or race TheHateUGive is.

Keeptoiletssafe posted evidence that females do indeed take longer in the lavs than males. Maybe THUG missed it (what an unfortunate acronym).

However, all of this is an unhelpful tangent made from giant red herrings.

Once again, the blokes still need to use the men's or unisex provisions, and identity or a GRC makes no difference.