Plus, trousers cut for the female figure are women's clothes, and a woman who wears them is not 'cross-dressing' despite the regressive ideas asserted by the OP.

@CassOle
absolutely. We do need clothing cut for various body shapes.

Oops, sincere apologies to Stephen Graham.

ADAM Graham of course.

In many ways, it comes down to the cut of the pattern.

A 'skirt' such as a utility kilt, a toga, or a flamboyant Louis XIV-style outfit is cut for a man and the male figure.

If a bloke just likes the feel of silk, for example, why not have a silk skirt that is cut for the male figure?

Well I think this is a crying shame. If only modern man dressed in the aforementioned outfits whilst going about their manly duties, I would be so much more inclined to go to the supermarket for more curry.

I've been veggie since 1984 and at the time the only thing available to buy ready made was cheese and onion pasties from Tesco.

I love love love a hearty veggie sausage. I never liked fish so can't go near anything that resembles that but jumped for joy when I went into a super u near me 3 years ago and found they sold Richmonds veggie sausages. I bought many packets of them. I don't eat meat because the thought makes me wretch.

I knew the lady whose husband discovered Quorn. He got nothing for it. In fact she had to work Saturdays in Tesco's to make ends meet.

I might try the vegetarian white pudding now though.

I think it can be accepted as an indisputable, universal truth that Clonakilty ‘everything’ is lovely.

Edited to add: Oh my gosh, I’m so sorry Marie. Just saw the bit where you said you are a vegetarian. I saw the word Clonakilty and rushed to comment. Didn’t mean to be tone deaf.

Eek! Sorry, I'll add some more petticoats.

Careful, your knees are showing! 😱

Chiffon is gross, manmade and sweaty and lacy petticoats belong to the 1950s.

Is OP Emily Howard?

Of course, since then I have taken care to dress more appropriately. Even though it gets in the way when I'm in the lab.

You know, I think I might have met OP. Years and years ago, on a bus, in East London. He came stomping up the stairs and proceeded to berate all the women wearing jeans or trousers for not womanning properly. Fortunately I was sitting right at the front (best seat on a double decker) so although he could probably see my shoulders shaking with laughter, he couldn't get in front of me for a proper telling off.

Either that or there's more than one of them 🤔

Adam Graham.

Stephen Graham is the actor. As is Adam Graham but you get my drift.

Call a frock a cassock and it miraculously stops identifiying as a dress.

A plopper. Going to assume he posted, rubbed his nubbin and isn't engaging further.

I'm finding it amusing that the OP codes leggings as male attire, Stephen Graham certainly had the pink ones he wore to Court and cut such a dash in (though not quite the dash he expected) coded as very definitely female.

OP, you clearly know absolutely zero about clothing and styles for men and women throughout history and zero about clothing and styles for men and women throughout the world in the present day. Ignorance is no defence.

OP, take your peurile offensive illiterate nonsense somewhere else, this Board is way above your pay grade in terms of knowledge and intelligence.

DH makes a roast every Saturday then we have it every evening. With salad in the summer, added asparagus in the season, and roast vegetables in the winter.

He also look great in a pinny.

Neil, is that you?

It was definitely the legwarmers, Boily. Proper knee-high socks, and no man - or butch lesbian who gets run out of the ladies' with pitchforks - could resist your charms.

Now you 've not only missed a romantic interlude with Postie, but you have to go and collect your parcels from a drop shop.

I do have a degree of sympathy for you, Boily, but ultimately it's your own fault.

Your case underlines the importance of womanning properly - no short cuts, or legwarmers, ladies!😡

There's a difference between a man wearing a dress, and a man wearing a dress with fake tits hanging out in an inappropriate setting which no woman would get away with without being roasted alive.

There's a difference between a man wearing a dress, using the gents and fully aware he's a man and a man wearing a dress, using the ladies and swearing blind he's a woman.

Otherwise crack on mate but don't suggest women are cross dressing and men have had to be ok with it as if men own trousers and have somehow licensed their use to women as a courtesy we should all be grateful for - really fuck off with that shit. Plenty of men from various cultures where long free flowing attire so that's hardly sexed either.

Sorry!! Perhaps someone should mention to him that viagra exists if he can't get it up.

☺️

Now that is proper ladylike, beetle.

Great. The gerbils are laughing at me.