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More fuckwittery from Eva Wiseman, Observer

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ConstanzeMozart · 07/06/2026 09:35

fuckwittery
the EHRC ‘insisting’ on single-sex toilets excluding trans people.
Well, only if they try to use the one for the wrong sex.
There are also some bingo points including trans people being excluded from public life, and women who don’t look feminine being harassed in the Ladies.

‘Lavatory deserts’ mean we are all likely to be caught short

‘Lavatory deserts’ mean we are all likely to be caught short

Lack of proper funding for public bathrooms is putting real stress on all of us - which no one needs when they are desperate for the loo

https://observer.co.uk/news/columnists/article/lavatory-deserts-mean-we-are-all-likely-to-be-caught-short

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Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 15:20

GeneralPeter · 07/06/2026 15:12

Actually I’d like to know about this. It sounds a bit conspiracist to me. But go on.

EA 2010 was a consolidation of many bits of equalities legislation. It wasn’t either in reality or in presentation really about trans issues, which were not a big media issue. I don’t recall any instance of media holding a gun to the govts head over framing of either sex or trans issues in EA2010. What instance are you thinking of?

Between 2010 and 2026 the influence of media barons fell off a cliff. Who are you thinking of who applied this pressure?

The FWS judgment was a Supreme Court judgment. What leverage does the media have over the justices? What legal errors do you think they made under such duress?

The EHRC guidance was laid before parliament by Bridget Philipsson, who was running to be deputy leader of the Labour Party. How much do you think her electorate (Labour members) are swayed by right wing media? Did she have more to gain or to lose by being seen as right wing in this issue?

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The EHRC guidance was laid before parliament by Bridget Philipsson, who was running to be deputy leader of the Labour Party. How much do you think her electorate (Labour members) are swayed by right wing media? Did she have more to gain or to lose by being seen as right wing in this issue?

Oh please. They won't vote Reform whatever she does. This is about holding on to government not her seat that GC's actively advocate against.

GeneralPeter · 07/06/2026 15:12

Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 14:40

And how much do you know about the right wing media outlets that forced their hand? You act as if right wing media haven't held a gun to the labour governments head.

Oh & genuine left leaning women would never enable Reform.

Actually I’d like to know about this. It sounds a bit conspiracist to me. But go on.

EA 2010 was a consolidation of many bits of equalities legislation. It wasn’t either in reality or in presentation really about trans issues, which were not a big media issue. I don’t recall any instance of media holding a gun to the govts head over framing of either sex or trans issues in EA2010. What instance are you thinking of?

Between 2010 and 2026 the influence of media barons fell off a cliff. Who are you thinking of who applied this pressure?

The FWS judgment was a Supreme Court judgment. What leverage does the media have over the justices? What legal errors do you think they made under such duress?

The EHRC guidance was laid before parliament by Bridget Philipsson, who was running to be deputy leader of the Labour Party. How much do you think her electorate (Labour members) are swayed by right wing media? Did she have more to gain or to lose by being seen as right wing in this issue?

Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 14:46

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 14:41

Left leaning 'progressives' are exactly who created Reform, and MAGA too.

According to MAGA & Reform its white women 'failing to do their bit' for the birth rate who are responsible for the brownification of their countries.

But yeah, do keep on looking the other way.

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 14:41

Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 14:40

And how much do you know about the right wing media outlets that forced their hand? You act as if right wing media haven't held a gun to the labour governments head.

Oh & genuine left leaning women would never enable Reform.

Left leaning 'progressives' are exactly who created Reform, and MAGA too.

Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 14:40

GeneralPeter · 07/06/2026 14:32

How much do you know about this issue? Becuase both the EA 2010 and the Supreme Court decision was made under Labour administrations. For Women Scotland which took the case was founded by left-leaning women, and the EHRC guidance was drafted under a Labour admin and laid before parliament by a Labour govt.

You think that was all a long-running conspiracy to “fight for the survival of the right”?

And how much do you know about the right wing media outlets that forced their hand? You act as if right wing media haven't held a gun to the labour governments head.

Oh & genuine left leaning women would never enable Reform.

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 14:36

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 11:03

Sorry, it must be tough for you who are American to have to be associated with either MAGA loons or else swivel eyed, screaming progressives ( Barking and making other dog noises seems to be the latest craze when demonstrating against feminists speakers these days).

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https://x.com/boswelltoday/status/2062807223307268444?s=20

https://x.com/bindelj/status/2062779846237782296?s=20

Barking mad in Trancouver.

Bruce Bowman (@boswelltoday) on X

I don’t want to spoil Julie’s surprise. PLEASE watch to the end!🤣

https://x.com/boswelltoday/status/2062807223307268444?s=20

GeneralPeter · 07/06/2026 14:32

Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 10:15

Way to miss the point of anti trans loo etiquette distracting from real issues like declining public resources but then the right's survival relies on scapegoats to avoid accountability so here we are.

How much do you know about this issue? Becuase both the EA 2010 and the Supreme Court decision was made under Labour administrations. For Women Scotland which took the case was founded by left-leaning women, and the EHRC guidance was drafted under a Labour admin and laid before parliament by a Labour govt.

You think that was all a long-running conspiracy to “fight for the survival of the right”?

DialSquare · 07/06/2026 14:18

Another privileged traitor to her own sex.

moto748e · 07/06/2026 14:15

WalkingTheTightropeOfStreetCred · 07/06/2026 14:09

Huge contrast with Victoria Smith's latest-

https://glosswitch.substack.com/p/what-shouldnt-women-have?

I would really appreciate it if MPs who oppose the EHRC guidance could, just this once, express their opposition solely in terms of what it means for female constituents. Just say directly “you shouldn’t have this”, and “it’s wrong for you to expect that”. List everything that’s unacceptable. Name what, if anything, might be aside for the class of humans whom it is perfectly easy to define when doing a PornHub search or looking to hire a surrogate, but not so, apparently, when said humans are wanting to be left in peace. Is there any space on earth in which female humans should be able to congregate without the potential presence of male humans?

Are you listening, Nadia?

DialSquare · 07/06/2026 14:12

ConstanzeMozart · 07/06/2026 11:10

No, her background is liberal, fairly affluent suburban London. Although she spent years slumming it and writing in her column about living in a pokey flat above a chicken shop on a gritty main road, the urban struggle etc etc.
As soon as she got to the having-kids phase, though, she hightailed it (clearly actually had the means to) back to outer London and lovely houses on quiet streets with big gardens.
She’s a fraud.

🎵I wanna live like common people…🎵

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 07/06/2026 14:09

It so ironic that the UK Liberal Left will march against the USA at the drop of a hat, yet outsource all their social DEI policies to the same foreign power.

WalkingTheTightropeOfStreetCred · 07/06/2026 14:09

Huge contrast with Victoria Smith's latest-

https://glosswitch.substack.com/p/what-shouldnt-women-have?

I would really appreciate it if MPs who oppose the EHRC guidance could, just this once, express their opposition solely in terms of what it means for female constituents. Just say directly “you shouldn’t have this”, and “it’s wrong for you to expect that”. List everything that’s unacceptable. Name what, if anything, might be aside for the class of humans whom it is perfectly easy to define when doing a PornHub search or looking to hire a surrogate, but not so, apparently, when said humans are wanting to be left in peace. Is there any space on earth in which female humans should be able to congregate without the potential presence of male humans?

What shouldn't women have?

Is recognising our entire existence just too “unworkable” and “not fit for purpose”?

https://glosswitch.substack.com/p/what-shouldnt-women-have

moto748e · 07/06/2026 14:06

And that they are addressing a US audience as much as a UK one.

teawamutu · 07/06/2026 13:56

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 07/06/2026 10:58

It has to be "bathrooms " otherwise all my compatriots won't understand the complexities of those mean, nasty British women not letting tran-identified people men "pee.". She's writing for the online Omicause American audience as much as to virtue signal to her UK cronies.

Also, suggests that she's outsourced her thinking to American TRAs. You tend to catch a lot of 'bathrooms', 'restrooms', 'first grade biology' etc among that cadre.

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 11:29

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/06/2026 11:11

Barking and making other dog noises really that's the new thing is it, to show how mature and intelligent their World View is no doubt

If they were true to their characters, they really would be honking and clapping like seals. 😂

Take a look at the clip Julie Bindel posted recently. I'm not sure if it was in Canada or the U.S tbh.....but the same madness. The mental health criisis in young people is very evident in their behaviour.

FridayOnMyMind · 07/06/2026 11:22

Baileyonice · 07/06/2026 10:15

Way to miss the point of anti trans loo etiquette distracting from real issues like declining public resources but then the right's survival relies on scapegoats to avoid accountability so here we are.

It’s not anti-trans.

Keeptoiletssafe · 07/06/2026 11:20

I wrote a big response to this but the page got refreshed and deleted.

In short, Eva needs to do some research. All she needs to do is google toilet closures and found out the reasons councils have given. It will be antisocial behaviour and cost associated with trying to supply a service they have no statutory duty to supply in a time councils are cash strapped.

If she spent £15k on each toilet each year but it was used for sex, drugs, and vandalism, what would she do?

Its nothing to do with the EHRC.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 07/06/2026 11:11

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 11:03

Sorry, it must be tough for you who are American to have to be associated with either MAGA loons or else swivel eyed, screaming progressives ( Barking and making other dog noises seems to be the latest craze when demonstrating against feminists speakers these days).

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Barking and making other dog noises really that's the new thing is it, to show how mature and intelligent their World View is no doubt

If they were true to their characters, they really would be honking and clapping like seals. 😂

ConstanzeMozart · 07/06/2026 11:10

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 10:53

Is she American.....she used the word 'bathrooms'?

No, her background is liberal, fairly affluent suburban London. Although she spent years slumming it and writing in her column about living in a pokey flat above a chicken shop on a gritty main road, the urban struggle etc etc.
As soon as she got to the having-kids phase, though, she hightailed it (clearly actually had the means to) back to outer London and lovely houses on quiet streets with big gardens.
She’s a fraud.

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ConstanzeMozart · 07/06/2026 11:07

RoniaCheetah · 07/06/2026 10:51

Historically the Observer have actually been better on this issue than The Guardian but clearly not this columnist.

Yes, I’m surprised by this. She’s not that great a journalist (even putting aside this fuckwittery); surely they can’t be scared of losing her if they told her not to write this kind of thing any more?

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EmpressaurusKitty · 07/06/2026 11:05

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 07/06/2026 11:05

All I can say is thank goodness I live in the UK (as bad as it has been, it could be A Whole Lot Worse)!

Hurray for Terf Island!

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 07/06/2026 11:05

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 11:03

Sorry, it must be tough for you who are American to have to be associated with either MAGA loons or else swivel eyed, screaming progressives ( Barking and making other dog noises seems to be the latest craze when demonstrating against feminists speakers these days).

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All I can say is thank goodness I live in the UK (as bad as it has been, it could be A Whole Lot Worse)!

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 11:03

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 07/06/2026 10:58

It has to be "bathrooms " otherwise all my compatriots won't understand the complexities of those mean, nasty British women not letting tran-identified people men "pee.". She's writing for the online Omicause American audience as much as to virtue signal to her UK cronies.

Sorry, it must be tough for you who are American to have to be associated with either MAGA loons or else swivel eyed, screaming progressives ( Barking and making other dog noises seems to be the latest craze when demonstrating against feminists speakers these days).

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 07/06/2026 10:58

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 10:53

Is she American.....she used the word 'bathrooms'?

It has to be "bathrooms " otherwise all my compatriots won't understand the complexities of those mean, nasty British women not letting tran-identified people men "pee.". She's writing for the online Omicause American audience as much as to virtue signal to her UK cronies.

Shortshriftandlethal · 07/06/2026 10:58

ConstanzeMozart · 07/06/2026 10:15

The Observer is nothing to do with the Guardian any more.

It probably retains a large cross-over audiience, though. The Guardian, for one, has become ever more dependent on its american audience in recent years.
I'm so sick of Americans TBH - with their political and social hegemony and belief that the whole world dances to their tune.