How to respond he/she?

To describe someone as a twat isn’t a fact. I’m not a vagina.

It is rude and abusive to expect people to follow your beliefs when they do not. It is also abusive/illegal for him to use single sex spaces that do not match his biological sex.

What an extraordinary thing to say, it's just a statement of fact.

God help us all when the TRAs are trying to tell us clear, factual language is 'derogatory and abusive'. Talk about manipulation.

I hope you don't use the term "TIM" to or in front of friend's son's friend? It's derogatory and abusive.

In what way is it derogatory and abusive to describe a Trans Identifying Male as a Trans Identifying Male? It's just a statement of fact describing a male who identifies as being trans.

I hope you don't use the term "TIM" to or in front of friend's son's friend? It's derogatory and abusive.

You’re literally judging now

The inability to lie in some is so strong that they would rather leave a situation than be forced to lie. For others, lying is easy.

You’re the moron with your tautology, bad grammar and misused exclamation mark.

I’d leave asap. Why would you want to spend time with people who tell lies to please a man?

There's a big difference between gay and trans.

If a man sincerely says he feels sexually attracted to men, he is gay, since to feel attracted is to be attracted.

But if a man sincerely says he feels he is a woman, he is mistaken, since being a woman is biological and not related in that way to feelings.

Sincere claims to be gay must be true. Sincere claims to have changed sex must be false.

Do you see @AStonedRose?

Your sexual orientation is determined when you’re born, same as whether you’re predisposed to being tall, thin, autistic etc. So being Gay is perfectly normal.

However, it’s a scientific impossibility to change sex so why pretend otherwise?

Trans is a choice same as choosing to wear a fake moustache, having tattoos or to dye your hair green.

It’s another form of self expression but you can’t insist that others applaud and celebrate your choices. That’s controlling!

This is where ‘Be Kind’ gets us!

Nope, I won’t be indulging in this nonsense for anyone.

Friendships that require you to ditch your principles and play ‘let’s pretend’ to affirm his delusions and continue to fuck up women’s safety and dignity are really not worth pursuing. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@AStonedRose read my comment again. I said being gay, being black is not a choice.
Being “trans” IS a choice.
Have a read about rapid onset gender dysphoria for its impact on teens especially girls.
No one is born in the wrong body, no one is born “trans”. It’s a choice.
And amongst adult men in particular it’s a fetish.

What about the English guy who decided he was Korean, should we go along with pretending that is true ?

@AStonedRose what are your thoughts re someone identifying as black? Is that okay?
Or adults pretending to be babies/children?
Or identifying as animals? (Furries)
Are those behaviours inappropriate or totally ok to you?

To me and most other people such behaviour is very inappropriate and clearly a signal the person is not well. Very problematic behaviour.
I wouldn’t be happy to hang around anyone behaving like that (would you?)
Ditto men in dresses.

If you are a man, choosing to present as a woman is a choice. How could it not be?

How we respond to that choice will depend on what degree we believe that man a) feels genuinely more comfortable presenting as a woman or b) is presenting 'woman face' to appropriate / colonise womanhood or feed a fetish.

Personally I believe trans presenting men fall across all of that spectrum.

This is predicated on the idea that being trans is a choice, which is again, transphobic in itself.

I bet in your mind being gay's a choice too?

Oh dear….. I suggest you do some research, reading. Maybe start by watching any you tube content with Helen Joyce or read her book.
Being gay or black is not comparable to being trans. Because being trans is a choice…..the other two are not you just are. and are not unwell as a result.

I don't see anyone trying to stop anyone from doing anything here.

I see posters openly stating they will not speak to a trans person, or be at the same social gathering as one. About as hostile as it's possible to be without resorting to verbal abuse or violence.

And other posters are saying that's disgusting and transphobic. As most people would, as it's such an extreme way to behave. And now you're trying to shut people down for saying that.

Looks like freedom of choice and freedom of speech only work in one direction.

It's not about being judgemental, it's about not lying to yourself about who/what is in front of your face. Yet again, the jibes and pointed comments come from certain users like transparently. You do you and let OP do her. Look where being kiiiiiiind gets us!!
Personally, I'd avoid pronouns

(Eric Olthwaite's dad faked a bilious attack to get out of situations- maybe OP could be inspired by him?) 😊

I think not wanting to associate with someone just because they are trans, or even leaving a gathering because a trans person is present, is almost as transphobic as it's possible to be, however you choose to justify it to yourself.

Replace the word 'trans' with 'gay' or 'black' and you'll see the problem (or, perhaps more accurately, others might. I expect you never will, as you clearly have a problem with trans people per se).

Actually I think that is a comparable example of people not being kind or accepting of each other.
The difference being that ultimately one can be just shrugged off with “oh well, time for some new friends I guess” and move on, no physical damage done.
The other…. you could think exactly the same and then go on to permanently, irreversibly alter your body.

I would argue that the first example isn’t kind. The second…….is kind. Because encouraging and accepting a persons decision to “be trans” is not kind. The opposite. @TransParentlyAnnoyed
You wouldn’t encourage anyone, especially not your child to modify their body by not eating, anorexia. Why do so with permanent body modifications?

What?? I’m not transphobic. I just don’t want to hang around with someone who is clearly unwell. Or their parent/ anyone else who is endorsing it as I think that’s abusive.
I also don’t want to offend so it’s better for me to leave so no chance of causing offence causing offence.
Ideally I’d want to talk to them to try and help them see sense but a night out isn’t really the place is it!