Is there less Rainbows Pride marketing shizzle this year?

Are you being homophobic?

What?!
A good many regular posters on this board are lesbians. Didn't you know?

These I-just-stumbled-in-here posters are getting reeeeally boring

I think you are being very disingenuous.

You ask a leading question using 'is Mumsnet still just anti-trans' which definitely implies that you think that the forum is transphobic, especially due to the following 'or have people on here moved towards outright homophobia these days.'

Are you after screenshots?

I am guessing many companies just do not want to go all in and do it for a whole month, it is quite a commitment

Can you ask for a new one in suffragette colours only. Tell them it would be discrimination otherwise.

Are you being homophobic, though?

Yes, as well as being a bit actually racist in implying the original flag did not include homosexual people of colour.

I don’t think Mumsnet has ever been ‘anti trans’, there are some greatly valued trans contributors that frequent this very board. Where did you get the idea we were anti trans @changingofthenameagain ?

I am not asking for your views on gender and I didn’t use the word transphobic.

I am asking you and all the other people on this thread if this thread is homophobic.

The fact that nobody seems to want to answer me speaks volumes.

'...is Mumsnet still just anti-trans or have people on here moved towards outright homophobia these days.'

This shows that you do not understand the issues at all.

It is not transphobic to understand that mammals can't change sex and that same-sex attraction exists.

The cotton ceiling and the boxer ceiling are homophobic. Stonewall's Nancy Kelly stating that lesbians who won't include biological males in their dating pool are 'sexual racists' is truly horrific. This is why the 'progress' flag is regressive in the extreme.

It's become for many women a symbol of sexism and repression. It's very very sad.

I miss being able to feel happy and positive about Pride 😢I miss the flag feeling like a symbol of progress rather than something to be wary of.

I try to remember the basic impetus of LGB acceptance and celebration is still a huge part of it even if the noisy pronoun people are currently grabbing all the attention.

I don’t have time to do that, and that wasn’t my question. Maybe I wasn’t clear so let me rephrase it a bit.

As a woman I don’t find these flags problematic and I was hoping to understand what the issue with them is, i.e. is Mumsnet still just anti-trans or have people on here moved towards outright homophobia these days.

Ours is just the usual orange There's a small display of rainbow shizzle for buying by the front door at our store, but the stuff doesn't seem to be shifting.

Hatred? That's a very strong word to use. I suggest you have a read of a few threads in this section to find out why either of those flags can be problematic for women and LGB community.

OP - idk about online but the physical stores seem very muted in their rainbow wares and definitely less bunting hanging down. Pp might have got it right suggesting football tat and beer is more profitable. Although I can't stand that either 😂

Is this thread specifically hatred towards the “Progress” flag or is it for the Pride flag in general?

Asking because I don’t venture onto this board very often, this thread somehow popped up.

I wonder if the men's football World Cup starting next week will be more of a marketing focus. Lots of beer to sell.

Post Office counters had a poster on the glass this morning. Pride progress background.

🙄

The Sainsburys self-scan handsets - which can be changed for Christmas or Hallowe'en or whatever - have got the flag-of-many-colours on at the moment...

Just seen my professional regulator has changed their icon to shizzle. That's really disappointing.

None of the few apps on my phone have changed

The Boots logo on the website has gone all rainbow-y. The ASDA logo on their website is in the "Progress" flag colours - but I'd stopped ordering from them anyway. Ditto the logos in the Sainsbury site, including the Argos logo, but on the actual Argos site it's unchanged. The Tesco site has changed the underlining below the letters in its logo to red yellow, green, blue and purple, so a truncated rainbow. I don't see any difference on the Aldi and Lidl sites. On the Waitrose site the name WAITROSE is in the "Progress" flag colours, as you would expect from the John Lewis Pratnership.

But it’s still a shame that the LGB pride flag has been co-opted and forever tarnished by a bunch of angry men, in their efforts to overturn women’s rights, and champion the rights of paraphiliac predators.

It’s far less shocking that a load of grasping, immoral, virtue-signalling businesses were quite happy to jump on a bandwagon they thought would pay out long term, and now are quietly shuffling off sideways now the whole thing looks likely to bite them in the arse.

I am seeing less overt posting and rainbow washing, and what there is, is frequently back to the original striped flag. That progress abomination is on the slide for sure. Although I did see one set up that reminded me of that London scene a few years ago that was likened to 3rd Reich-style flagging and it was jarring by its imposition.

(By the by, someone posted on LI that June is also Men's Health Month as well. Till this year I'd had zero awareness of that and would be much happier to support that.)