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Sick to the back teeth of “people with ovarian cancer” etc

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HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 08:07

One of the most insidious effects of the creep of gender wang into everyday life is the replacement of “women” or “woman” with “people”. Just heard Amol Rajan talking about “people with ovarian cancer” on the Today programme; last night the (otherwise watchable and interesting) Sky special on maternity services in the UK mentioned “people in labour…people using our services…”. Argh 😡

Come on, Amol and Sky maternity services programme presenters and every other journalist and broadcaster who does this: you know full well that ovarian cancer sufferers and that the people giving birth are all - every single one of them - WOMEN. Always have been, always will be.

Please use the words WOMAN or WOMEN. It really is very easy. In fact, these words should just trip off your tongues - no mental gymnastics required.

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HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 09:01

GreyskySexRealistsky · 04/06/2026 08:51

A trans man is a woman. At no point did the OP say trans men don't have ovaries.

I didn’t even use the word “trans”.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 04/06/2026 08:53

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 08:51

Actually don’t bother explaining. I don’t want to argue with people who are anti-reason, anti-science and who throw slurs around.

You can guarantee that in the first 5 posts someone will say "what's it to you" when you've explained what it is to you. It's a lack of comprehension, and that's why clear and meaningful words are so important.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/06/2026 08:52

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 08:51

Actually don’t bother explaining. I don’t want to argue with people who are anti-reason, anti-science and who throw slurs around.

👏👏👏

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 08:51

Actually don’t bother explaining. I don’t want to argue with people who are anti-reason, anti-science and who throw slurs around.

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 04/06/2026 08:51

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A trans man is a woman. At no point did the OP say trans men don't have ovaries.

Chrysanthemum5 · 04/06/2026 08:50

@LabourWillSaveOurKidsFutureif it were about clarity and inclusion then men’s issues would also be referred to as ‘people’ eg ‘people with a prostate’. But that doesn’t happen, it is only women that is a replaceable term.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 08:50

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Pardon?

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/06/2026 08:49

Agree OP. Time to reverse the notion that the words woman and girls are somehow shameful, wrong, unsayable. It's misogyny on steroids. It panders to the Victorian ideology practised by toxic men who see women and girls as objects, to be purchased, disciplined and used for their own ends.

The word woman must never be removed from healthcare - ever.

LabourWillSaveOurKidsFuture · 04/06/2026 08:48

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AImportantMermaid · 04/06/2026 08:36

Hard agree. Language is important.

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 04/06/2026 08:34

But not good enough, is it? What exactly are they scared of? (Rhetorical question)

Gets right on my (womanly) tits.

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BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · 04/06/2026 08:32

I've just seen this on the Sky News website:

https://news.sky.com/story/new-ovarian-cancer-treatment-approved-for-nhs-the-first-for-20-years-13550608

Uses the word "woman" throughout, so they obviously do know, and can use correct terminology when they want to, just don't want to say it out loud on national TV. But it's ok in a news article online?

Perhaps they think that activists can't read?

OP, I agree, it's infuriating, but I have seen signs that things are very slowly returning to reality. Very slowly. Only when no one is looking.