I'm really interested to see what response this thread will get

On second thoughts I think I should have stopped at the phrase ‘XY woman’ too. Because it's bollocks. (So to speak).

I haven’t seen this sort of post before either and I’m wondering how best to respond to it.
I don’t have much sympathy for some men who say they are transwomen because it for at least some of them it’s a sexual fetish, and for those I wonder whether that is all there is to it, i.e. they don”t really see themselves as actual women, rather they know it’s just all about sexual pleasure, autogynephilia. They get aroused seeing themselves as a woman. Like many people, I have little or no interest in someone else’s fetish.
I don’t necessarily disbelieve men who feel or have felt they are women throughout their lives but I wonder if they are in the minority, that is to say, are autogynephiles far more common?
Also I’m a heterosexual woman and can’t say I have ever really felt an innate sense of gender as I can’t really differentiate this from my upbringing and being socialised as female from childhood.

This thread has clearly been set up for the purpose of ridiculing a trans person. Let’s not tit about trying to pretend otherwise.

i expect it will disappear soon. There’s no transphobia on mumsnet

You're intelligent enough to do the work yourself.

I would suggest to this op.

A, Get a real, normal job where you have to interact with humans occasionally.

B, go outside everyday ideally to do some light exercise somewhere where you can see nature with your eyes, not on a screen.

C. Get a pet (or more sensibly a pot plant as I'd fear for an animal) to take care of.

D. Get a wholesome hobby outside the home. I recommend group needle felting/book club or similar.

E. Get of the internet.

F. If symptoms persist, seek professional help via a doctor.

It is genuinely sad that therapy is so captured. This man obviously needs help, but as soon as gender is mentioned therapists seem to lose all professionalism.

Aye. UK born & bred with your cook stove.

Look if you want to spend your time exploring your innate gender wang, crack on. But don't kid yourself you're in any way representative of an average British woman and don't use your patronising insults on me thanks.

Its neither a silly nor batshit opinion.

I would be reporting the therapist.

Nothing about his post or his responses has any sexual element.

That's a bit of a snidey comment. What exactly do you think I should be learning that I'm not?

I am indeed in the UK and I maintain it is a silly stereotype to say that women never naval gaze. And anyone who is actually "sitting around talking to the voices in their heads" is mentally ill, and that can afflict men or women of any class or age.

Well, you don't seem to be learning much from stalking a feminist forum.

I don't think it is usual to decide you are trans because an "inner voice" told you, and I think it would have been fairly easy for you to find that out, especially if you're spending a lot of time stalking transgender forums.

It's not batshit.

I completely agree that the vast majority of women, even those who are in therapy, are busy as fuck with careers or kids and wouldn't be sitting about talking to the voices in their heads.
There will be a few, but they are unfortunately mentally ill & hopefully receiving help.

'Cook stove' suggests you're not a woman in the UK. Maybe it's a eutopia of navel gazing females where you are, but i don't know a single woman around me who has time for this BS. Figuratively or literally.

The post now has two responses, both of them gentle but skeptical. One explains why the term "XY women" isn't usually used. The other openly cautions about taking "inner voices" too seriously.

Don't think you're going to see the rush of unquestioning affirmation you were hoping for, OP.

No, it’s the ramblings of a man who is trying - and failing badly - to embroil others into his fetish.

Seems a bit unkind to have a cross-forum discussion of the words of a seemingly rather vulnerable man, who is in therapy and therefore probably struggling with his mental health. I'd leave him be.

I agree with PP upthread. The guy is hearing voices & having a psychotic episode.

Back to the drawing board for Queer theory.

Yes. Astonishing that it’s still the men who dominate, isn’t it?

Not an attempt to derail, but the far more interesting thread is the one where a bunch of TIFs are complaining that TIMs just ignore them, mistreat them or use them as cannon fodder in the 'bathroom' wars. Turns out that misogyny attaches to sex, not gender. Who knew?

This. It sounds nuts

Yes, da fuq is an XY woman?