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Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

562 replies

happydappy2 · 31/05/2026 10:19

Having learned more about the sexual desires of males, AGP in particular. I now think that as women we have to push back and stop this madness. We live in a world where females are vulnerable to sexual assault by males-we are literally hunted by them. Combined with the safeguarding of children aspect....all parents I know explain to young children that if you get lost, look for a lady to help you, preferably another Mummy....I know men can wear a padded bra to achieve the look, but still the thought of males getting sexual pleasure by having fake boobs & their male tackle-just seems wrong. Am I alone in thinking this? Looking at society as a whole, I can't see any benefit to women and children of men being allowed to get silicone breast implants.....

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Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 20:34

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 01/06/2026 20:29

I was reading that thread. You are, of course, taking the post out of context. IIRC a poster was telling you that a trans-identified female was raped recently as a result of the ideology you appear to support. Though who knows what you think really since you are so coy about your arguments and so ready to claim victimhood any time anyone asks you a probing question.

That’s not the post i was referring too. A person specifically said that I ‘want women to be raped’. In fact I think they actually said women and girls which is even worse. I am a survivor - it was a deeply disgusting thing to say to anyone let alone a survivor and on a thread where there are other survivors.

as for saying I’m claiming victimhood - shame on you,

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 01/06/2026 20:29

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:29

Yes they did. It wasn’t inference. They said I wanted women to be raped.

I was reading that thread. You are, of course, taking the post out of context. IIRC a poster was telling you that a trans-identified female was raped recently as a result of the ideology you appear to support. Though who knows what you think really since you are so coy about your arguments and so ready to claim victimhood any time anyone asks you a probing question.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 01/06/2026 20:28

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 12:00

I am sorry your child had that experience.

however, I take issue with your statement that trans women are women and therefore sure it’s grand let them in wherever.

i have trauma. My right to single sex spaces is enshrined in law. The and individuals don’t get to break the law.

futhwrmore, the continual boundary crossing engaged in by trans women is a slippery slope. There is one “out” trans woman on this website who has made it clear that he doesn’t care about my consent or lack thereof and that he intends to continue to enter female spaces. This is abhorrent.

your child may, at some point in the future, need the sex based protection in the EA and it’s important that those are maintained.

edit for spelling. My hands are shaking as a result of being massively triggered by some comments made by a poster here and I’m struggling to come down from it.

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I don't agree with you (as I said elsewhere) but I feel for your pain. I have trauma myself and frequently shake when I read aggressive transphobic comments on here, so I get that. Thanks for your words about my child, and I hope you feel better.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 20:27

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 01/06/2026 20:22

Making trans women quietly using an adjacent, locked cubicle - same as they always have - sound like a planned invasion, is transphobia.

Trans people just exist. They need the toilet sometimes.

Banning them from the Ladies will prevent precisely zero sexual.assaults - it increases the threat of them, because any cis male sex offender can now claim to be a trans man instead. Or they will simply continue to go in when they see it's quiet, as they always have.

Forcing all trans men into the Ladies and policing cis women's appearance is not a win.

So my rights dont matter?

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 01/06/2026 20:22

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 12:14

I am not aware of ever having invented any theories around trans people. I accept that they exist and they should be allowed to present as they please.

what they aren’t is entitled to enter the single sex spaces of the sex that they have transitioned to, in the uk at least.

Making trans women quietly using an adjacent, locked cubicle - same as they always have - sound like a planned invasion, is transphobia.

Trans people just exist. They need the toilet sometimes.

Banning them from the Ladies will prevent precisely zero sexual.assaults - it increases the threat of them, because any cis male sex offender can now claim to be a trans man instead. Or they will simply continue to go in when they see it's quiet, as they always have.

Forcing all trans men into the Ladies and policing cis women's appearance is not a win.

missmollygreen · 01/06/2026 20:11

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 31/05/2026 11:03

Most trans identified males don't gain breasts via implants, but via taking cross sex hormones.

Yes, and if they have gone that far then their "tackle" is probably useless.

TransParentlyAnnoyed · 01/06/2026 20:04

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 12:16

Your child is/was gender non conforming. They are not somehow the opposite sex. You are in a hiding to nothing trying to get the rest of the world to pretend that they are.

That is not because of 'transphobia' that is because we all know humans can't change sex, it's basic scientific principle.

He's trans masc, gay and gnc.

Which means he is a trans man who likes men, and does not confirm to male stereotypes - he wears skirts and make-up quite often, rejects aggressive masculinity and presents as androgynous.

Your worldview's very narrow. Maybe stop telling other people who they are and trying to fit them into boxes you know about. Read more trans voices and accept difference, it might make you happier.

If you don't understand someone, the best thing to do is listen to them.

happydappy2 · 01/06/2026 20:03

blythet · 01/06/2026 19:51

They presumably know their breasts aren’t real so that should help any confusion they maybe have when looking in the mirror

But then what is the benefit to them?

Unless it's a fetish?

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blythet · 01/06/2026 19:51

happydappy2 · 31/05/2026 15:33

If someone has anorexia, we don't affirm their delusion-we help them get better. We recognise they are suffering and need therapy to get better.
Why, when a man claims he's a woman and needs breasts why do Drs agree?
I just cannot see the benefit and imagine it causes more confusion for that individual to look in the mirror and see male genitals down below, female up top....I honestly don't see it as helping them.

They presumably know their breasts aren’t real so that should help any confusion they maybe have when looking in the mirror

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:51

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:50

I’ve never wished rape on anyone.

unfortunalteky you say the thread is deleted so I’m unable to challenge.

I found being wished peace multiple times deeply distressing and triggering.

I apologise - that wasn’t my intention and I stopped when you said you didn’t like it. I used it in posts to others but not to you once you said that

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:50

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:47

Yes it was on another one. But so deeply upsetting and triggering.

I’ve never wished rape on anyone.

unfortunalteky you say the thread is deleted so I’m unable to challenge.

I found being wished peace multiple times deeply distressing and triggering.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 01/06/2026 19:49

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:45

I have just looked too and realised It was on another thread about Pride flags on the Waitrose app. The OP requested the thread to be deleted. So apologies - it was another thread not this one. Deeply upsetting all the same.

edit: correcting typos

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I have to say, well done you for admitting you made a mistake.

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:47

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:46

I was about to say I’d looked back and hadn’t remembered such a comment on this thread either.

Yes it was on another one. But so deeply upsetting and triggering.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:46

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:45

I have just looked too and realised It was on another thread about Pride flags on the Waitrose app. The OP requested the thread to be deleted. So apologies - it was another thread not this one. Deeply upsetting all the same.

edit: correcting typos

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I was about to say I’d looked back and hadn’t remembered such a comment on this thread either.

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:45

helderste · 01/06/2026 19:43

I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

I’m sorry I’ve missed that and cannot find anything like it when I look back. Please can you quote the post(s) where someone tells you that you ‘want women to be raped’?

I have just looked too and realised It was on another thread about Pride flags on the Waitrose app. The OP requested the thread to be deleted. So apologies - it was another thread not this one. Deeply upsetting all the same.

edit: correcting typos

helderste · 01/06/2026 19:43

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:25

It’s not untrue - I do wish that. If you choose to think its untrue that’s up to you.

Refusing to engage when people are not engaging respectfully or demanding I explain myself is within my rights. If people think that’s disrespectful to choose not to engage when people are acting in a way that does not allow for meaningful conversation then that’s up to them.

Also i am a survivor. I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

I’m sorry I’ve missed that and cannot find anything like it when I look back. Please can you quote the post(s) where someone tells you that you ‘want women to be raped’?

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 19:39

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:28

Continuing to twist and goad and provoke. Deeply unsettling.

And now we have reached the Reverse action.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:35

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:29

Yes they did. It wasn’t inference. They said I wanted women to be raped.

Women are at risk for men im women’s single sex spaces.

I have trauma such that I don’t want a male hcp, I don’t want to be in a counselling session with a mn, I don’t want a man in a changing room where I am.

trans women are men. Legally. And it’s relatively easy to spot almost all of them in rl. It’s a combination of body shape , stance, gait, hands, facial shape, voice as well as presentation. Seeing a man in a SSS sends me into a complete meltdown. If I ask for a female hcp I want a female hcp. I don’t want to be lied to and gaslight

trans individuals should campaign for a fourth space.

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:29

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:27

No one said you wanted women to be raped. Stop with the hyperbole. The logical conclusion of your argument is the dismantling of protection for women that stand on consent

Yes they did. It wasn’t inference. They said I wanted women to be raped.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:28

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:28

Continuing to twist and goad and provoke. Deeply unsettling.

Yes, you are.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:28

Also. I was treated so severely that it only was it rapeS (multiple) it was also attempted murder.

I would never treat anyone the way you have me.

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:28

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 19:15

And please stop with the 'All the best'.

I was not referring either to your choosing not to respond. I actually asked specifically about a post.

Great that you choose not respond. However, as I pointed out, your post seemed to be directly contradictory and was in fact disrespectful while you were telling everyone how respectful you were.

You are now continuing with wishing me sentiments that I have expressing indicated were making me uncomfortable.

You are now also continuing to categorise this thread as not a meaningful discussion while refusing to engage in meaningful discussion. ie. I think that you don't actually understand just how contradictory and hypocritical your posts are all the while you fully believe that you are 'respectful.

Continuing to twist and goad and provoke. Deeply unsettling.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 19:27

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:25

It’s not untrue - I do wish that. If you choose to think its untrue that’s up to you.

Refusing to engage when people are not engaging respectfully or demanding I explain myself is within my rights. If people think that’s disrespectful to choose not to engage when people are acting in a way that does not allow for meaningful conversation then that’s up to them.

Also i am a survivor. I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

No one said you wanted women to be raped. Stop with the hyperbole. The logical conclusion of your argument is the dismantling of protection for women that stand on consent

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 19:25

helderste · 01/06/2026 19:09

Reread your posts on this thread.

You will see that you’ve said that other posters who’ve asked questions regarding your stated opinions aren’t open to meaningful discussion, which read as evasive, rude and disrespectful.

You will see that you’ve told a poster who disclosed her distressing experiences of male violence that you’d had the same experience then told her you wished her peace, which came across as dismissive, insincere and offensive.

Lying by saying you wish people peace or happiness when it’s obviously untrue is disrespectful.

It’s not untrue - I do wish that. If you choose to think its untrue that’s up to you.

Refusing to engage when people are not engaging respectfully or demanding I explain myself is within my rights. If people think that’s disrespectful to choose not to engage when people are acting in a way that does not allow for meaningful conversation then that’s up to them.

Also i am a survivor. I have been told on this thread more than once I want women to be raped. It’s disgusting.

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 19:16

It's darkly ironic that Kate is wishing @Taztoypeace, because dismantling single sex provision (as Kate advocates doing) destroys the peace of women like Taztoy who need these spaces.

I don't know whether Kate just hasn't thought that through or whether Kate thinks its acceptable collateral damage to destroy some women's peace to pander to men.

However, what is more clear is that Kate thinks that being a good person is about signalling the 'right' mantras rather than actually doing the hard yards to understand what's important to maintain women's safety and dignity in society.