Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

It looks like everything I say is a slur! Or 'hate speech'. Or 'transphobic'.
Including - this one is a real humdinger - 'ideology'.

No matter how much research, thought, life experience, reading, analysis, listening, discussion, discovery I have done, anything I say gets shoved into a box marked SLURS by TransParentlyAnnoyed. Alongside boxes marked RACISM and HOMOPHOBIA.

I'd better shut up then, hadn't I, or I'll set you off again, by using some other piece of standard English which you'll re-purpose as a slur.

Sorry. JFC read this back to yourself

Pls say this bit to Kate as she won't listen to us:

If you don't understand someone, the best thing to do is listen to them

Oh come OFF it.

You are the one bleating that nonsense.

Make 1 constructive suggestion.

You can't because you refuse to listen to us and actually read and inwardly digest what we say.

I'll try again: 3rd spaces. M for men. W for women and U(nisex) for everyone who doesn't want/need to segregate by sex.

We have been asking for that on here FOR YEARS

Is anyone who says they're a transwomen a women with no other conditions or do you think they need to use hormones or have genital surgery?

Do you not care about the Bricks?

I think it's exceedingly clear what a woman is.

One who was born a woman or one who has transitioned to being a woman. Both are women. Not exactly the same, no, but both women nonetheless.

Trans women are who they say they are.

TWAW.

Protect the Dolls!

Lol you can’t compare having anorexia- I life-threatening disease, with a bloke wanting breast implants 🤣 one has a high fatality rate - we treat anorexics because there’s a high likelihood they’ll die without treatment. There’s no remotely comparable medical risk to a man getting breast implants

If you consistently refuse to engage other than to say the same things over and over again with occasional added personal insult, what on earth do you expect? Capitulation because people become utterly bored with your bullshitting and wander off, possibly with the words "yes dear, no dear, three bags full dear, whatever you say dear", to watch some paint drying? You are unlikely to get that; pointing and laughing at you is more probable, really, and also more deserved.

A long time ago now I saw "no debate" being used as a battlecry and immediately worked out (all on my own) that the person saying it had nothing that would be worth hearing to add to any debate. The only reason not to be prepared to debate is because of inability to produce anything worth looking at with any care or attention. "My way or the highway", like "anyone who isn't with us is against us", is a contemptible position to adopt.

Discussion is much the same as debate. If you are not qualified to take part in it, please don't try to pretend that you are choosing not to; that's like a cat trying to cover up on lino, doomed to failure

It could in theory be made illegal in the same way puberty blockers for gender incongruence outside a clinical trial and amputating people's legs without medical need is illegal. You don't permit medical practitioners in this country to do it if you deem it too harmful to the patient.

Or to some extent society I think. The individual might be very happy being disabled, but why should we be paying for NHS care in relation to any consequent health issues, or disability benefits for a self-inflicted injury? You can't refuse care either I don't think, we don't leave people without medical care who need it, but at least we can try to prevent it happening in the first place and hope other countries will do the same.

I can't see how giving men breast implants would meet that standard of harm, much as I dislike cosmetic surgeries for anything other than reconstruction after injury. I could see genital surgeries in the name of gender one day being deemed to meet the threshold of too much harm to the patient.

Much less time then the men themselves do, I imagine 😘

How much time do you spend thinking about men who have implants to become trans?

The frenzied disingenuous spit-balling is making me laugh, but I agree the specific types of thread which are given this treatment is very telling.

The darvo tactics of terfs - great thesis

It is interesting to spot which types of threads are targetted by posters trying to provoke reactions to get the threads deleted. Reckon there's a whole PhD (well, maybe just a third year undergrad dissertation) to be had on the phenomenon.

Pot calling the kettle black...

Darvo at its finest

You clearly don't know what gaslighting is.
Asking to be treated with respect without being accused of hatred or phobia is not gaslighting. Asking for your comments to be read in the way they're clearly intended and not intentionally misunderstood is not gaslighting.

hahahaha oh mr keating!! Keep on with the gaslighting and persistence

I do strive to state my position clearly, yes.

I think we all have the measure of you from this thread also.

hahaha you’re so transparent. “Woman won’t do as I say even when I shout at her so I’ll just keep trying to provoke her instead”

no means no

Well we can only conclude that you are simply repeating a slogan you've been fed, that you don't understand, but you want to take women's rights to single sex spaces away anyway off the back of it.

Nice 🙄

Also, a man is never going to be allowed to get implants on the NHS! So how exactly could it be made illegal? Even if it was made illegal through private companies in the UK, if someone’s that desperate to get a pair of boobs, they’ll go abroad and get them. I’d be interested to hear how you’d police this if, in some parallel universe it was illegal… “Excuse me Sir, I just need to take a look under your shirt to make sure these are man boobs caused by your obesity, rather than implants” 🤣🤣

This is the UK ffs, we’re a democratic country where minorities are supposed to be allowed to live peacefully and people have the freedom to look/dress/live how they want. I guess you want all the benefits of that for yourself but think others shouldn’t be allowed it?…If you feel so strongly why don’t you move to Saudi Arabia where any man who dared to wear fake tits would be stoned to death? That seems to be more inline with your values. But bear in mind that you, as a woman, will have barely any rights or be allowed to do anything without permission from your husband. That’s fair though. If he doesn’t have rights then why should you?

Not all men who want to be women have AGP, and of those who do, very few will have it so severely that they will permanently alter their body and choose to live as a somewhat persecuted minority, just for a sexual fetish. They’re much more likely to have removable breasts so that they can choose when to indulge in this fetish and not have it fuck their whole life up. Also, most trans women don’t get implants anyway, they grow breasts from the hormones they take. I’m GC but the way you’re talking is quite worrying and sounds a bit like you’re advocating for some kind of dictatorship or trying to incite hatred against trans women by spreading disinformation

youre able to read for yourself

Haha shouting DISCUSSION doesn’t make it any better. “Someone won’t do what I want so I’ll keep pestering and then shout”. Very male behaviour.

no means no in any circumstance.