Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

the thought of males getting sexual pleasure by having fake boobs & their male tackle-just seems wrong. Am I alone in thinking this?

I sure bloody hope you are,

What's "wrong" is busybodies thinking they have the right to decide what kind of pleasure other people are entitled to get in their own bodies,

How do you know you're not?

Your child is/was gender non conforming. They are not somehow the opposite sex. You are in a hiding to nothing trying to get the rest of the world to pretend that they are.

That is not because of 'transphobia' that is because we all know humans can't change sex, it's basic scientific principle.

I am not aware of ever having invented any theories around trans people. I accept that they exist and they should be allowed to present as they please.

what they aren’t is entitled to enter the single sex spaces of the sex that they have transitioned to, in the uk at least.

what is grim!

My child is an individual who knew who they were at four years old, and has been let down by ignorant adults addicted to transphobic hate.

He has thought very deeply on the subject of gender, is a dedicated feminist and as a gnc trans guy who often expresses that by wearing skirts, needs no lecture on the 'right' way to exist.

Trans people are just trans. Inventing theories about them to explain their existence, rather than listen to them, is transphobia.

I am sorry your child had that experience.

however, I take issue with your statement that trans women are women and therefore sure it’s grand let them in wherever.

i have trauma. My right to single sex spaces is enshrined in law. The and individuals don’t get to break the law.

futhwrmore, the continual boundary crossing engaged in by trans women is a slippery slope. There is one “out” trans woman on this website who has made it clear that he doesn’t care about my consent or lack thereof and that he intends to continue to enter female spaces. This is abhorrent.

your child may, at some point in the future, need the sex based protection in the EA and it’s important that those are maintained.

edit for spelling. My hands are shaking as a result of being massively triggered by some comments made by a poster here and I’m struggling to come down from it.

Grim.

The poster has a female child, if I remember correctly.

I'm not victim blaming. I'm saying your poor child has been terribly let down by the people who pretended to be their side.

At the end of the day, humans can't change sex and sex matters in our world. Far better for these children to have been told there is no 'right way' to be male or female and be supported within that knowledge.

Oh get lost. Victim-blaming anyone - let alone children - for being themselves is genuinely evil.

The vast majority of trans children (like my son) have done nothing more than go to school with a new name and slight haircut change, and you think it's understandable they're targeted?!

No one creates trans children. He was the sole trans boy in a school of hundreds, and the target of unimaginable harassment. No child would put up with that unless living as themselves meant more.

As if you care in the slightest about him. Online transphobia is rocket fuel to the abuse that is irreparably harming trans children.

I don't really see why. Neo penis/neo vagina or whatever they call them are much more brutal and harmful and unnecessary and that's legal?

Why should only one sex be allowed breast surgery? The act of having silicone breasts isn't actively harmful to the person or to others. You may not like the look of it.

But men can wear breast plates that look like comically large boobs which if anything could be more offensive looking. As a responsible surgeon wouldn't agree to putting such big implants into someone.

Fine, if men want breast implants and are prepared to pay for them, I wouldnt stand in their way.

Unfortunately women now know more about what's motivating many of these men than they ever wanted to 😵‍💫

Telling vulnerable children that either a) they could essentially change sex or b) people would go along with the idea that they had changed sex - was immensely wrong.

I'm sorry your child got caught up in it. I hope they get the mental health support they need.

The trans activists have done this generation a huge disservice.

Breast enhancement surgery is sometimes - VERY rarely - given on the NHS to female people, where (perhaps due to a genetic difference in sexual development) their own breast are not developed, or are significantly different in size, and if they are suffering extreme psychological impact as a result. The threshold to qualify is very difficult to overcome but the risks and costs are no less for these people than they are for males, so I don't think there is justification for an outright ban, just that the threshold to qualify should be such that it is extremely rare, and never given just because of a desire or fetishistic motivation.

I'm the mother of a young trans man who - as I've said repeatedly here - suffered extreme harassment and violence at school.

I've many times watched him collapse exhausted from the hypervigilance after enduring a school bus ride home.

I've watched him grow up and learn all kinds of extra defences. Tactics for being followed, filmed, stalked, harassed on the street, when strangers (as they do repeatedly) ask "what are you?"

I've seen it happen to other trans people too - and worse. Every young trans woman I know has been forced to leave home and has no family support.

I have seen, close-up and for years, the impact that transphobic hate - all of it enabled by online transphobia - has had.

I know what it feels like to watch your child leave the house and feel terrified he isn't going to come back. That's not hyperbole - he was several times approached by adults who tried to get him to leave with him.

What on earth do you think all the conspiratorial thinking, hatred and ignorance visible on here results in? Violence, most of it sexual, and usually against children.

Treating trans people as a conspiracy is encouraging violent men to believe that attacking them - even killing them - is socially acceptable. Dehumanisation always does that.

My god you need help. What an absolute avalanche of hatred. Just because don't want to hear trans children report the violence and fear they live with, or see the statistics showing a steep rise in hate crimes against trans people, does not mean it is untrue.

But what happens when it goes wrong after the private surgery and he gets an infection or sepsis or some other medical emergency that he then needs lifesaving surgery for?

It’s so confusing when these TRAs abuse the English language calling men women & women men. My opinion of a man abusing oestrogen is the same as my opinion of a woman abusing testosterone. Either way they are drug abusers just like bodybuilders abusing anabolic steroids like testosterone.

Son. See above.

I agree with this.

Here's an interesting case of a local health service having to deal with a problem arising overseas, in this case
'where do you go when you have a problem with your recently acquired overseas neo-vagina?'
The answer in Dublin in 2024 was, ironically... the National Maternity Hospital.

Apologies, mea-culpas, must do betters, meetings with trans groups...
but at least the discrimination claim was dropped.

However, the case is used as 'evidence' for the need for specific trans healthcare provision, it has even been claimed that the root of the problem was that he had to travel abroad instead of being provided with his neo-vagina at home in Ireland.

In fairness, it should be pointed out that this case is outnumbered by people presenting with serious health issues arising from cosmetic/aesthetic/dental work carried out overseas, as mentioned by RareGoalsVerge, so it's not just an issue with trans-related treatments.

St James’s Hospital apologises to trans woman over treatment at emergency department – The Irish Times

I don't think any cosmetic surgery should be illegal, but I agree with pp that a condition of having it privately done should be the purchase of some form of insurance that will fund any care necessary as a result of complications.

Yes, that would probably be the way to go. Just like medical insurance when someone visits the US. I think the NHS has a pretty dire record of actually getting money owed out of visitors to the UK who use A&E, so the Department for Chasing Payments would need to be beefed up a bit.