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Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

562 replies

happydappy2 · 31/05/2026 10:19

Having learned more about the sexual desires of males, AGP in particular. I now think that as women we have to push back and stop this madness. We live in a world where females are vulnerable to sexual assault by males-we are literally hunted by them. Combined with the safeguarding of children aspect....all parents I know explain to young children that if you get lost, look for a lady to help you, preferably another Mummy....I know men can wear a padded bra to achieve the look, but still the thought of males getting sexual pleasure by having fake boobs & their male tackle-just seems wrong. Am I alone in thinking this? Looking at society as a whole, I can't see any benefit to women and children of men being allowed to get silicone breast implants.....

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TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:24

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:20

You can goad and provoke as much as you like. It shows that this space is not intended for open and meaningful discussion. My position is clear. I support trans rights and women’s safety. I believe both are compatible.

How are they?

Women want their sex based rights upheld

You want to allow men to 'identify in' to these single sex spaces, thus making them mixed sex spaces, thus rendering women's sex based rights obsolete.

Tell us how you are going to square that circle?

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:22

SockPlant · 01/06/2026 17:20

Don't know about anyone else but I prefer Sex Realist

Yes me too.

Putting gender in the title focuses on what not important. I couldn't give two hoots about anyone's 'gender identity' they can knock themselves out.

When it comes to sex specific rights and spaces only sex matters.

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 17:21

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:20

You can goad and provoke as much as you like. It shows that this space is not intended for open and meaningful discussion. My position is clear. I support trans rights and women’s safety. I believe both are compatible.

"I believe both are compatible."

And you cannot engage in any meaningful way in how they will work together, meaning that you are really just repeating a platitude that makes you feel better about yourself.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 17:21

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:20

You can goad and provoke as much as you like. It shows that this space is not intended for open and meaningful discussion. My position is clear. I support trans rights and women’s safety. I believe both are compatible.

How do you see that working?

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 17:20

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:18

It is clear that @Kate8175is a fan of throwing out a meaningless mantra instead of actually explaining her position

It is not new. It is like a script.

But at least the poster feels good about themselves and doesn't have to evaluate the incoherency and inconsistency of their position.

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:20

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:18

It is clear that @Kate8175is a fan of throwing out a meaningless mantra instead of actually explaining her position

You can goad and provoke as much as you like. It shows that this space is not intended for open and meaningful discussion. My position is clear. I support trans rights and women’s safety. I believe both are compatible.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 17:20

SockPlant · 01/06/2026 17:20

Don't know about anyone else but I prefer Sex Realist

It’s THE GCs I object to. Dehumanising.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 01/06/2026 17:20

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 16:24

I don’t believe this is about female socialisation. It’s about basic human respect for others

'Respect me by lying to me'. No ta.
Live long and prosper.

SockPlant · 01/06/2026 17:20

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 15:00

ok I apologise for the shorthand - I used GC as I believed that’s how gender critical people refer to themselves. How would you prefer me to refer to people who hold those beliefs?

No one is worth less. I don’t believe it is one set of rights v another’s. I don’t see being trans as a voluntary action. I see trans women as women who are they really are. They also experienced significant harm and also deserve protection.

Don't know about anyone else but I prefer Sex Realist

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:19

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:18

Not here, no. There’s no point when the discussion isn’t open or meaningfuland people
are just trying to prove a point. I am happy in my values and beliefs and wish you peace and happiness

People are simply asking you to explain yourself.

Why won't you do that?

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:18

It is clear that @Kate8175is a fan of throwing out a meaningless mantra instead of actually explaining her position

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:18

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:14

Are you going to comment on your cavalier approach to women's sex based rights?

Not here, no. There’s no point when the discussion isn’t open or meaningfuland people
are just trying to prove a point. I am happy in my values and beliefs and wish you peace and happiness

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:16

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 17:15

I see.

That is a typical answer.

Perhaps then you should not pretend to respect everyone's opinion while actually disrespecting them because they choose to not blindly follow the decisions that you, personally, have made. If you find yourself not being able to support your own decisions, that is something for you to come to terms with, but perhaps you should effectively telling people you don't respect their choices while declaring that everyone should have their beliefs respected.

It is an incoherent position.

Wishing you peace and happiness

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 17:15

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:06

Im not getting into a debate about this and answering all the questions - we have very different views on trans people. I believe trans women are women and trans men are men. Many of you believe otherwise. Im not here to change your mind and answering all your questions wouldn’t do that anyway. I wish you all peace and happiness

I see.

That is a typical answer.

Perhaps then you should not pretend to respect everyone's opinion while actually disrespecting them because they choose to not blindly follow the decisions that you, personally, have made. If you find yourself not being able to support your own decisions, that is something for you to come to terms with, but perhaps you should effectively telling people you don't respect their choices while declaring that everyone should have their beliefs respected.

It is an incoherent position.

SockPlant · 01/06/2026 17:14

SinuousTendrils · 01/06/2026 12:55

It does happen and it isn't rare.

As they say out there in internet land: citation needed.

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:14

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:13

Wishing you peace and happiness

Are you going to comment on your cavalier approach to women's sex based rights?

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:13

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:11

I was posting here about the OP. I’ve expressed my views. I don’t find the discussion here open or approached in a meaningful manner so I won’t be continuing.

Edited

Can't you at least elaborate on why you've decided to prioritise men's demands over women's rights, needs and dignity?

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:13

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:11

It would be a lot easier to wish you peace and happiness also if you weren't selling women's rights to single sex spaces down the river.

What makes you think that's a moral thing to do?

Wishing you peace and happiness

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:11

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 17:08

Why you post here then if it wasn’t to engage? I’d really like to have a meaningful discussion about the competing rights.

I was posting here about the OP. I’ve expressed my views. I don’t find the discussion here open or approached in a meaningful manner so I won’t be continuing.

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:11

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:06

Im not getting into a debate about this and answering all the questions - we have very different views on trans people. I believe trans women are women and trans men are men. Many of you believe otherwise. Im not here to change your mind and answering all your questions wouldn’t do that anyway. I wish you all peace and happiness

It would be a lot easier to wish you peace and happiness also if you weren't selling women's rights to single sex spaces down the river.

What makes you think that's a moral thing to do?

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 17:09

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:06

Im not getting into a debate about this and answering all the questions - we have very different views on trans people. I believe trans women are women and trans men are men. Many of you believe otherwise. Im not here to change your mind and answering all your questions wouldn’t do that anyway. I wish you all peace and happiness

So you believe these men have changed their sex?

How? Why? When do you think this happens?

As you are giving away women's hard won rights on the back of this belief, you must feel the evidence is very strong, yes?

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:08

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 16:34

so, this isn't you implying that not using demanded language is disrespectful?

I read this directly as you questioning why I and others cannot be respectful and use the female language a male person demands we use for them. Maybe you didn't intend it to be judgemental, but I don't see this post above as being 'respectful' towards the people you labelled as 'GCs'.

GCs call themselves GCs. I’m merely using the language they do about themselves.

Taztoy · 01/06/2026 17:08

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:06

Im not getting into a debate about this and answering all the questions - we have very different views on trans people. I believe trans women are women and trans men are men. Many of you believe otherwise. Im not here to change your mind and answering all your questions wouldn’t do that anyway. I wish you all peace and happiness

Why you post here then if it wasn’t to engage? I’d really like to have a meaningful discussion about the competing rights.

Kate8175 · 01/06/2026 17:06

Im not getting into a debate about this and answering all the questions - we have very different views on trans people. I believe trans women are women and trans men are men. Many of you believe otherwise. Im not here to change your mind and answering all your questions wouldn’t do that anyway. I wish you all peace and happiness

Helleofabore · 01/06/2026 16:54

TheKeatingFive · 01/06/2026 16:44

It still shocks me the degree to which people just took leave of their senses on this topic.

Did it not occur to people that it's completely unreasonable to ...

a) agree a certain cohort of men are actually women despite all scientific facts and

b) hand over women's spaces to these men without even asking women if they consent.

I also think that the repetition of the mantras successfully keeps the belief in those platitudes going and gives those repeating them comfort so they don't really have to look for accurate evidence and evaluate it properly and understand with any depth the negative impacts on female people that the policies and behaviours that they support have.

The old 'what you say is accurate and factual but I don't like the way that you say it' or the 'I agree but I am nothing like you horrible women'.