Should breast implants for males be made illegal?

And please stop with the 'All the best'.

I was not referring either to your choosing not to respond. I actually asked specifically about a post.

Great that you choose not respond. However, as I pointed out, your post seemed to be directly contradictory and was in fact disrespectful while you were telling everyone how respectful you were.

You are now continuing with wishing me sentiments that I have expressing indicated were making me uncomfortable.

You are now also continuing to categorise this thread as not a meaningful discussion while refusing to engage in meaningful discussion. ie. I think that you don't actually understand just how contradictory and hypocritical your posts are all the while you fully believe that you are 'respectful.

Reread your posts on this thread.

You will see that you’ve said that other posters who’ve asked questions regarding your stated opinions aren’t open to meaningful discussion, which read as evasive, rude and disrespectful.

You will see that you’ve told a poster who disclosed her distressing experiences of male violence that you’d had the same experience then told her you wished her peace, which came across as dismissive, insincere and offensive.

Lying by saying you wish people peace or happiness when it’s obviously untrue is disrespectful.

I prefer 'all the best' to 'Peace', I appreciate that change of greeting.
We obviously have different definitions of 'meaningful discussions' but that happens sometimes.
All the best to you too.

You really can’t help yourself can you.

Choosing not to respond isn’t disrespectful. It’s my choice whether I respond to demands and I am choosing not to as this thread is not a space for meaningful discussion as your posts highlight. All the best

But that’s the point exactly. You get it.

i wish you peace is offensive as fuck. Because I’m wrong think and I’m not worthy of respect. I even had a trans woman here tell me that they dint require my consent. Add that to the trauma trumps accusations etc and it’s clear to me there’s no respect for my experiences from some people.

I believe I have written two posts explaining how, yet you refused to engage and wished me peace.

If you have no wish to know what I and others think, that is your own decision. If you wish to answer my question about just how consistent you believed the post that I highlighted was to your understanding of respect, by all means please explain. I asked with the genuine intention of understanding how you believed how the post was inline with your beliefs about respecting other's opinions. Because I fail to see the post I referred to in that way.

And again, please do not wish me peace, it is incredibly uncomfortable and it is not appropriate in light of your posts on this thread.

That you cannot tell us the full horror doesn't mean we are unable to care about you, and genuinely wish you as well as is possible for you (as opposed to mouthing a platitude as if that somehow made everything all right, us right and you wrong).

Because I do. Genuinely. And the platitude-spouters can go piss up a pole, to use my mother's highly inelegant phrase for her feelings about that sort of person.

So true.

i actually find it so difficult that I’m effectively gagged on here. I mean I get that it’s upsetting for others but it means I can’t explain why it matters so much to me

'Women unfree will never be at peace.'

How have I been disrespectful?

Same. Please don’t do it to mine either. It’s disrespectful and triggering. Thank you.

I personally find someone deflecting from engaging with statements of ‘wishing peace’ while also then not being respectful as being highly uncomfortable. Please stop doing that in relation to my posts.

@Kate8175 can you please elucidate exactly how I have been disrespectful. Thank you

If you wish to misinterpret my intention that’s up to you! Wishing you peace all the same :)

You do know that saying you wish people peace is the equivalent of telling someone "I will pray for you" with the definite implication that they are badly in need of being enlightened as a result of the prayers of others who actively disrespect them?

Yes, I'm sure you do....

I see. So you don’t want to correct any misinterpretation - just accuse people of bad faith interpretation.

Or maybe you wish to make disrespectful statements while denying that you are doing so which is rather dishonest.

edit to add: You want to claim it is ‘goading’ so you can claim that you are the victim however valid the observation is. Your claim of respecting people is contradictory to your posts.

I’ve never met anyone else who is an attempted murder victim. I would welcome your tips for how to get over it.

As I’ve stated above, I’m not willing to discuss further here as it’s not a place for respectful, open or meaningful discussion with so many people just trying to goad, provoke or intentionally misinterpret. Wishing you peace all the best

Black men (some black men) call themselves and each other niggahs. This absolutely does not entitle anyone else to use that sort of racist, offensive, pejorative term about any black man.

(I am with the person who prefers the phrase gender realist, by the way. I am not critical of gender any more than I am critical of jeans or skirts; I try to be realistic about it and them.)

Actually, you didn't bother answering the pertinent question about whether or not you intended to be so disrespectful in your comments. I am not talking about you labelling people as 'GCs'. I am specifically asking you directly if you meant your post to disrespect other's choices to not use the language you choose to use?

"I read this directly as you questioning why I and others cannot be respectful and use the female language a male person demands we use for them. Maybe you didn't intend it to be judgemental, but I don't see this post above as being 'respectful' towards the people you labelled as 'GCs'."

I read you posts as being very hypocritical. Maybe you didn't mean them to be, or maybe you have come to believe that you can attempt to shame others through emotionally manipulative language because you have seen that being used by activists and have copied it.

TRA's dodging any and all reasonable questions regarding their philosophical beliefs and the impact they have on the material reality of women as a sex class👀

It occurs to me that men who want everyone other than sexually vanilla-straight humans of either sex to come under the "trans umbrella" have done themselves no favours at all by going out of their way to make it easy for violent and sexually violently men to claim to be trans (self-identifying as trans) when they are charged with or convicted of violent and sexual crimes. It must greatly increase the number of absolutely fake-trans male offenders being recorded as trans women. And since it allows them to insist they should be imprisoned in the women's estate, it makes them really, really obvious when the statistics are looked at and it is discovered that trans sexual offenders are a larger proportion of the male prison population than ought to be reasonable if trans people are 0.5% or fewer of the population at large.

Yip. Agree. And the Allys are almost worse.

What this whole sorry mess has taught me is that casual misogyny is absolutely rife in our society.

Vast swathes of people genuinely believe that men's demands are more important than women's rights and needs. That's clearly illustrated on this thread.

Now I'm sure people aren't necessarily conscious of this when they're doing it, but the speed and enthusiasm with which so many are happy to hand women's spaces to men because men want them - bears it out.

Its been eye opening. In a hugely depressing way.