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Ed Davey says the EHRC code has failed in its objective and calls for post legislative scrutiny of the GRA & EA. Presumably to legally allow blokes in the ladies.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 30/05/2026 18:22

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Ed Davey says the EHRC code has failed in its objective and calls for post legislative scrutiny of the GRA & EA. Presumably to legally allow blokes in the ladies.
Ed Davey says the EHRC code has failed in its objective and calls for post legislative scrutiny of the GRA & EA. Presumably to legally allow blokes in the ladies.
Ed Davey says the EHRC code has failed in its objective and calls for post legislative scrutiny of the GRA & EA. Presumably to legally allow blokes in the ladies.
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KittyWilkinson · 30/05/2026 20:02

Ed Davey, Mr. Gullible at the Post Office and still swallowing bullshit.
He should stick to going down helter skelters on his coconut mat, or whatever wacky I'm mad me, look at me, things he does.

MarieDeGournay · 30/05/2026 19:50

A quote from the 2004 Lords debate on the GRB, Baroness O'Cathain speaking, following Lord Tebbit
He [Tebbit] has the advantage of having truth and logic on his side because the basic proposition of the Bill is mistaken. A man cannot become a woman. A woman cannot become a man. He also has the advantage of being able to point to considerable disagreement among the medical profession world-wide. I have made the point before that we normally legislate only when we are sure about the science and when we can be sure that what we are doing is the best thing for the people affected. Psychiatrists and psychologists are far from being of one mind that attempting to change sex is the best solution.

" the basic proposition of the Bill is mistaken. A man cannot become a woman. A woman cannot become a man."
As clear today as it was 22 years ago.

Brainworm · 30/05/2026 19:37

LazyFoxy · 30/05/2026 18:37

Always about any other group than women! What is wrong with these people? Don't they care? (no need to answer that)

The likes of Davy are convinced that right thinking/ decent women have no issues sharing female only provision with transwomen and therefore they should be included.

They hold an enemy image in their heads of women who object and view all objection as unreasonable as a result.

ItsCoolForCats · 30/05/2026 19:23

MarieDeGournay · 30/05/2026 18:52

He's really gone for the full bingo card there hasn't he - 'intersex', butch women having to prove they are women, trans people deprived of 'essential services' [no they're not, they just choose not to use them], rights/tolerance/protection for everybody except women..

Sorry, that last bit is unfair: like many trans allies, he bravely stands up for one group of women - the butch ones who allegedly get hounded out of the ladies'.. all other women are of no importance to Ed Davey & Co.

How people can still churn out inaccurate, cliché-laden, biased stuff like this amazes me.
Wouldn't you love to have him sitting across a table from you, so you could go through it with him, line by line, ending with 'I'm very disappointed, Ed, I expected better of you..'

The worrying thing is, of course, that there are a lot of similar mindsets in positions of authority.

I agree. I didn't have much respect for Ed Davey to begin with, but I have none now.

Marie Goldman is totally bonkers on this issue, but why is the leader of the party signing his name to this nonsense?

MarieDeGournay · 30/05/2026 19:23

I'm not a UK subject, so it's not my business, but I'd love to print out his letter, annotate it carefully and post it back to him:

'intersex' is not acceptable

'non-binary' is not a legal category

have you any evidence that gender non-conforming women have been having the issues you claim?

no trans person is 'barred from' essential services such as toilets - they choose not to use the available toilets designated for their sex.

women's rights to single-sex spaces are clearly in conflict with transwomen's demands to use women's toilets, which would make them mixed-sex spaces

does your British tradition of respecting the law exclude rulings of the UK Supreme Court?

the issues raised today were in fact raised during discussion of the Gender Recognition Bill in 2004, and several MPs made exactly the points that are made today: that sex is binary and it is impossible to change sex, making legislation based on 'gender' a nonsense.

and so on.

The Lords debate on the GRB is available at
Gender Recognition Bill [HL]: 29 Jan 2004: House of Lords debates - TheyWorkForYou
showing that there's nothing new about the kind of objections that GC women are making today.

Ed Davey became an MP in 1997, acc to google, so he was in the Commons when the GRB was being debated, and would have been aware of the strong objections coming from the Lords.

nicepotoftea · 30/05/2026 19:20

He makes himself look like an idiot.

It's one thing new MPs not understanding the difference between the guidance and the law, but it's quite another when it's the leader of a political party.

If he wants to campaign to change the law he needs to do that through the proper processes. His letter just gives the misleading impression that the law doesn't apply.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 30/05/2026 18:53

We are committed to upholding women's rights and trans rights, and do not believe the two are in conflict.

Bizarre thing to say. He obviously does believe that they are in conflict or he wouldn't be writing the letter.
I have to say that putting men's desires ahead of women's needs is one thing, but this attempt to use gnc women as a weapon to help to dismantle women's rights is absolutely despicable. I thought the whole 'patriarchy' thing was a bit overdone before gender ideology came along, but it seems it was even worse than most of us ever imagined.
Shame on you Ed Davey, and shame on the Lib Dems.

MarieDeGournay · 30/05/2026 18:52

He's really gone for the full bingo card there hasn't he - 'intersex', butch women having to prove they are women, trans people deprived of 'essential services' [no they're not, they just choose not to use them], rights/tolerance/protection for everybody except women..

Sorry, that last bit is unfair: like many trans allies, he bravely stands up for one group of women - the butch ones who allegedly get hounded out of the ladies'.. all other women are of no importance to Ed Davey & Co.

How people can still churn out inaccurate, cliché-laden, biased stuff like this amazes me.
Wouldn't you love to have him sitting across a table from you, so you could go through it with him, line by line, ending with 'I'm very disappointed, Ed, I expected better of you..'

The worrying thing is, of course, that there are a lot of similar mindsets in positions of authority.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 30/05/2026 18:51

Non-binary has no status in any UK law because it doesn't exist other than as a self-described label like goth or emo..

LazyFoxy · 30/05/2026 18:37

Always about any other group than women! What is wrong with these people? Don't they care? (no need to answer that)

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 30/05/2026 18:35

I still think the chances of the code being rejected are low but there are some MPs trying....

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Arran2024 · 30/05/2026 18:28

Lib Dems have zero influence. I should know - i have a lib dem mp. Hopefully the gov will ignore this. But I will write to my mp (who I think is secretly supportive).

Pingponghavoc · 30/05/2026 18:27

I don't think any government will want scrutiny of the GRA in the days of the Internet.

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