Good Law Project to report Sex Matters over 'deviant' remark

Meh.

I think condemning the whole discipline on the basis of this one shoddy example is a bit rash?!

À propos of nothing, I'm going to get a T shirt with "Phuck Philosophy" on it.

Ok Toilet 🚽 🫅 Queen then your highness. 🤩

Toilet Goddess, surely?

Your work is very impressive and much more impressive than all the millions of pounds taxpayer funded organisations who should (excuse the pun) know and be on top of this toilet safety shit, but who noticeably aren't, in most cases.

It would be good to have a quote from the judgment on this.

Not sure it said exactly what you said here. Happy to stand to be corrected.

What he did say is that employers must keep trans identified men out of the toilets otherwise they’re committing a criminal offense. We have so much to thank GLP for.

Google AI is not your friend - you need to look beyond the first search results. And get a grip on your understanding of percentages which seems very poor.

According to a recent survey there is 1 council run public toilet for every 15,481 people in the UK.

https://www.rsph.org.uk/news/public-toilet-deserts-widespread-across-england/

On that basis @Keeptoiletssafe ‘s comment about most people not using public toilets is completely valid

Have you got stuck in another A Level philosophical loop and forgotten about reality again?

I don't think the police log whether somebody is trans.

The vast majority of sexual offences are unreported, but crimes like voyeurism and indecent exposure are committed by men and it is easier to commit these offences when there is access to women in a state of undress or when it is legal to be in a state of undress.

Without any way to know somebody else's gender, all you are left with is the removal of barriers.

What are the numbers?
There were loads that were closed before 2000 btw.

Well I have been thanked for my research on toilets over the years as a TERT (Tired of Explaining the Reality of Toilets), but to imply I am a toilet god is a bit extreme.

From memory this wasnt a matter in which he was asked to make a judgment. It was an aside comment which is still to be tested in court.

Feel free to cling on to hope that your arguments might succeed but you’ll have to accept that most people here dont rate your chances very highly

They have closed 40% since 2000. That still leaves 60% open for 16.5 million people in that link…..& nary a whisper.

If he felt strongly that the EHRC were wrong he would have asked them to change the guidance.

And again, your big, big problem is that you can't actually provide an exclusive facility for women + trans women and exclude men because there is no way of knowing anybody else's gender. In practice it can only be a facility for everyone.

You're new around here, aren't you?

Do they still have public bathrooms in France? I haven't come across those.

In the UK those died out in the last century.

However, I am familiar with the concept of women having fewer rights in other countries.

Even Justice Swift can't change the rules of logic.
A single sex service that can be used by both sexes is not single sex.
Justice Swift did not ask the EHRC to change their guidance, so anyone relying on his comment is on rather shaky ground.

That's because it depends on the individual facts of the case & whether there was less favourable treatment so he couldn't make judgment generally.

They’ve mostly been closed down. Do you live on the moon and are therefore unaware of this?

France is a bastion of misogyny and sexism, why use that as an example?

Even Justice Swift can't change the rules of logic.

A single sex service that can be used by both sexes is not single sex.

Justice Swift did not ask the EHRC to change their guidance, so anyone relying on his comment is on rather shaky ground.

But regardless of that, your problem is that there is no way to exclude anyone on the basis of gender which is why services that define themselves as 'inclusive' put up signs asking people not to question anyone's use of the service. These services are for anyone who wishes to use them.

And again, if you want to campaign for mixed sex services you should certainly do that. Just please stop complaining that women who want single sex services are excluding a specific group of men when they are very clear that they wish to exclude all men.

Most people rarely use a council-run toilet.

And you know this how? Are you omni present?

Yes, misogynist don't like women.

Nonetheless, in England we have laws. And if you're male, you need to stay out of women's spaces.

Unisex in the sense that trans women in France can legally use female public toilets. France does not have national legislation regulating bathroom access by gender or biological sex.

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Most people rarely use a council-run toilet. They use toilets in supermarkets, restaurants etc. For these toilets surely if you had a problem you would not speak to the council? Surely for any problem with a loo in Asda, you would speak to Asda?

No one knows how many non domestic loos there are in this country. We know more about numbers of street lamps than loos. What I can say, is that council-run toilets numbers have been decimated. Sex, drugs, vandalism, crime, threats to cleaners safety all play a part. Toilets are vulnerable places. We have laws especially for public toilets.

You never replied to my last question btw where I gave you more facts on toilets. You can argue against reality all you like but it won’t solve anything.

Which is why he’s obviously wrong when you read the SC analysis of the EA2010

In fact in France its largely unisex facilities that dominate.

I live in France. This is totally untrue. You might find the odd toilet that consists of a cubicle a urinal & a wash basin but the overwhelming majority of toilets are strictly segregated by sex. Trying to advance your case with lies is not a good look.