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M&S Colchester claim mixed changing is ‘completely safe’ for women.

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PeachOctopus · 27/05/2026 12:31

How is it that M&S can continue to flaunt the high court ruling and do not offer single sex changing rooms?

Abouterf in this video confronts the store manager and is fobbed off and told that it’s head offices policy:

Colchester @marksandspencer I asked where the women’s changing room was to try on swimwear. Manager Andrew (he/ his /him) says gender neutral changing areas are “completely safe” for women and girls. For asking him this question, he told me to leave the store.

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TheKeatingFive · 28/05/2026 15:03

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Of course there is such a thing - see the recent SC ruling which is very clear.

Why do you think women don't deserve them?

Why do you think that people who believe in basic scientific facts are a 'radicalised gender critical cult'.

That's absolutely unhinged and highly misogynistic talk

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 15:03

HootyMcBoobys · 28/05/2026 15:01

It's not manufactured nonsense.
I can tell you that in the last year my daughter has worked in retail (first part time job as a student) that FOUR men have been caught wanking in the changing rooms. And she was handed the clothes with a big smirk by one of the men - once he left, she unfolded the clothes to find they were covered in semen.

And that's JUST her store, on HER shift. God knows how many times it happens all over the country.

Why would you allow your child to return to that environment after the first incident, if this were the case?

What is wrong with you?

Chersfrozenface · 28/05/2026 15:03

Operation Let Them Speak in cracking action today, I see.

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 15:01

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HootyMcBoobys · 28/05/2026 15:01

It's not manufactured nonsense.
I can tell you that in the last year my daughter has worked in retail (first part time job as a student) that FOUR men have been caught wanking in the changing rooms. And she was handed the clothes with a big smirk by one of the men - once he left, she unfolded the clothes to find they were covered in semen.

And that's JUST her store, on HER shift. God knows how many times it happens all over the country.

Pingponghavoc · 28/05/2026 15:00

ScribblingPixie · 28/05/2026 14:52

That letter from M&S is so disingenuous and vague - "most", "the vast majority", "usually". They need to be clear, open and 100 per cent consistent.

I thought the same.

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:59

ScribblingPixie · 28/05/2026 14:54

Safeguarding should be an entitlement, and I can't think of a single reason why a company shouldn't have an obligation to be clear, open and consistent in its policy.

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Safeguarding is another term transphobes have appropriated, without understanding what it means.

Safeguarding is for children and at risk/vulnerable adults. It's not a catch-all defence for your transphobia.

To imply m&s have a safeguarding duty to full grown adults is ridiculous.

Honestly - it's like transphobes are either completely brainwashed or incapable of individual thought and/or using Google

Chersfrozenface · 28/05/2026 14:57

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:55

This is all just wishy washy word salad manufactured panic nonsense, with no substance.

You find what you search for on the Internet, and the algorithm responds.

The videos are there. They exist.

Would you care to tell us how the came i to existence?

TheKeatingFive · 28/05/2026 14:56

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:53

Then you're radicalised and probably need a break from the Internet.

Radicalised about what?

Thinking that women's sex based rights should be respected? You think that's 'radicalised'? 🙄

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:55

Chersfrozenface · 28/05/2026 14:40

Neither I nor anyone else would be able to find this stuff if it didn't exist.

How do you think it comes into existence?

By perverts installing hidden cameras in places where women and girls are in a state of undress, downloading the video material for their own pleasure and then offering it to other perverts for viewing and downloading.

And the easiest places to instal hidden cameras are those used by both sexes, that is, mixed sex changing rooms and toilets.

We are not the perverts. The men with the cameras are the perverts.

This is all just wishy washy word salad manufactured panic nonsense, with no substance.

You find what you search for on the Internet, and the algorithm responds.

ScribblingPixie · 28/05/2026 14:54

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:52

No they don't.
Your entitlement doesn't change that.

Safeguarding should be an entitlement, and I can't think of a single reason why a company shouldn't have an obligation to be clear, open and consistent in its policy.

Pingponghavoc · 28/05/2026 14:54

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:52

I'm sorry, has voyeurism and indecent exposure only just become illegal and a concern? Or am I missing something? Who's minimising it?

You. In your deleted rant.

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:53

TheKeatingFive · 28/05/2026 14:49

I think its perfectly possible that they would do that - yes.

They wouldn't be the only ones either.

Then you're radicalised and probably need a break from the Internet.

thedramaQueen · 28/05/2026 14:53

MarmaladeorJam · 28/05/2026 14:18

He was arrogant, dismissive and actually, a very bad business person.

Why would anyone want a customer to leave without buying?

There are a million and one ways he could have handled it.

Instead, he immediately made her a "Karen" and treated her as such.

Well done her.

There are a million ways she could have complained about his attitude or behaviour publicly humiliating him is not on end of!

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:52

ScribblingPixie · 28/05/2026 14:52

That letter from M&S is so disingenuous and vague - "most", "the vast majority", "usually". They need to be clear, open and 100 per cent consistent.

No they don't.
Your entitlement doesn't change that.

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:52

Pingponghavoc · 28/05/2026 14:49

This may surprise you - but people lie on the Internet

To be fair, some people minimise to likelihood of voyeurism and indecent exposure.

I'm sorry, has voyeurism and indecent exposure only just become illegal and a concern? Or am I missing something? Who's minimising it?

ScribblingPixie · 28/05/2026 14:52

That letter from M&S is so disingenuous and vague - "most", "the vast majority", "usually". They need to be clear, open and 100 per cent consistent.

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:50

Apollo441 · 28/05/2026 14:36

So pointing you at the evidence that mixed sex changing rooms are regularly targetted by male perverts makes us some how culpable? What the f is wrong with you?

Explain to me like I'm five - what do you claim links to pornography are evidence of exactly?

Do you have any actual, reliable data that shows unisex changing is regularly targeted by men? We both know the answer to that is no. Because you are fighting a boogeyman.

Strange how many transphobes support Trump, an actual abuser, yet claim to want to protect from assault.

Pingponghavoc · 28/05/2026 14:49

This may surprise you - but people lie on the Internet

To be fair, some people minimise to likelihood of voyeurism and indecent exposure.

TheKeatingFive · 28/05/2026 14:49

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:47

This may surprise you - but people lie on the Internet!

As if m&s would be stupid enough to provide men's changing and not women's. Use your brain? Transphobes went absolutely bat shit that a trans person had the audacity to have a job in m&s. Do you really believe if what you're claiming is true, there wouldn't be absolute outrage?

I think its perfectly possible that they would do that - yes.

They wouldn't be the only ones either.

Comtesse · 28/05/2026 14:47

snoopydoopydo · 27/05/2026 15:19

This is my experience in M&S, individual, lockable cubicles and staff on hand. What about this set up would make anyone feel unsafe?

But why would men need single sex facilities then if it’s all fine? It’s the inconsistency that’s perplexing.

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:47

TheKeatingFive · 28/05/2026 14:42

To be fair, I have seen plenty of pics of M&S changing rooms labelled 'men'

This may surprise you - but people lie on the Internet!

As if m&s would be stupid enough to provide men's changing and not women's. Use your brain? Transphobes went absolutely bat shit that a trans person had the audacity to have a job in m&s. Do you really believe if what you're claiming is true, there wouldn't be absolute outrage?

TheKeatingFive · 28/05/2026 14:42

Joanneken · 28/05/2026 14:26

Look, I understand you desperately want to feel wronged somehow, but at some stage, transphobes are going to have to realise that you're gullible bullies, who believe anything you're told. Google takes two minutes.

To be fair, I have seen plenty of pics of M&S changing rooms labelled 'men'

Pingponghavoc · 28/05/2026 14:42

If they operate mixed sex changing rooms, would they stop a man wanting to try on a pair of trousers entering the changing room in the bra department?

If they dont, I think we should be made aware, however humiliating that is for the company and their colleagues.

If they do stop him, why?

Chersfrozenface · 28/05/2026 14:40

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Neither I nor anyone else would be able to find this stuff if it didn't exist.

How do you think it comes into existence?

By perverts installing hidden cameras in places where women and girls are in a state of undress, downloading the video material for their own pleasure and then offering it to other perverts for viewing and downloading.

And the easiest places to instal hidden cameras are those used by both sexes, that is, mixed sex changing rooms and toilets.

We are not the perverts. The men with the cameras are the perverts.

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