Any recommended genderist writers?

Are you using AI? So if no behaviour is exclusive to one sex or the other, and transpeople are just relying on “typical” behaviours, how do they know they are not just a GNC member of their sex? What frame of reference are they using to determine they are not the sex they are?

excluded from the phenomena of being a trad wife?

Still not getting the difference between expectations & associations……

No I'm saying that an irrational reaction to a phenomena like pretending it doesn't exist when it clearly does particularly where one feels 'excluded' can be attributed to a complex. This isn't at all controversial in psychology.

Still not getting the difference between expectations & associations……

No I'm saying that an irrational reaction to a phenomena like pretending it doesn't exist when it clearly does particularly where one feels 'excluded' can be attributed to a complex. This isn't at all controversial in psychology.

Always comes back to bog standard sexism.

Huh? Are you just typing words at random now? Are you saying I’m insecure because I’m not a Christian Tradwife? 😂😂😂😂😂😂. That’s er…. A hot take. So if women don’t act like tradwives they’re insecure and the same with men and “the manosphere”? I know lots of women who don’t uphold your “gender stereotypes”. Are they not really women? Is this why transpeople cling so desperately to these stereotypes? If I do a job typically “allocated to men”, wear no make up, have short hair and wear a men’s tee shirt, everyone would still see me immediately as a woman. If a male did the same thing, he’d be seen as the male he is. Remove gender stereotypes and there is no way for a trans person to be trans is there?

No. Stereotypes are societal expectations not societal associations. Big difference.

Gendered behaviours are typical behaviours more associated with one sex than the other. By virtue of the meaning of the word 'typical they don't have to be exclusive to one sex just more common and some are differences in consumer, employment, special interest & life choices.

particular qualities or ways of behaving which that society associates with being male, female, or another identity

Another word for qualities associated with x would be stereotypes. So I don't need to look that up.

That's ironically stereotypical….& particularly convenient for those who feel 'challenged' by expressions of typical gender associations. It's interesting that those who seem most bothered by typical behaviours are those that don't express them ….some would say thats rooted in an insecurity complex.

The fact of the matter is typical behaviours are typical because most people are inclined towards them that's proven in consumerist, employment, life & special interest choices.

For people who like to pontificate about the delusions of others they sure do like to delude themselves about the obvious differences in gendered behaviour performed by most around the globe.

And Frank Bruno and Henry Cooper did a lot of knitting. Are they then women? @EmilyinEverton can you name any gendered behaviours that most people of one sex do that hardly anyone of the other sex does? Why do gendered stereotypes determine whether someone is a man or a woman? Men in the 17th century used to wear makeup and high heels. Did this make them women?

The sex reproductive system is binary as in gamete design. Sex traits are not. Individuals may possess different combinations of chromosome type, gamete size, hormone level & morphology.

So context is important.

That's ironically stereotypical….& particularly convenient for those who feel 'challenged' by expressions of typical gender associations. It's interesting that those who seem most bothered by typical behaviours are those that don't express them ….some would say thats rooted in an insecurity complex.

The fact of the matter is typical behaviours are typical because most people are inclined towards them that's proven in consumerist, employment, life & special interest choices.

For people who like to pontificate about the delusions of others they sure do like to delude themselves about the obvious differences in gendered behaviour performed by most around the globe.

Are you suggesting that social expectations do not massively shape our behaviours?

TBH I couldn't give a flying fuck what an American dictionary says. As I'm not in America.

The Cambridge dictionary says
a group of people in a society who share particular qualities or ways of behaving which that society associates with being male, female, or another identity
And
the condition of being a member of a group of people in a society who share particular qualities or ways of behaving which that society associates with being male, female, or another identity

Which to me sounds a lot like stereotypes.
And yes, of course there are stereotypical behaviours traditionally linked to men/women. But I think those stereotypes are a load of bullshit. Liking DIY doesnt make me male in any way, shape or form. I'm a woman who likes DIY (which is apparently a male thing)

Yes. I mean, if you think about it, the only men who uphold male gender stereotypes are those of the “manosphere” such as Andrew Tate and the only women upholding female gender stereotypes are the conservative Christian tradwives. Anyone else perform a mix of both. Are you saying we should all adhere to the gender stereotypes of those two groups? Really?

I totally agree. Our craft group are doing a boycott of his (frankly derivative) patterns. What I want to know @EmilyinEverton, how he knew which sex of person would give him a baby? Why didn’t he ask a TIM? rather transphobic of him I feel.

Hang on... if knitting makes one a woman, then Tom Daley can gestate his own children in future. Instead of being a vile baby buyer!
Problem solved.

And Frank Bruno and Henry Cooper did a lot of knitting. Are they then women? @EmilyinEverton can you name any gendered behaviours that most people of one sex do that hardly anyone of the other sex does? Why do gendered stereotypes determine whether someone is a man or a woman? Men in the 17th century used to wear makeup and high heels. Did this make them women?

TBH I couldn't give a flying fuck what an American dictionary says. As I'm not in America.

The Cambridge dictionary says
a group of people in a society who share particular qualities or ways of behaving which that society associates with being male, female, or another identity
And
the condition of being a member of a group of people in a society who share particular qualities or ways of behaving which that society associates with being male, female, or another identity

Which to me sounds a lot like stereotypes.
And yes, of course there are stereotypical behaviours traditionally linked to men/women. But I think those stereotypes are a load of bullshit. Liking DIY doesnt make me male in any way, shape or form. I'm a woman who likes DIY (which is apparently a male thing)

No it doesn't. Did you even bother to look:

Gender
2
b
: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

Mem Web.

Stereotypes are social expectations. Typical gendered behaviours are those usually associated with a sex. Big difference.

Are you suggesting there are no typical behaviours more associated with one sex than the other?

No it doesn't. Did you even bother to look:

Gender
2
b
: the behavioral, cultural, or psychological traits typically associated with one sex

Mem Web.

Stereotypes are social expectations. Typical gendered behaviours are those usually associated with a sex. Big difference.

Are you suggesting there are no typical behaviours more associated with one sex than the other?