Any recommended genderist writers?

Shoulda paid for the pro plan. You just can't get the bots these days. Filled up his context and crashed.

Maybe the free trial ran out 😁

Ah, so you do understand that in some cases, those typical behaviours are strongly enforced by a patriarchal society?

I wouldn't have been killed for not wearing a school skirt, but I had no choice in the matter either - and I hated those gingham summer dresses with a passion. Other girls didn't feel strongly either way, and I'm sure some girls actively liked them - but it would all be bundled under 'typical female behaviour' even though in a majority of cases it was societally imposed.

i think his ChatGPT has crashed.

I have read them. You spent hours arguing gender was about socially constructed stereotypes and that was how people knew whether they were men or women. Now you’re pivoting to gender being “inborn”. If gender is truly inborn, like homosexuality. then all the socially constructed stereotypes in the world will not change it, but you said that people can determine their gender by observing social stereotypes.

I'm saying its upto the individual to decide if sex or gender defines them & whatever they choose is a valid identity.

And this is why we cannot use this in society.

If we need to have separate facilities and opportunities for women and men, its unworkable if the individual gets to decide on the criteria.

Two men may be identical in every way but one wants their identity to be based on their sex, the other their gender.

How can separate facilities and opportunities meet the needs of the individuals if there is nothing linking the individuals, or if two individuals have the same needs but classify themselves differently.

Ultimately, for women our needs are based on our sex, not a gender men imagine they share with us. Sex cannot disappear or be set aside for some people.

That’s not what you said. It’s identifying with ‘typical behaviours’ according to you. Or are you saying that is only the categories male and female that have associated ‘typical behaviours’? No other groups exhibit ‘typical behaviours’?

No. You need to re read my comments as you keep misinterpreting them so I won't be repeating myself.

Totally agree. It’s all sexist, regressive bollocks.

I blame that one where everyone got categorised into like 'risk takers' or 'crafters' or whatever (actually, there might be a few of those)

It's just yet more MBTI/Star signs, with a dash of predictive analytics with the hope of invading women's toilets for a wank.

I'm a woman because I like woman things. Apparently the archetypal woman doesn't get a say in whether they like those things or if they were forced/strongly encouraged to do them from birth and so whether these blokes get to declare themselves part of the group. And worse, those women who don't want to declare that they absolutely love skirts and knitting might not be part of the group at all, it depends on how long they spent naval gazing to decide if their gender or their sex is ascendant at that point in time.

It's all anti-feminist nonsense. Carefully crafted nonsense, but nonsense none-the-less

Nooo, you said gender was about social stereotypes that enabled people to identify themselves. Are you now saying it’s inborn?

Another false equivalence. Ethnicity requires cultural associations by definition. Gender is about inborn psychological associations.

I do like Liza Minnelli films and sequins.. maybe I’m actually a gay man!!! That’s what I would think if I was a sexist,homophobic bigot who believes stereotypes define people.

I mean we could do almost anything if we’re doing ‘typical behaviours’ (which are absolutely not stereotypes. Oh no). Maybe there are typical behaviours of gay men or lesbians? We can all presumably identify as either without the requirement for any same sex shenanigans? Just as long as we like musical theatre or KD Lang. (Again, absolutely not stereotypes)

I’m asking you to name some. You’re the one saying they exist. I assume you have examples?

If you need to pretend typical gendered behaviours don't exist in the face of mountains of evidence then I think we are done here.

Ethnicity then.

But being a woman or a man also requires a genetic association. If some one can self identify into those categories, why not race?

Ooh yes. I’m here for that.

False equivalence. Race by definition requires a genetic association. Gender only requires psychological & behavioural ones.

But sex is a real fact. We’ve all agreed gender is a load of sexist bollocks that is malleable. What valid associations does gender have to males and females? If gender is different for everyone, and self defined, then thst cannot be related to the words man and woman can it? If everyone’s definition of what a woman or a man is, how can anyone now they are a man or a woman?

Great. Now do it with race.

So when men are out protesting, threatening violence, breaking windows & peeing in public / pouring bottles of urine over themselves - all this is because they think they share typical behaviours with women & so should be allowed to use our toilets?

You seem to be suggesting that people should be formally categorised by gender and that sex and gender are interchangeable ways of defining identity.

I'm saying its upto the individual to decide if sex or gender defines them & whatever they choose is a valid identity.

But I don't think sex is an 'identity characteristic'. It's no more an identity characteristic than being over 18. It's just a material fact that has consequences.

Just because sex is a* *material fact that has consequences doesn't mean its a more valid identity than gender. Acknowledging gender identity doesn't diminish the societal need to address consequences. These are two separate issues.
Both an adult & a minor deserve rights but it doesn't mean they deserve to be treated the same. Rights depend on utility & practicality.

Why do you think anyone needs to be categorised by gender?

Because its just as valid as an association to man/woman as sex. Categorisations are human constructs that are based on associations to phenomena.

Or are you agreeing that it is a completely personal belief that can be ignored by everyone else?

No. By this logic one could equally ignore the personal belief that sex is a valid identity. Again, both sex & gender possess valid associations to males & females.

So what “typical” behaviours do women perform that would convince a man he’s really a woman? If you could not use any of the sexist bollocks ones that would be great.