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"Like a snowball: the growth and impact of the gender critical movement in the UK" - if you wanted a very good reason to never give Amnesty a penny, this is it. But a lot of people will read and believe.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 12:12

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/like-a-snowball/

"Over the past ten years the situation for LGBTI+ people in the UK has deteriorated. In particular there has been an organised backlash against trans people’s rights starting in 2017/18. This report maps the gender critical movement in the UK and the role of the media in normalising anti-trans rhetoric.

Our research shows that an organised gender critical movement emerged as a response to proposals to reform the Gender Recognition Act in 2017/18 and has gained huge influence in public and political discourse since then.

Between January 2020 and April 2025, media coverage of issues about trans people has been excessively high compared to the size of the trans population, their role in society, and public interest in these topics.

Four outlets examined in the research published 17,000 articles between January 2020 and April 2025, an average of 9 articles per day and ‘gender critical’ framing became common over this period of time while the voices of trans people have been almost completely absent."

Like a snowball: the growth and impact of the gender critical movement in the UK

Explores the rise of the gender critical movement in the UK, its media influence and impact on trans rights. Read the full report and technical summary.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/knowledge-hub/all-resources/like-a-snowball/

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StrictlyCoffee · 21/05/2026 14:22

Not very erudite but I have nothing much to say other than what a lot of absolute shite.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/05/2026 14:20

This is just a rehash of the tactics showcased in the Dentons report isn't it? Transactivists got used to secret privileged access to politicians, the media, organisations and business and being able to impose their niche dangerous demands on an unconsenting public. Once the appalling consequences emerged they're now subject to democratic scrutiny.

The whining is epic and enabled by far too many useful idiots.

RoyalCorgi · 21/05/2026 14:19

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 14:13

Weeeelll, I know opinions have always varied. There have been many areas/issues that AI have been criticised on by various people.

I used to think that was inevitable for an organisation working in highly contested areas and the political arena, but these days ... I wonder.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/25/gita-sahgal-amnesty-international

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/magazine/why-amnesty-international-is-calling-for-decriminalizing-sex-work.html

Good point - and all this stuff (decriminalising sex work, letting men into women's spaces) is all of a piece.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 14:14

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I think we're not far from that point, tbh.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 14:13

RoyalCorgi · 21/05/2026 13:44

I don't think they did - I think there'd have been a major scandal if they had done. Amnesty always seemed a pretty decent organisation until the trans madness took hold.

Weeeelll, I know opinions have always varied. There have been many areas/issues that AI have been criticised on by various people.

I used to think that was inevitable for an organisation working in highly contested areas and the political arena, but these days ... I wonder.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/25/gita-sahgal-amnesty-international

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/magazine/why-amnesty-international-is-calling-for-decriminalizing-sex-work.html

Gita Sahgal's dispute with Amnesty International puts human rights group in the dock

The champion of womens' rights has accused it of losing its moral compass over its association with Moazzam Begg

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/apr/25/gita-sahgal-amnesty-international

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 14:13

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:09

Qualify GC and explain that it is an ideological stance that seeks to restrict the rights of trans people held by some lobby groups.

Which rights does it seek to restrict, Amnesty?

Specifically the "rights" they are asking for are...

  • Self-ID legal recognition: the claimed right to have the state treat someone as the opposite sex by declaration, including where sex matters in law.
  • Access to women’s single-sex spaces: the claimed right for trans-identifying males to enter female-only spaces such as toilets, changing rooms, refuges, prisons, wards and sport.
  • Control over sex-based language: the claimed right not to be described by biological sex, even in legal, safeguarding, medical or political contexts.
  • Gender-affirming healthcare, including for children: the claimed right to puberty blockers, hormones or transition pathways despite weak evidence and safeguarding concerns.
  • Gender-identity education in schools: the claimed right for children to be taught contested gender ideology as fact under “inclusive RSE”.
  • Favourable media framing: the claimed right to have journalists treat gender identity claims as settled truth and frame gender-critical views as anti-rights extremism.
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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 21/05/2026 14:10

ScarlettSunset · 21/05/2026 13:49

Ok, I'll be honest, I haven't read the document.
Does it say anywhere in it how the LGB part of LGBTI+ has been negatively affected or is it all just about the T?

Sorry for the AI Analysis but it's clear:

No, not really.
The document uses “LGBTI” as a wrapper, but the actual argument is overwhelmingly about T, especially trans women, legal gender recognition, gender reassignment, gender-affirming healthcare, trans media coverage, and attitudes towards trans people.
Its own executive summary gives the game away. It says the briefing examines gender critical actors and that their objectives are “in relation to trans people”; the media analysis is about coverage “about trans people”; and it says “the voices of trans people” are absent.

Where LGB appears, it is mostly in three ways:

  1. LGB Alliance is treated as part of the problem
  2. It names LGB Alliance as one of the best-known gender-critical organisations, then later labels some groups as “so-called ‘LGB’ organisations”. That is not evidence of LGB people being harmed. It is Amnesty casting LGB sex-based advocacy as suspicious.
  3. Lesbians are mentioned only because gender-critical people raise them
  4. The report says GC actors argue that “gender ideology” pushes gender non-conforming young people, “in particular masculine lesbians”, to think they are men and transition. Amnesty does not investigate whether that concern is valid. It simply presents it as part of the GC worldview.
  5. Same-sex attraction appears as background, not harm evidence
  6. The report notes that media uses of “sex” included terms like “same”, “attraction”, “sexuality” and “gay”, but this is just corpus-analysis detail, not an argument that lesbians, gay men or bisexuals have been negatively affected by gender-critical campaigning.
The closest it gets to an LGB harm claim is very thin. It cites a general government LGBT survey saying many respondents experienced harassment or violence, but that is a broad LGBT figure, not a specific claim about the L, G or B parts being harmed by gender-critical activism. Immediately afterwards it turns back to attitudes towards trans people. So the clean answer is: No. It does not meaningfully show how lesbians, gay men or bisexuals have been negatively affected. It mostly uses “LGBTI” for moral weight, then argues almost entirely about trans rights. When actual LGB organisations appear, they are treated as enemies of the report’s preferred politics rather than as LGB people with sex-based rights and interests of their own.
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Helleofabore · 21/05/2026 14:10

They really are 'Am nasty' these days.

Just like UN women really are unwomen.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 21/05/2026 14:06

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ScarlettSunset · 21/05/2026 13:49

Ok, I'll be honest, I haven't read the document.
Does it say anywhere in it how the LGB part of LGBTI+ has been negatively affected or is it all just about the T?

RoyalCorgi · 21/05/2026 13:44

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:18

Thank you. So, Amnesty did not support PIE? Googling is not throwing up anything.

I don't think they did - I think there'd have been a major scandal if they had done. Amnesty always seemed a pretty decent organisation until the trans madness took hold.

PaterPower · 21/05/2026 13:43

“Most media reports about trans people have a negative sentiment, while trans people are hardly seen in stories. When they do appear, it is as criminals or murder victims”

That’s a very selective filter they’ve applied there. And murder victims (plural)? I can only remember one in the UK, as horrific and unjustifiable as it was.

Shortshriftandlethal · 21/05/2026 13:37

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:12

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56181084

I assume its this;

'Some of the calls to revoke Navalny's prisoner of conscience status quoted a Twitter thread by Katya Kazbek, a freelance columnist published by the pro-Kremlin channel RT amongst others. She reposted Navalny's controversial videos after his arrest in January, describing him as an "avowed racist" and accusing supporters of "whitewashing" his nationalism.
Ms Kazbek, a pseudonym, describes herself online as a "feminist, LGBT researcher, citizen of the world", but her posts include praise of Stalin and also echo Kremlin claims that Alexei Navalny is controlled by the US government.'

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Thanks for that.....though this article seems mainly to do with accusations of nationalism and racism ( rather than 'rainbow' issues). He would certainly have referred to himself as a patriot, and came from a military background

Shedmistress · 21/05/2026 13:33

Between January 2020 and April 2025, media coverage of issues about trans people has been excessively high compared to the size of the trans population, their role in society, and public interest in these topics.
and...
Most media reports about trans people have a negative sentiment, while trans people are hardly seen in stories. When they do appear, it is as criminals or murder victims.

Well, Amnesty there's a very good fucking reason why the negative reports of criminals are high compared to the size of the trans population...give yourselves another decade and you might be able to work it out.

And Amnesty there are more men who say they are women who are murderers than murder victims.

Utter twats.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:28

The report is not authored.

I'm not surprised. 😂

PickleC · 21/05/2026 13:26

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:23

'In the UK, compared to the US or some European countries, legal challenges to limit access to abortion have historically been unsuccessful. In our assessment, legal challenges to the ability to consent to gender affirming healthcare, pursued by GC actors, are not only shared by ultra conservative Christian groups but can also work as a proxy to diminish access to healthcare across the board, including abortion and contraception, by undermining ‘Gillick competence’.'

I mean, fuck you, Amnesty.

Suggesting that feminists are attempting to undermine access to abortion and contraception is absolute offensive fucking hogwash.

Spot on. This statement from them is a proper 'tell me you have no idea about feminism, the GC movement and women's groups without telling me you have no idea'.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:26

'...we consider the demands of GC actors to be the same as those of ultra conservative Christian groups.'

All this effort and a shiny report, and they are no further forward than the TRAs in 2018 accusing us of being Xtian Rightwing US fundamentalists.

If they weren't so stupid, they'd be dangerous.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:24

As a result of legal challenges by GC groups, in the UK legal gender recognition has been restricted, if not made redundant

It's not restricted. Any bloke can have a certificate to say he's a woman. It just doesn't buy him the right to use women's spaces.

Sorry, lads.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:23

'In the UK, compared to the US or some European countries, legal challenges to limit access to abortion have historically been unsuccessful. In our assessment, legal challenges to the ability to consent to gender affirming healthcare, pursued by GC actors, are not only shared by ultra conservative Christian groups but can also work as a proxy to diminish access to healthcare across the board, including abortion and contraception, by undermining ‘Gillick competence’.'

I mean, fuck you, Amnesty.

Suggesting that feminists are attempting to undermine access to abortion and contraception is absolute offensive fucking hogwash.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/05/2026 13:22

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:19

'The GC ecosystem is diverse, and while it is possible to identify groups with distinct priorities and tactics, all share broadly the same goals and appear to closely collaborate and endorse one another.'

What are those goals, Amnesty?

Can you say 'Women's rights'?

Isn’t the TRA “ecosystem” exactly the same?

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:22

'Previous Corpus Linguistics Analysis has shown a sharp growth in the amount of press coverage related to so-called ‘trans issues’38 with roughly three and a half times as many articles in 2018-19 compared to 2012. In addition to increased volume, the sentiment of the coverage was negative, with trans people increasingly described as involved in controversy, demanding or aggressive and with a propensity to be offended'

😶

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:21

'‘trans issues’ have been elevated to top political concerns for the press. The most recurring name in bigrams by far is J.K. Rowling.'

Bigly bigrams, JK! Well done, that woman.

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:19

'The GC ecosystem is diverse, and while it is possible to identify groups with distinct priorities and tactics, all share broadly the same goals and appear to closely collaborate and endorse one another.'

What are those goals, Amnesty?

Can you say 'Women's rights'?

ArabellaScott · 21/05/2026 13:18

RoyalCorgi · 21/05/2026 13:16

Amnesty International and Liberty are two separate organisations. Liberty used to be called the National Council for Civil Liberties in the 1970s.

Thank you. So, Amnesty did not support PIE? Googling is not throwing up anything.

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