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Another NHS Trust perverts the course of justice in relation to a rape case.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/05/2026 18:39

The Times report that staff at yet another NHS Trust have deliberately obstructed a police investigation into the rape of a mentally unwell young woman thinking she was a man and placed on a male mental health ward,

There are so many shocking aspects of this case, especially that the wrong man standing trial. What what stands out is that this was the result of the open refusal of staff to co operate with the police - including accidentally forwarding an internal email to the police stating "don't give them any more".

"South London and Maudsley NHS Foundation Trust said its decision to allow the victim onto the ward was in line with NHS England policy at the time. The trust apologised to police and the court over its failure to share information"

I note there's no mention of any member of staff being sanctioned for their behaviour. I suppose for Trusts who are used to ignoring / breaching the law of the land, perverting the course of justice is a minor matter.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/nhs-thwarted-inquiry-rape-trans-patient-male-ward-ph266nnrk

archive link:

archive.ph/rh9kF

NHS trust’s cover-up put innocent patient on trial for rape

Staff at South London and Maudsley withheld vital records from police after the attack on a transgender patient at a psychiatric ward

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/nhs-thwarted-inquiry-rape-trans-patient-male-ward-ph266nnrk

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borntobequiet · 20/05/2026 07:29

I’ve started a thread in AIBU, nicked the links in this OP, apologies.

borntobequiet · 20/05/2026 07:05

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/05/2026 07:00

Indeed. Presumably the BBC are on the line to their favourite drag queens before publishing anything about this.

They’re clearly not answering their phones, because it’s not anywhere to be found on the BBC website yet.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/05/2026 07:00

BreezyMintHiker · 20/05/2026 06:56

Because no matter what the issue, it’s vital to hear what men who pretend to be women have to say. Didn’t you know? 🙄😡

Indeed. Presumably the BBC are on the line to their favourite drag queens before publishing anything about this.

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GaIadriel · 20/05/2026 07:00

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2026 19:37

Just what I was going to say, a completely invalid defence as famous trials have shown.

I want all those sex is a spectrum, you are who you say you are posters to come on here and defend this - this is what happens when your bonkers ideology is allowed to run rampant, come on defend it.

All those who enabled this whether by making, implementing or acting on this supposed Policy should be facing criminal charges.

Tbf nobody should be getting raped in hospitals anyway. Even on a mixed sex ward. But I do think all the trans stuff is bonkers and healthcare is one of the areas where biological sex matters the most.

BreezyMintHiker · 20/05/2026 06:56

lcakethereforeIam · 19/05/2026 20:11

Why on earth is the Times quoting Maloney (former boxing promoter)? 'Someone with a vagina'!? Fwiw I agree with everything else he says. I hope the woman that got raped and the man who was wrongly prosecuted, because literally the lunatics were running the asylum, sue. I hope the coppers put together a file for the CPS. They should already be sacked but I bet they aren't.

Because no matter what the issue, it’s vital to hear what men who pretend to be women have to say. Didn’t you know? 🙄😡

EvelynBeatrice · 20/05/2026 06:48

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 22:20

Let’s be clear - this is some staff
Not all - many are unhappy but fearful for their jobs so keep quiet. It’s a horrible culture and not one that suggests staff are well placed to care for anyone - you can’t give what you’re not getting springs to mind…

Shame. Shame on any so called medical professional who lacks the moral backbone or integrity to take a stand where a patient is being endangered. There’s strength in numbers - if enough staff have the courage and decency to speak up things may change.

borntobequiet · 20/05/2026 06:37

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 20:21

Theyve changed it for TIFs - male wards are male only. But so far Womens wards are still gender self ID…. the Boards of these Truats need to get prosecuted for corporate H&S failure

I so hope some investigative journalist picks up on this, though I don’t hold out much of said hope.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/05/2026 06:21

Given the discussions about culture in the NHS, this other article from the Times suggests there's a problem with "claims for sexual abuse against patients and colleagues, ranging from inappropriate touching to kissing and rape, have risen by 72 per cent over the past decade"

There are numerous examples of medics returning to work despite proven allegations of rape, voyeurism and incidents of sexual abuse. All suggesting that the culture of the NHS is not only failing to protect patients & staff from predators, but the system is actually enabling them.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/doctors-hundreds-nhs-staff-accused-abuse-9cs2zskx2

https://archive.ph/WzM08

NHS forced to allow ‘rapist’ and sex pest doctors back to work

Claims of sexual misconduct have soared and led to £11m in compensation. For some an apology and 12-month suspension is all it takes to keep practising

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/healthcare/article/doctors-hundreds-nhs-staff-accused-abuse-9cs2zskx2

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HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 19/05/2026 23:35

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 22:17

This!
South London and Maudsley is the NHS Trust - SLAM for short.
Their policies were some of the worst I read across the whole of the UK

Here is the link for the historic policies (which will apply to this horrible case) if anyone is interested:
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gender_reassignment_andor_transg_67#incoming-2669171

It is clear from the 'Care and Support of Transgender and Non Binary People' document that, firstly, they absolutely knew that they were posing a danger to women and, secondly, that they felt they had legal approval from the Trust's solicitors for their policy.

CornishDaughteroftheDawn · 19/05/2026 23:21

I sincerely hope all staff complicit in this girls rape are prosecuted.

mrshoho · 19/05/2026 23:15

This is horrific. Talk about the loonies taking over the asylum. This will never happen they said. No safeguarding anywhere and then lies and coverups. Shameful.

Dotheyneverlearn · 19/05/2026 22:59

Having worked on NHS psych wards in the 90’s and 2000’s, the idea that “ We were following NHS policy" could ever be used to justify placing a biological female in a male only psych ward is absurd, seeing as staff members face the risk of being attacked never mind other patients. As a female staff member, I at least had the advantage of training and an alarm . We also used to separate by sex because a biological woman( or man) needing admission may be sexually disinhibited or classed as unable to consent due to their vulnerability , even if the man was presuming it to be a consensual situation , so it protects both men and women in that situation. CQC report from 2018 https://www.cqc.org.uk/publications/major-report/sexual-safety-mental-health-wards . And in 2024 https://rapecrisis.org.uk/news/alarming-scale-of-sexual-violence-and-abuse-on-mental-health-wards/

Sexual safety on mental health wards - Care Quality Commission

This report shares our findings and recommendations after reviewing incidents related to sexual safety on mental health wards.

https://www.cqc.org.uk/publications/major-report/sexual-safety-mental-health-wards

crazeekat · 19/05/2026 22:50

The whole nhs is corrupt. By those at the top. And the middle trying to get to the top.

moto748e · 19/05/2026 22:49

It's just horrible. Skimming through the policy Knotty linked to (first item: definition of 'cis' 🙄), this misogynistic shite is our tax dollars at work, as the Americans say? When the NHS is already on its knees?

Motnight · 19/05/2026 22:22

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2026 20:03

Absolutely.

Wonder what our new TWAW, TMAM Health Secretary will have to say about this.

He's too busy laughingly telling NHSE and DHSC colleagues that his favourite film is Clueless.

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 22:20

MrsOvertonsWindow · 19/05/2026 20:44

This again highlights how the NHS is operating in a moral and ethical vacuum. I've never got over the fact that some NHS staff wrote policy documents to enable transwomen sex offenders to be accommodated on women's wards. And many heads of Trusts signed off on them.

The attitudes towards this young women's safety and the refusal to cooperate with the police come from a deeply corrupt work environment where the normal standards of safety, acceptability and accountability have been warped.

Evidently some staff have thrived in an atmosphere where rape and corruption are enabled in the NHS.

So if we're looking at where this emenates from, that self serving whine of a statement from the Trust suggests that these behaviours have been enabled from the very top.
Edited to add that I resent having to see any staff in the NHS in this way - but when an organisation shows us who they really are, we need to start believing them.....

Edited

Let’s be clear - this is some staff
Not all - many are unhappy but fearful for their jobs so keep quiet. It’s a horrible culture and not one that suggests staff are well placed to care for anyone - you can’t give what you’re not getting springs to mind…

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 22:17

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2026 21:51

causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion is first on the list

The NHS have covered four more on that list Henrietta, there absolutely has to be a prosecution in this case, let's see if the Police, CPS, Health Secretary are going to call for one.

This!
South London and Maudsley is the NHS Trust - SLAM for short.
Their policies were some of the worst I read across the whole of the UK

Here is the link for the historic policies (which will apply to this horrible case) if anyone is interested:
www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/gender_reassignment_andor_transg_67#incoming-2669171

KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 22:14

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Having to read the policies one after another, I began to feel rather ill. The misogyny dripped off the page - it was horrible. I'm usually as sort of battle-axe kind of character but one morning I ended up bursting into tears having had to absorb it all. And I don't even work in the NHS?! It was ridiculous but I just couldn't get over how much they must hate women to write all this crap down

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2026 21:51

causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion is first on the list

The NHS have covered four more on that list Henrietta, there absolutely has to be a prosecution in this case, let's see if the Police, CPS, Health Secretary are going to call for one.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 19/05/2026 21:36

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KnottyAuty · 19/05/2026 21:29

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Yep - but now that they admit they can administer a policy based on sex no problem for males…. Slippery slope….

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 19/05/2026 21:24

From the CPS:

Some examples of what may amount to a charge of perverting the course of justice include:

  • causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion;
  • materially affecting proceedings e.g. obtaining bail when it might not have been obtained, receiving a sentence which might not otherwise have been passed;
  • persuading, or attempting to persuade, by intimidation, harm or otherwise, a witness not to give evidence, to alter their evidence or to give false evidence
  • interference with jurors with a view to influencing their verdict;
  • false alibis and interference with evidence or exhibits;
  • giving false information, or agreeing to give false information, to the police with a view to frustrating a police inquiry; for example, lying as to who was driving when a road traffic accident occurred;
  • lending a driving licence to another to produce to the police following a notice to produce, thereby avoiding an offence of driving whilst disqualified being discovered;
  • agreeing to give false evidence;
  • concealing or destroying evidence or providing a false alibi;
  • assisting others to evade arrest for a significant period of time.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/prosecution-guidance/public-justice-offences

causing a person to be arrested or to fall under suspicion is first on the list

Public Justice Offences | The Crown Prosecution Service

https://www.cps.gov.uk/prosecution-guidance/public-justice-offences

DworkinWasRight · 19/05/2026 21:22

They knew exactly what would happen when they put a woman in a ward full of men. They can’t possibly not have known. So these staff - people we trust to look after the most vulnerable - knowingly facilitated the rape of a young woman. Not only that, they then wilfully obstructed the efforts of the police to investigate it.

GailBlancheViola · 19/05/2026 21:10

Despite the number of women working in and using the NHS there is deep seated, utterly damaging misogyny running rife within it.

The number and frequency of scandals surrounding women's health, particularly in maternity, speaks volumes.

Now the NHS is facilitating rape by their slavish adherence to gender ideology and covering it up.

There are serious problems within this institution.

moto748e · 19/05/2026 21:02

Just when think they can't get any worse, another NHS Trust says, hold my beer. Absolutely appalling, and should surely mean jail time for some at that hospital.