Gender Critical guy - How can I help the cause?

Did you not like me pointing out that you didn't really care until you had a daughter, even though you said it yourself?

"...after the birth of my daughter. I simply got to the point where I couldn't ignore the craziness..."

If you just want praise for joining in, then you still don't really get it. That's fine, we all had to reach the peak, but maybe don't act otherwise.

you need to make male spaces welcoming to transwomen

eg- sticker in men's toilets- 'transwomen welcome here' 'transwomen safe here'

talk with other MEN about how to do this

obviously challenge misogyny in any form from other men

engage with all the men who think the correct opinion is TWAW etc, create the space for them to really think about what that means- not just to women but to gay boys and men

@MyShyCat You have twice been rude to respected FWR women on this thread. Please stop posting and re-read the thread.

I’m a survivor of a rape so violent that the police categorised it as attempted murder. I can’t describe it on here as it’s deleted on the grounds that it’s too upsetting for others to read. He raped me vaginally, orally and attempted to anally rape me. He also assaulted me. And did other things that, as I said, I can’t describe.

Your entitlement is showing.

Do your own leg work. Women arent support humans.

I can assure you I am female.

Why do women have to do the work for you? can’t you figure it out for yourself?

I thought exactly the same. She’s not being told about the reality of other people’s experience. So many women deny their reality of being regularly groped.

Well ain’t you the lucky one?

After discussing with a group of women of whom quite a few said they hadn’t been sexually assaulted, it became clear that the meaning of the phrase is rather a grey area.

A lot of them thought sexual assault just meant rape, when in fact it covers a multitude of actions (and once that was cleared up, it was a case of “I had that one boyfriend who forced me to do….”there was a guy in the pub who…” “there was that time when I was in a club and that guy” etc etc)

Tatzoy is a lovely long term poster here

you must know mumsnet is reputed to be a next of vipers and FWR the vipiest of it all!!

the emails to the gym sound a very good practical action

What bollox. All the accusations you make against so called cis men are exactly as relevant to men with trans identities. Everything you do to support women and girls is useless if you don’t excluded trans identified men and boys from the women and girls category.

Make women’s prisons safer? Get men with trans identities out of them.
Make women’s sports more inclusive? Get men with trans identities out of them.
Improve women’s healthcare? Focus on and treat women’s health without including men’s health.

It’s so obvious, but you choose not to see because it’s inconvenient to you. Well guess what, I have trans ID’d family members too, and they’d be a whole lot safer without people like you pushing trans ideology.

'Transwomen' think women are a costume they can wear. They do not like or respect women. Women are adult human females. No man can be a woman.

Of course people pay more attention to men! This has always been a problem. We might wish it wasn’t true but it is. While we work on the problem of getting people to listen to women we may as well take advantage of the male voices speaking up in support of us.

I'd agree with all these and add - write to your mp - repeatedly.

It's really important that men get involved in this and don't just think it's a women's thing. The more voices, the better.

Look at your internalised attitudes mate.

wnats the relevance of you being a man? Do you not have the ability to google? Do you think people will pay you more attention or something if you campaign because behold a man?

Good to have you on board. In addition to the helpful suggestions above are you aware that women speaking out in the workplace seem to face much harsher reactions than men? It would be great if you could keep speaking up in meetings, training and discussions to express concerns and remind people of the law. The more voices on this the more likely are daughters will be safe.
most important for your daughter is to tell her that her rights and boundaries matter and it is not unkind to maintain those boundaries. Also stick to referring to people by their biology as it makes the truth of what is happening in any situation much more obvious.

@TransParentlyAnnoyedI hate to break your entirely made up statistics, but I’ve never been sexually assaulted. And I know far more women who haven’t than have.

OP, are you a member of any teachers union? If so could you think about standing for election for a union post or joining some committees.

There is no such thing as a “cis man”. He’s a man, other men are men, “trans women” are all men. Hope that helps.

This is just a pile of slogans pretending to be an argument.

ok, so I now need this on a Tshirt!

SSSIS, I'll borrow this, if you don't mind, as a shortcut next time someone comes out with the predictable lines of drivel.

(and the next time we both likely get deleted!)

OP, sorry for the me-rail. I hope you find your path in this ridiculous fight we've had to join in order to protect our children.

• very few trans people do sport

😂PMSL at this being offered as an "argument". The figures don't matter. One is too many. NO MEN IN WOMEN'S SPORT.

We need more men to speak up. Other men listen to men more than they’re listen to women, sad but true. So tell your friends and get them to join in too.

go to a meet up. There’s one outside the Australian embassy on Saturday can make it to London. People are friendly and F2F is much better than online