I transitioned into a man - then changed my mind. Now the trans 'cult' that groomed me into changing sex has hounded me out of TWO cities

Which probably has more to say about the mental health of many trans / de trans people than anything else.

When you feel disconnected from your immediate family/ cohort because you have mental health issues, or are autistic, or anxious, or angry, or have an eating disorder, or are confused about your sexuality it is all too easy to throw your lot in with loud people who shout out quick fix slogans without looking further into their motivation. Letting other people do your thinking for you is a common way of getting drawn into cults, online grooming, trans ideology, right wing pressure groups, quasi religious organisations and the rest.

If you then wake up and smell the coffee you have to extricate yourself not only from the ideology but from the social bonds you have made within the group, often at the cost of isolating you from other social groups like family or former friends. It takes a mentally strong person to do that, and I can understand why the temptation to fall in with another extreme group on the journey back to mental health must be very strong.

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Now now, don't let facts and reality get in the way of an omnicauser's rants against women for wrong think. 😁

Please 24% of the world's population are Muslim so there are simply going to be very bad people in the group by sheer force of numbers.

If you'd like to analyse the situation seriously, rather than trade anecdotes and counter anecdotes then maybe consider a perspective like the following:

The deeper structural argument

Oil created a peculiar dynamic: the most theologically conservative Muslim states happened to be the most financially powerful. In most of history, religious reform spreads from centers of cultural dynamism. After 1973, the center of Islamic financial gravity shifted to the Gulf, so Gulf conservatism — rather than, say, Egyptian or Turkish Islamic thought — got exported disproportionately.
This helps explain why global Islamic practice became measurably more conservative between 1970 and 2000: more veiling, stricter gender segregation, more literalist interpretation — not because these were organically spreading ideas, but because they had institutional money behind them.
The connection is less a conspiracy than a structural consequence: sudden wealth + theological self-confidence + geopolitical ambition = a globally funded religious revival shaped in Saudi Arabia's image.

This, by @MohavePenstemon is such an important observation:

This might shock some people, but calling someone a RW grifter who looks like a man while they're still struggling with themselves and refusing to listen to them only gives them the very few support systems.

It hasn't so much shocked me as made me realise I never thought of it this way.

😂

But in all seriousness, this is why the 'both sides' narrative is such a disingenuous lie.

A Terf fatwa. As we very well know, involves a sniff, and in the most serious cases, a Hard Stare. In 2023 there were reports of teeth sucking, but I've not seen credible evidence.

Not sure what "cult" you are referring to but Islam and transactivism have in common an appalling attitude towards and treatment of apostates.

There are extreme examples, such as that of Salman Rushdie who has had a Fatwa to kill him since publishing The Satanic Verses in 1989. in 1991 Hitoshi Igarashi, the Japanese translator of The Satanic Verses was assassinated as part of the Fatwa. Rushdie has needed constant close security and survived being stabbed in 2022.

Less extreme, Lubna Zaidi has had to leave her home town of Luton and go into hiding due to credible death and rape threats to her and her children from other Muslims. This was because she dared to call out the "bad apples" in the Muslim "community" in the UK.

The Sceptic | Episode 47: The British-Pakistani Woman Getting Death Threats for Calling Out Rape Gangs, Migrant “Sanctuary Cities” and Debating a Green Loon
dailysceptic.org/2025/08/22/the-sceptic-episode-47-the-british-pakistani-woman-getting-death-threats-for-calling-out-rape-gangs-migrant-sanctuary-cities-and-debating-a-green-loon/

Similarly, Philippa received death threats and had to leave London and then Norwich after questioning the holy creed of trans.

By contrast, on the very rare occasions when someone with gender critical / sex realist views has a brain fart and goes all TWAW, the reaction might be disappointment but it is not some sort of TERF Fatwa.

No death threats, no rape threats, no telling people to kill themselves, no denouncing people to their employers, no trashing businesses with fake reviews, no harassing their families, partners and friends, etc. etc.

It is not gender critical / sex realists who display cult-like behaviour.

She did this after four years of abuse from the adherents of the cult she'd left.

Four years of being hounded, four years of threats of violence which destroyed her relationship and her livelihood and forced her to move across the country.

And now some of those cultists are on here full of hatred and spreading more lies about her. Poor woman.

she was ousted from the trans community for sharing extremist right wing views, not for detransitioning.

The shunning, threats and harassment she describes started in 2022 and started up again in 2025, based on what she had posted in 2022 being deemed to be "transphobic". Nothing to do with whatever political views she held at the time - these are not mentioned.

It was only after she was hounded again in 2025 that "Philippa threw herself into the networks she had been building since meeting Keen-Minshull.".

The article says that she "now aligns herself with Keen-Minshull’s politics.", ie, in 2026.

"In autumn 2022, Philippa attended an LWS event at Hyde Park. Electrified, she later joined them in the pub. Keen-Minshull told her, ‘You need to get well’.

The experience galvanised her. The next month she posted on Instagram, noting the Cambridge Dictionary had expanded its definition of ‘woman’ to include ‘an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been considered to have a different sex at birth’. Philippa said if biological men could be women, there was no point being transgender. Why try to change your sex or gender identity if you already are that identity by definition? ‘I knew there’d be a backlash,’ says Philippa. There was. Her followers initially assumed her account had been hacked. Then, she says, accusations of transphobia began to fly. People were told not to read what she was posting. In the words of one post, it was ‘dangerous’. She lost thousands of followers.

As the abuse magnified, her tattooist work evaporated. Then things became more sinister. She says trans activists went after her girlfriend (who Philippa won’t name), texting and calling her, harassing her constantly. ‘They couldn’t get to me,’ says Philippa. ‘So they went for everyone around me. They wanted maximal damage, mental and financial. They were prepared to do anything to get to me, and it worked, which is what I hate the most.’ The two have since split up.

Philippa worried that if her address was discovered, she could be at risk of violence – she had received enough threatening social-media messages to feel unsafe. So, in 2023, she wiped her public Instagram account and moved to Norwich. She dropped the name Caspar for the more gender-neutral Robin and re-adopted female pronouns. She also shaved her beard – which meant coming to terms with her masculine jawline, another effect of testosterone.

After two years keeping a low profile, working minimum-wage jobs, Philippa rented space in a tattoo studio in the city centre. She felt the storm had blown over and wanted to earn proper money again, doing what she loved. She finished her first day happy, feeling she had turned a corner. But as she walked home, a fellow tattooist texted her. She had been sent screenshots of what Philippa had posted in 2022. The posts were being circulated around the Norwich LGBTQ+ scene. The dogpiling restarted. The studio owners told Philippa she was not welcome back.

Angry, Philippa threw herself into the networks she had been building since meeting Keen-Minshull. She left behind the progressive thinking that told her she could change sex and now aligns herself with Keen-Minshull’s politics."

Since you know so much about it, back up your claims by providing evidence that "she was ousted from the trans community for sharing extremist right wing views, not for detransitioning." because the time-line suggests otherwise.

On X, she recently retweeted Keen-Minshull’s statement, ‘Islam is incompatible with women’s rights’, and caused a stir while being photographed for this piece, when she announced she would be attending Tommy Robinson’s Unite The Kingdom rally in London.

So she joined another cult then

Thank you, you're very kind.

Do we get to do this whenever another prominent online TRA gets arrested for a sex crime, or does it just apply to tangentially related people who disagree with you?

Trans activists support allowing kids to have bodily autonomy, and so do conservatives in America who think the best place for a teen girl is pregnant in her husband's kitchen. That means y'all are in cahoots, right?

Oh, Iran has a lot of gender transition surgeries, so they must be funded by the same people who donate to LGBTQIA+ charities, because agree about a topic, right?

What about the hairy-legged radical feminists who tirelessly advocate for reproductive rights and Matt Freaking Walsh, they must be ideologically identical bedfellows.

What an easy, lazy, unempathetic, intellectually and morally uncurious way of viewing the world.

These detransitioners really push TRA buttons, don't they? Do I hear carefully constructed, but ultimately futile, narratives being shattered by these brave women and men?

The GC movement and the far right caught kissing behind the bike shed once again.

Colour me shocked.

The anti women brigade will throw anything they can at women who speak about reality and stand up for safeguarding the young, along with those who speak about the harm transitioning has done. Look at what's thrown at all those courageous women and men in the NHS, the civil service, universities (any of the recent court cases / tribunals will do) by supporters of such an intolerant, McCarthyist cult

Women have been discussing our political differences for generations. Andrea Dworkin said that:
“Feminism is a political practice of fighting male supremacy on behalf of women as a class, including all the women you don’t like, including all the women you don’t want to be around, including all the women who use to be your best friends whom you don’t want anything to do with any more. It doesn’t matter who the individual women are.” -

And of course, in the Female Eunuch, Germaine Greer summed up what we see played out on this thread and so many others on here::
"Women have very little idea of how much men hate them"

More power to you. I hope you are doing better and have a good support system around you.

Plenty people here are happy to listen if you need it, and we're not really that bad even though people say that we are the viper pit hyenas from hell.

"Right wing women are women." ~ KJK

This woman deserves women's rights and women-only spaces. Her political opinions and who she associates with don't alter that.

It looks like she fell in with the far-right after questioning the genderist narrative and hence being excommunicated from what she thought had been her community. Another case of "the left abandoned me".

Great post @MohavePenstemon
I’m sorry for what you’ve gone through.

Interesting to see TRAs still hounding this brave woman through insinuations and smears on MN. We see you.

For starters, right wing trans people exist - to take two very different examples : fascist Della Aleksander and the Margaret Thatcher fan and former UKIP MEP Nikki Sinclaire.

So, a particular attitude around trans is not a defining property of being right/left wing or not.

The issues around child and young adult transition - I don't think can be reduced to a simple right wing / left wing dichotomy either. I'm not any kind of expert around trans issues in general, and especially not regarding young people. So I wouldn't want to issue any kind of pronouncement about what young people, their families and the professionals either should or should not be doing.

However the specific political areas that I personally have a problem are alluded to in the following paragraphs

" Angry, Philippa threw herself into the networks she had been building since meeting Keen-Minshull. She left behind the progressive thinking that told her she could change sex and now aligns herself with Keen-Minshull’s politics.

On X, she recently retweeted Keen-Minshull’s statement, ‘Islam is incompatible with women’s rights’, and caused a stir while being photographed for this piece, when she announced she would be attending Tommy Robinson’s Unite The Kingdom rally in London. "

So by choosing to attend a rally organised by a known rabble rouser and habitual criminal - yes I'd be prepared to describe that as working with the morally unacceptable face of the far right.

It would help if you were more truthful yourself. This is what the article says about why the genderists turned on her:

she posted on Instagram, noting the Cambridge Dictionary had expanded its definition of ‘woman’ to include ‘an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been considered to have a different sex at birth’. Philippa said if biological men could be women, there was no point being transgender. Why try to change your sex or gender identity if you already are that identity by definition? ‘I knew there’d be a backlash,’ says Philippa. There was. Her followers initially assumed her account had been hacked. Then, she says, accusations of transphobia began to fly. People were told not to read what she was posting. In the words of one post, it was ‘dangerous’.

Or if you stand by your comment, can you explain how this is a 'right wing view'?

Is it that questioning the trans narrative automatically makes you 'right wing'? What do you think 'right wing' means?

Wow people really do strategically use deletions on this site.
Just going to leave this here - much briefer this time. One can't insist on the significance of the law for everyone else while not calling out those who affiliate with lawbreakers themselves. There may be a tragic backstory - which may explain but not excuse the affiliation.

Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who calls himself “Tommy Robinson,” has multiple criminal convictions including assault, mortgage fraud, contempt of court, harassment, and passport fraud offences. He has served several prison sentences and has repeatedly been involved in legal cases linked to public order incidents and breaches of court restrictions.

This might shock some people, but calling someone a RW grifter who looks like a man while they're still struggling with themselves and refusing to listen to them only gives them the very few support systems.

People are fucking vile when you detransition, especially if you're FTM, it's disgusting and leaves you feeling like your skin's been scoured off your body by the people who draped it over your shoulders. You're left naked and ridiculed for the gentlest push back, and the only people who WILL listen are those with an agenda.

This is entirely a problem of their own making. Stop responding to dentransitioners as problems to be shut up, accept they didn't exist when gatekeeping medicalization of trans care occurred, and they'll stop turning to the only people listening to them.

You lose EVERYONE when you express the slightest doubt. You have to apologize and apologize and apologize and you're still dunked on by mental toddlers who mock you with idiot silly hurhur memes, and have zero medical or mental health care. ZERO. As in get ready to be fired as a patient and have NO ONE who knows what to do about your body.

You and people like you did this. You are the radicalizing agents.

I was fired as a patient for not wanting to medicalize. In a delicate and uncomfortable mental health situation that I knew HRT wouldn't help, and starting to question things. When I expressed this, I was told, explicitly, that I would kill myself and the clinic made me sign papers stating that I wouldn't, despite never expressing suicidality.

Indeed, and the whole story is disingenuous - she was ousted from the trans community for sharing extremist right wing views, not for detransitioning. But of course that wouldn't serve the narrative so it's glossed over.