US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

Guess she can play the ‘identify as’ card too.

Funnily enough there’s been no mention of anything other than breast augmentation or loose skin reduction type procedures for women on Channel 4.

gript.ie/what-the-irish-times-didnt-tell-you-about-dr-sidhbh-gallagher/

OK, there's the town in Lincolnshire, but that's not where Gallagher comes from.

Oh, if we’re only able to pontificate on those things we have “lived experience” in, I presume you’re excluding yourself from any discussion on women and women’s issues?

Brits? I didn't know Louth was in Britain.

We have first hand experience of being women.

Enough said.

@FireBucketthe only way you get tiny numbers of detransitioners is to follow the rather disingenuous TRA definition which would exclude even Keira Bell from its numbers despite the fact she stopped taking testosterone and sued the Tavistock for what they had done to her. If you don’t want to use pre-2010 studies that consistently see the vast majority desist then I recommend the recently published Finnish study. I’m afraid I’m not techie enough to provide a link but, remarkably, it covered every single child ever seen by their children’s gender services and followed them for the full duration. No sampling. No abbreviated temporal windows. Everyone. Long term. You really don’t get better than that. That’s beyond gold standard. The majority of both sexes in every age group desisted or detransitioned. From a high of (I think) 72% for young teenage girls to the lowest figure of 51% for older boys. And this at a time when every group, internet forum and school was supporting transition.

If you want me to move from rigorous study to anecdote, in my small cul-de-sac we have two desisters. I wish this were not so common but it is. It was a virulent contagion that damaged many children. In the USA the insurance companies that funded pro-trans operations refuse medication and surgeries to reverse the damage. I fear this hospital will not struggle for patients.

Jeez, I thought I recognised the name.

She’s currently being featured on Channel 4’s programme about Brits living in Florida. She’s shown as running a plastic surgery clinic with her sister.

I have first-hand experience in what I responded to, for the most part. Unlike those contributing solely with a genuinely held belief about trans people.

Yes, whatever. You post about exactly the same thing over and over again on every single thread you post on. Don't you ever get tired of being so boring?

Dr Sidhbh Gallagher (the yeet your teets monster) seemed to be able to practise without malpractice insurance. I think she's in Florida

I think "somebody" here is initiating a "meta discussion" about "who should be able to participate" in "discussion of topics" already being discussed in "this thread."

A non-zero percentage of people have progressed through and complete puberty never being able to reproduce. Are you saying they never experience puberty?

Unless I read the summaries wrong, it implies by omission that those taking testosterone were not below 0. It would also make sense that an adolescent blocking their puberty would have a lower bone density than those of their 'sex' and age undergoing an uninterrupted puberty.

But, it mentioned 'same sex' as the baseline, so I am assuming it is comparing trans boys to girls and trans girls to boys. A trans girl's bone density developing under oestrogen would be less dense than a typical boy's under testosterone. It didn't say if the density was similar or lower than a non-trans girl's.

I'm not saying puberty blockers aren't a danger, especially as the prescription length increases. But I think it would probably be more useful to provide a complete picture, maybe with a followup 10-years beyond to gauge permanent impact.

I think "somebody" is here either to try to derail, or to try to insert themselves into the conversation, thereby somehow making themselves "relevant." The thread soon will no longer be about the Texas detransitioner clinic, if posters are not careful.

Just saying. Maybe the discussion has run its course anyway.

It’s completely disingenuous to keep blabbing on about how one part of the ‘treatment’ given to trans-identifying children doesn’t cause osteoporosis, when you know perfectly well that another part does.

The appalling levels of osteoporosis in children given puberty blockers were a big reason for Sweden banning this form of child abuse.

There is no ambiguity in which sexed puberty I experienced.

Puberty is the process of reaching sexual maturity, when a child becomes an adult who is able to reproduce. You can only experience the puberty which corresponds to your biological sex.

Yes.

Longer treatment with puberty-delaying medication in transgender youth leads to lower bone mineral density
https://www.endocrine.org/news-and-advocacy/news-room/2022/longer-treatment-with-puberty-delaying-medication-leads-to-lower-bone-mineral-density

The Tavistock’s experimentation with puberty blockers: the effects on bone density
https://www.transgendertrend.com/puberty-blockers-effects-bone-density/

I started cross-sex hormones early enough in my puberty to make a substantial impact. I was never on blockers. Oestrogen-therapy alone suppressed my testosterone level to a very low level.

My puberty progressed naturally, based on how my DNA specified my oestrogen receptors to respond to once it was sufficiently supplied in my body. There is no ambiguity in which sexed puberty I experienced.

I am currently being followed in an osteoporosis clinic because I am osteopenic. Likely caused by some combination of a pre-transition eating disorder and ignoring my need for HRT for a few years in my 30s.

I think a bone density study of adult trans people who received puberty blockers before the initiation of HRT would be valuable. Maybe it will be done one day.

For someome that claims to care about not spreading mis information your ok spreading it.

You're probably right... Let's hope someone is keeping an eye on their activities!

They can probably still practice in Texas. I don't see anything in any of the articles or the AG press release that says their licenses have been suspended and I'm sure Texas AG Ken Paxton would be touting that if it were true. He's a politician and it would play well to many. Per Google, there are 766 hospitals in Texas.

If they can't get malpractice insurance, that would be a problem for them, as you said.

She didn't flash her pubes, she flashed a merkin.
I saw the video at the time.

ETA, sorry, just noticed that someone else had said the same.

You only have to read the article about Philippa Roberts to see what happens to detransitioners.

Link for anyone who missed it earlier in the thread.
I transitioned into a man - then changed my mind. Now the trans 'cult' that groomed me into changing sex has hounded me out of TWO cities | Daily Mail Online

This is what happened to her.

...she posted on Instagram, noting the Cambridge Dictionary had expanded its definition of ‘woman’ to include ‘an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been considered to have a different sex at birth’. Philippa said if biological men could be women, there was no point being transgender. Why try to change your sex or gender identity if you already are that identity by definition? ‘I knew there’d be a backlash,’ says Philippa. There was. Her followers initially assumed her account had been hacked. Then, she says, accusations of transphobia began to fly. People were told not to read what she was posting. In the words of one post, it was ‘dangerous’. She lost thousands of followers.

As the abuse magnified, her tattooist work evaporated. Then things became more sinister. She says trans activists went after her girlfriend (who Philippa won’t name), texting and calling her, harassing her constantly. ‘They couldn’t get to me,’ says Philippa. ‘So they went for everyone around me. They wanted maximal damage, mental and financial. They were prepared to do anything to get to me, and it worked, which is what I hate the most.’ The two have since split up.

Philippa worried that if her address was discovered, she could be at risk of violence – she had received enough threatening social-media messages to feel unsafe.

Those wanting to detransition need to be very resilient in order to escape the cult (this is the term used by the DM). Instead of denying that these people exist, shouldn't you be supporting them to 'be who they truly are' @FireBucket? It's people like you denying their existence, and some who even hound them and threaten them (I hope you wouldn't be part of that lynch mob) which keeps them hidden. Also the lack of medical support for detransitioners, but hopefully this clinic is just the first of many which will be around to support them.

Elaine Miller is the person who flashed her pubes at Holyrood during a debate about the gender recognition

Ouch, fact checked. 😂

Are you thinking of another Elaine Miller? This Elaine Miller certainly flashed a pubic wig in the Scottish Parliament during a debate on the Gender Recognition Reform (Scotland) Bill.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elaine_Miller