US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

What do you want to be called?

What do you want to be called?

And, does FWR believe itself to represent the entire sex realist/gender critical 'group?' Posters seem to share the same beliefs, even when they are laughably inaccurate.

Dear god!
We aren’t even allowed to be GC now.

I use it because some posters here identify with it. I use it because I identify as somewhat gender critical and as a group "gender criticals" doesn't say much about the motivations of members.

Also, it aligns philosophically somewhat in parallel with those I've seen identify with the term 'race realist.'

it's really weird that you use the term "sex realist" as if it's an insult

This is another sex realist belief. Except, with progesterone use trans women do develop milk-producing lobules.

Unlike men in your example, trans women could lose fat and glandular tissue would remain unaffected.

Yes, very familiar user name and history!

Thats what I mean though- men do have breasts of sort. But they’re not like women’s with milk ducts
And yes exactly men can get breast cancer.

If a man gets over weight his chest will get bigger. No different to a man taking drugs to get the same effect. Just more fat in that area. They haven’t gone through women’s puberty.

Remember ladies, you're only a woman if others tell you you are.

Men do have latent breast tissue, which can grow when exposed to oestrogen, TiMs who take female hormones do develop ‘breasts’ which potentially could lactate, they aren’t just “lumps of fatty tissue”. I’m not saying TiMs should try to breastfeed, but they do have breast tissue, because all men do, that’s why they should check for lumps as men can get breast cancer too.

I think "somebody" is here either to try to derail, or to try to insert themselves into the conversation, thereby somehow making themselves "relevant." The thread soon will no longer be about the Texas detransitioner clinic, if posters are not careful.

Just saying. Maybe the discussion has run its course anyway.

Remember ladies, you're only a woman if others tell you you are.

According to this study, the East German athletes who were doped with steroids (i.e. testosterone) against their knowledge went on to develop significant bone health issues.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39653949/

So please do tell them that they are fine as well @FireBucket

What the Cass review actually said was there was "moderate-quality evidence that bone density and height may be compromised during treatment [with puberty blockers]", but it found no evidence treatment with PBs cause long term adult osteoporosis, and it also cited research which shows bone density fully recovers when puberty blockers are stopped and puberty commences, whether that's naturally or via gender affirming hormones.

Stop spreading scaremongering misinformation.

Oh, if we’re only able to pontificate on those things we have “lived experience” in, I presume you’re excluding yourself from any discussion on women and women’s issues?

Of note is that this has been court ordered by an ideologically driven Trumpist attorney general, not instituted due to any evidence of need - check back in a few years to see how many patients this clinic has actually seen.

Well yes and not lactating ones. Just fatty tissue. Which men have anyway.

Not this wank again. You didn’t experience female puberty, you grew some breasts due to taking a ton of oestrogen.

Tell that to @Secretseverywhere and @endofagain because they certainly were.

I think "somebody" is here either to try to derail, or to try to insert themselves into the conversation, thereby somehow making themselves "relevant." The thread soon will no longer be about the Texas detransitioner clinic, if posters are not careful.

Just saying. Maybe the discussion has run its course anyway.

I started cross-sex hormones early enough in my puberty to make a substantial impact. I was never on blockers. Oestrogen-therapy alone suppressed my testosterone level to a very low level.

My puberty progressed naturally, based on how my DNA specified my oestrogen receptors to respond to once it was sufficiently supplied in my body. There is no ambiguity in which sexed puberty I experienced.

I am currently being followed in an osteoporosis clinic because I am osteopenic. Likely caused by some combination of a pre-transition eating disorder and ignoring my need for HRT for a few years in my 30s.

I think a bone density study of adult trans people who received puberty blockers before the initiation of HRT would be valuable. Maybe it will be done one day.