US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

Fair, maybe. There are a lot of 'huge and false' uncritically held beliefs here on FWR.

If they aren't real why do even you call them 'sex realist'?

The clue is in the word after 'sex' in 'sex realist'.

And you say it as if it is a slur.

translates as: "I am entitled to make huge and false generalisations about a group of people I don't like, but I shall get offended if they make huge and false generalisations about trans people"

The more stories of detransition, post mutilation misery, infertility etc we can share to young impressionable people the better

Sex realists genuinely celebrate the opportunity to wallow in other people's grief and anger.

sex realist beliefs are not real

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love it

Ignoring the personal attack, sex realist beliefs are not real.

And yes, detransitioners have a right to have strong feelings about what they have experienced and the providers of medical care they feel was misapplied. But their feelings and experiences don't invalidate the feelings and experiences of people who positively respond to trans healthcare and live productive happy lives post-transition.

Detransitioners have existed as long as there have been people transitioning. I knew two, slightly older than me, when I was transitioning.

They're not only young though, they can be any age and at any stage during or post transition (Philosophically, I don't know if someone can be through and done transition if they detransition? Maybe?)

Detransitioners were rare because transitioning was rare. There were a lot of barriers in place to realistically prepare someone to live a visibly trans life in a homophobic world.

Before the internet, detransitioners were a tale of caution. Trans people early in transition paid a lot of attention to them because they were messengers from the cruel future. Of being disowned and mocked by family. Of job loss and unemployability. Of physical violence. There was respect of choices and mutual acknowledgement of difficult decisions made.

The major difference now vs then is some detransitioners have allowed their experience to be weaponised against trans people. Trans people have a right to maintain strong feelings about all people participating in the harm of trans people, including detransitioners.

Away from the boringly predictable merailing, it's great that psychologically and physically damaged young people finally have some specialist attention. Hopefully decent records will be kept and surgical outcomes improved.

The sex realist agenda didn't exist in the 80s and 90s...or the 00s, for that matter.

Trans-sex, trans-age no boundaries nothing matters.

Heck trans racial and trans diability.

polypostwonder has poly status's.

You didn't change sex anywhere in the world. It not being possible.

Transubstantiation of the flesh hasn't been yet evidenced.

I am not a minor. I transitioned as a minor. These two statements can co-exist outside of sex realist belief.

I didn't change sex in the UK. Or Europe for that matter. My life and family were well established before we moved here.

I would probably have to transition to male to affect any documents here.

During this growth stage, testosterone was not male levels and oestrogen was at female levels. But facts never got in the way of a good sex realist yarn.

You can accuse me of derailing threads, but there were more than a dozen posts including this one following my last post, meta-dialoging about me in that FWR passive-aggressive cliquey tone.

You said the exact thing last month during one of the trademark FWR passive aggressive meta-dialoging sessions. Here is my response to that. Advanced Search is your friend.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5515170-is-there-any-concern-among-trans-rights-activists-for-the-health-wellbeing-of-adolescents-receiving-gender-affirming-drugs-that-the-findings-of-the-finnish-study-might-be-true?page=11&reply=151667339

And he might be 5'5"or 5'4" or, possibly 5'3". He has been different heights on different threads. I don't know but I am absolutely convinced that he is a woman /s

Odd is an understatement.

He apparently underwent puberty and attributes the growth to the female cross sex hormones he was taking.

His puberty growth spurt was down to male puberty.

But in absolute terms these are very surprising dimensions suggesting that this person is a minor - which at least explains some of the weird posts

Having read through the EU cases the early thoughts were the poor chap has cut off his balls so he must be serious. No going back from that.

Now there are fewer GRC trans folks and less surgery as a % of cohort. I object to genital mutilation in all its form so that’s a positive.

But to respect the whole trans experience we must respect reverse transitions. If you can trans into a man and then into a woman and into a man etc it rather shows the insanity of the legislation.

60? Bloody hell. My parents are in their 60s and baffled by all this. They can barely even conceive of "transitioning" an adult , let alone a child. Yet and here we have just a totally normal transitioned since childhood almost pensioner? Sure, Jan. The whole story is laughable.