US to open world’s first children’s ‘detransition clinic’ Texas hospital to offer free services reversing the effects of gender-affirming treatments

In most cases it’s entirely possible to hazard a guess at someone’s likely gametes. And be 100% sure for those of us with kids. You’re fooling yourself if you think it’s mostly not obvious - although as you seem to be abnormally short for a male I’ll need to caveat that

is “sex realist” also a straw man?

Who is rewriting history. I lived my life. I know where I was in the 1980s. I've met trans women who followed a similar transition path to mine in the 1970s and 1960s.

You can drop your indignation and claims that trans people are rewriting history on top of my post all you wish, but it doesn't rewrite my experience.

Yes, and, especially in the US, having to try to manage your legal status state-to-state, as states have different laws. I worry about how limiting this is for my family member, restricting job opportunities, etc., if one state accepts detransitioning, but another doesn't (or, for example, restricts access to healthcare or even employment depending on how one "legally identifies").

There's so much that correlates with political boundaries. It's hard enough for those who have transitioned, and I wonder how difficult it will be for those who detransition. I would like more of these clinics to be established, and link up with administrative support as well. Perhaps they will, but I think this one in Texas is focused on the healthcare side of things.

Who is this "we" all of a sudden?

Re-writing history to make it look like trans people have 'always been there' is unacceptable.

An egregious example was the 2023 photoshopping onto a photo of the first open lesbian and gay demonstration in Ireland in 1983, of a pro-trans slogan.
The trans activists did not even respect the fact that the demonstration was in response to the murder of a gay man - anything was fair game to claim trans people were a part of lesbian and gay communities in the 1980s.

False narratives 'transing' the Stonewall Riots in NYC in 1969 are another example of this re-writing of lesbian and gay history.

Facts, logic, humour, critical thinking not widely known amongst the TRA. Narcissism however. Just look at DU and IW with their claims to be female. Has no one told them sex is not real so they cant be female 😂😂😂😂

I am mainly concerned about how the long-term physical issues will be handled (will medical insurance continue to cover their health care needs, etc., for those who need medical insurance), and how will mental health support be catered for.

Oh, yeah absolutely. And not to mention the headache regarding the legal side of things too, for instance, having to re-amend official documents and records.

I wasn't talking about the equation.

It's not my equation.

Logic really is not your strong suit is it?

If it's true, it's because he said it.
If it's not true, he never said it.
And, even if he gets it wrong, it wasn't his fault.

This is the sex realist 1+1 = 1 theory of sex.

The thing is, if humans are “social mammals” then that means they are still mammals, so sex is binary and immutable. So unless there is proof that humans are not in fact mammals, it will remain a fact there are two immutable and unchangeable sexes.

Meta-dialoging and passive-aggressive posting again?

You are loading a lot of assumptions into my statements. This is not on me.

Keep going this is proving hugely entertaining!

As I was squeezing the 2 DCs out, in pool in the dining room, I can tell you that art and culture were no help. I was pure mammal and it was great - hear me roar! The neighbours claim they heard nothing disappointingly

I made a human! And none of you chaps will ever experience that which must annoy the feck out of you - but you do your art and culture stuff - knock yourself out

😂I was very careful not to make personal accusations against any soecific poster. But if you identify your posts as derailing by "personal anecdotes rather than addressing the catastrophic harm that's happened to so many children and young people" then that's progress.

Maybe you could think next think about why you spend so much time on a feminist board posting numerous comments that display a contempt and disrespect for women?

No need to respond - more a suggestion for a bit of self reflection that might be useful.

So if TIM know they’re not male. And we know some do to claim to be female, but no one knows anyone’s chromosomes or gametes, how do they know? If there is no definition of male, how can anyone claim not to be male? What frame of reference are they using?

You just said they were part of the gay community.

Get your story straight.

I've never had this discussion with you, you are imagining things. On so many levels.

I can't remember if I asked you if you were straight the last time we had this discussion.

If you weren't straight, you would know that gay men absolutely did not treat trans women as men. We were forbidden from entering the 'men only' spaces like back rooms, strip bars and bath houses.

Our culture, as it pertains to sex was and is sex essentialist. This doesn't change the fact that no one knows the form of anyone else's chromosomes or the gametes they are assumed to produce.

"gender ideology" didn't exist until it was coined by the Catholic church. It seems a convenient straw man to attack rather than actual people.

Trans women would have been in the gay community if they were gay men. Because they are men.

The reason that there are sparingly few lesbian spaces featuring actual women is because of straight or bisexual men and their inability to keep out of these spaces.

Yes, they seem to love the sounds of their own voices (or reading their own words) more than anything else in the universe.

Anyway, thank you for bringing it back around on topic, for however long that will last!
I am mainly concerned about how the long-term physical issues will be handled (will medical insurance continue to cover their health care needs, etc., for those who need medical insurance), and how will mental health support be catered for. In my experience, transitioning is often presented as the be-all, end-all panacea for every issue (and clearly is not); many of the issues will still remain after detransitioning, so I hope that there will be appropriate and sufficient support for these.

I know. And putting aside humans, are the TRA now claiming sex does not exist for any species or is just in humans? Are we not mammals any more? But even if we thought of different names rather than male and female, it works still be true that there are only two types of humans when it comes to reproduction.

It’s quotes like this that make you sound child like or a simpleton. Sex realist has always existed as long as evolution unless you don’t think that exists either 🤣 Genderism has been around in the mainstream for the blink of an eye in comparison. And will probably be subsumed into categorisations to be allocated in future to human-like cyborgs. That is one thing we can thank the genderists for - when robotics evolve further we will already be clear about who is a woman.