YouGov Poll shows what parliament would look like if only women could vote

Yes, it would be like a survey asking young men what their favourite brand of flat cap is, when very few will wear one anyway.

Let’s say my instincts have been honed from years on FWR.

I have a sneaking suspicion based on some extremely offensive classist posts over threads yesterday that it is indeed a piss-take!

yep

Which is such a shame as I'd love to find out if men 50 over should also be disenfranchised or if it's just the women.

If it is just the women do trans women get to keep voting passed 50 🤔

So, no link and no return of the OP.

“When will the gender critical movement let go of the disingenuous narrative that they speak for or represent women when they clearly don’t?”

@FireBucket You don’t seem to be able to look at the detail that makes such a statement as yours badly flawed.

Firstly, you narrow the first part of your OP to 18-50 year olds. Then with this sentence you seem to be excluding 50+ women from being in the group ‘women’. Or did you mean ‘speak for ‘all’ women’ when in reality no feminists have the illusion their views represent ‘all’ women’s views.

Either way, the most basic flaw, as has been pointed out by quite a few others, is that you equate voting Green as being automatically supportive of male people accessing female single sex provisions. Perhaps you have missed the court cases coming up about women’s treatment within the Green Party where women have been poorly treated for not supporting male people accessing female single sex provisions?

There are plenty of women who vote Green who don’t support male people accessing female single sex provisions. (Imagine if they were not mistreated and could speak freely!)

The majority of 18-50 women also have said they dont support male people accessing female single sex provisions in polls specifically asking that question.

Your point above is overly simplistic and the chart (is it even a reputable source ) has little bearing on your point:

“When will the gender critical movement let go of the disingenuous narrative that they speak for or represent women when they clearly don’t?”

Not much point in looking at their voting intentions if they don't vote. And if their intention is not to vote, then which party they would vote for if they did bother to vote is irrelevant.

If male and female are outdated terms, who the fuck were yougov talking to about voting intentions?

We do want to discuss them. Where do you think the working classes - and let’s be clear we are talking about people like nurses, lorry drivers, care workers, trades etc - where do you, and your charming friends, think they’ve ‘failed’?

For space cadets everywhere:

"Female bodies are impacted differently than male bodies in outer space, with evidence suggesting that sex and gender play a role in how astronauts adapt to the space environment. While many physiological changes—such as muscle atrophy and bone loss—affect both, studies show subtle, significant differences in cardiovascular, reproductive, and sensory responses"

Young women seem to be very concerned about the environment and the struggles of less fortunate people, they are accepting of gender non conforming people, but they don’t think you can actually change sex, they definitely don’t want mixed sports, and ultimately they vote less than older women.

And for anyone who isn't there yet, the dinnertable discourse about the unwashed working classes should clinch it.

Well done Bella. Great wind up.

I think it's a testament to the number of twits and wankers we get on here on any day ending in Y.

OK, I fell for it.

Well done Bella. Poe's law in action.

Totally. And Not very good at it

How rude 😤

What do you mean by "the failure of working class communities?"

All sitting round the urban middle class dinner table discussing how frightfully dreadful the working class is

Definitely a wind up

Dinnertable discourse in my circles.🤣

Do you mean when your mum calls you to tell you your tea is ready?

I am soooo glad you wrote this. I've been thinkimg for few days how to put this.
Mixed immigrant household and you are 100 % on target with the experiences.
And not only behave in predictable ways but think certain ways. God forbid your opinions are bit different

I've never been pro-trans and Green, Labour and the Lib Dems are the only parties I've ever voted for. Unfortunately sensible people can't afford to be single-issue voters. I'd rather have any of these parties in power, pro-trans or not, than vote for the Tories or Reform to continue tearing the country apart. Right-wing parties tend to care very little about ordinary women.

Read back your first sentence.

Most people do not recognise males as females - outside of your small, exclusionary circle of acquaintances. We all exist. There is no doubt about that. But 'gender identities' are totally social in nature - and without social recocgnition they do not exist.

Male and female are biological terms. Biology has not gone out of fashion, and so long as we live on the earth ( or even in outer space in a capsule) it will always remain