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Lorna Young v Manchester City Council, Employment Tribunal, May 2026

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Mmmnotsure · 12/05/2026 13:00

Lorna Young is taking her former employer, Manchester City Council, to Employment Tribunal. The case began today. It is being live tweeted by Tribunal Tweets https://x.com/tribunaltweets
and coverage is also available on their Substack
https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/lorna-young-vs-manchester-city-council

Lorna Young was Equality Team Manager at MCC. She was dismissed, among other grounds, for her social media activity.

Lorna Young is gender critical and Catholic, and opposes surrogacy. She is claiming unfair dismissal, and discrimination and harassment because of religion or belief, and disability.

Tribunal Tweets (@tribunaltweets) on X

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SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 09:49

Forecastsayssunbutthereisnosun · 19/05/2026 09:31

I know I shouldn't really be shocked at this stage but I still am by the "trans age" part. The stupidity of it is just astounding.

"*NR: Example 4 on your IX report. Actual tweet is p1772. What does "trans-age" mean?
SN: Ppl that feel a different age inside
NR: Such as adults who ID as children?
SN: Yes
NR: You seriously say C disagreeing with that is gross misconduct?
SN: As I've said, it's the sum of it all
NR: This is not "shocking", is it?
SN: It cd be to those ppl?
NR: That is who the Council is protecting?
NR: Are 'trans-age' ppl protected under the EA2010?
[I don't think SN answers]
"

This is the inevitable consequence of the sheer stupidty of this ideology.

If you can be trans-sex then you can be trans every other protected characteristic.

You can be trans-Jewish, trans-Christian, trans-Muslim, trans-age, trans-disability, trans-pregnant etc etc.

If they have to believe you can change your sex then why not other things that are easier to mask?

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 09:46

A recap for those just joining:

  • Lorna has an anonymous account called GalawyGirl.
  • She likes some sex realist content including a few tweets by Julie Bindle and JKR. The sheer horror!
  • Self righteous colleagues recall some reference to the account way back and go on a witch hunt. The connect the dots via a picture of Trevi fountain where Lorna went to get comfort in her faith after her father died.
  • Said colleagues run a whatsapp group to talk about Lorna.
  • Oh dear all phones are lost so the actual whatsapp group can't be disclosed.
  • They raise concerns with Lorna's seniors and the head of Council.
  • During Lorna's time at the Council trans men are men & trans women are women and trans rights are human rights adopted as a belief from a Council
  • These likes on tweets were so shocking the investigating officer couldn't bnring themselves to email them to Lorna. Except they'd been emailed from an employee to another employee to HR to the investigatinng officer and put on a shared drive and we transfer and generally spread willy nilly. Dog whistle anyone?
  • No disclosure in parts
  • Late disclosure in parts
  • Incomplete disclosure
  • HR people giving advice left right and centre but nothing written down
  • Someone compromised put in as investigating officer
  • A senior manager in thrall to the younger employees and willing to do anything to please
  • Stonewall and Mermaids
  • A totally captured grey robot type woman who isn't employed by MCC managed Lorna. She tran's into a postbox and sends a load of letters but doesn't know what she signed or what it meant.
  • She was investigated for inappropriate gender critical abusive tweets but what a suprise she was cleared. But as shes employed by an NHS body that white wash can't be disclopsed.

Well done Lorna. Don't let them grind you down!

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 19/05/2026 09:40

Forecastsayssunbutthereisnosun · 19/05/2026 09:31

I know I shouldn't really be shocked at this stage but I still am by the "trans age" part. The stupidity of it is just astounding.

"*NR: Example 4 on your IX report. Actual tweet is p1772. What does "trans-age" mean?
SN: Ppl that feel a different age inside
NR: Such as adults who ID as children?
SN: Yes
NR: You seriously say C disagreeing with that is gross misconduct?
SN: As I've said, it's the sum of it all
NR: This is not "shocking", is it?
SN: It cd be to those ppl?
NR: That is who the Council is protecting?
NR: Are 'trans-age' ppl protected under the EA2010?
[I don't think SN answers]
"

I saw a post from someone who was there and they reported she said yes.

Ah, just found it, it was WRN Greater Manchester, retweeted by Nick Wallis.
https://nitter.net/nickwallis

Forecastsayssunbutthereisnosun · 19/05/2026 09:31

I know I shouldn't really be shocked at this stage but I still am by the "trans age" part. The stupidity of it is just astounding.

"*NR: Example 4 on your IX report. Actual tweet is p1772. What does "trans-age" mean?
SN: Ppl that feel a different age inside
NR: Such as adults who ID as children?
SN: Yes
NR: You seriously say C disagreeing with that is gross misconduct?
SN: As I've said, it's the sum of it all
NR: This is not "shocking", is it?
SN: It cd be to those ppl?
NR: That is who the Council is protecting?
NR: Are 'trans-age' ppl protected under the EA2010?
[I don't think SN answers]
"

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 09:21

JaneDoeKeepsReceipts · 18/05/2026 09:49

For those interested in remote access, I've been advised:

  • Contact the Tribunal at [email protected].
  • Include Lorna Young v MCC in the subject & body
  • "Request to observe remotely” in the subject heading to request a remote link.

You can get easy access through out the day for any period of time.

Email to get a remote link. Trial due to run to Friday but there was discussion of it slipping into September.

Disclosure and massive lack of disclosure is a massive issue in this trial. Judge is clearly treating it as a priority.

youandyourelk · 19/05/2026 08:52

poodlemum01 · 19/05/2026 08:49

slightly off topic, but i'd love to see actual political parties taken to ET by GC employees who work for them. I believe the green party were iirc but I'd especially love to see the SNP and Labour in court defending their position.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68250071

Shahrar Ali wins 'gender critical' court battle against Green Party

Shahrar Ali

Shahrar Ali wins 'gender critical' court battle against Green Party

Court finds the party discriminated against Shahrar Ali but had the right to dismiss spokespeople.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-68250071

youandyourelk · 19/05/2026 08:51

Only just catching up with this case as not had the temporal resources to follow this in any detail. What a shit show. In a field of fucked up EDI tribunals this one must surely rank as number 1. Wish I had the time to dial in but alas will have to rely on you lovely people and Tribunal Tweets this time.

poodlemum01 · 19/05/2026 08:49

slightly off topic, but i'd love to see actual political parties taken to ET by GC employees who work for them. I believe the green party were iirc but I'd especially love to see the SNP and Labour in court defending their position.

HappilyHarriet · 19/05/2026 08:26

@JaneDoeKeepsReceipts- you really do keep the receipts, thank you for that!
So those witnesses yesterday assumed their behaviour was ok and would win them approval from above. That explains a lot.
Between your links and the posts on Alistair Campbell I’m seeing how enmeshed Labour is with all this.

JaneDoeKeepsReceipts · 19/05/2026 08:08

@HappilyHarriet

Andy wasn't a product of this toxic environment, he created it.

GRA Reform / Self-ID (2019)
Labour mayors (including Burnham) letter urging easier self-ID, demedicalisation of gender recognition
The Guardian (2019)

GRA Reform / Self-ID (2019)
Woman's Place UK open letter critiquing Burnham's support
Woman's Place UK (2019)

Trans Health Services
Burnham's commitment to improve trans healthcare/services in Greater Manchester
GMCA Official (2018)

LGB Alliance Meeting (2020)
Meeting with LGB Alliance and Burnham's subsequent statement reaffirming trans support
Manchester Evening News (2020)

LGB Alliance Meeting (2020)
Pink News coverage of the meeting and backlash
Pink News (2020)

Conversion Therapy Pledge
Greater Manchester Pledge to End Conversion Therapy (supported by Burnham)
LGBT Foundation

Supreme Court Ruling Response (2025/2026)
Burnham criticises Supreme Court ruling & EHRC guidance on LBC (backlash coverage)
Order-Order / Guido Fawkes (2026)

Supreme Court Ruling Response
Reddit discussion/trans community view of Burnham's LBC comments
Reddit r/transgenderUK

Wikipedia Summary
Overview of Burnham's LGBT record, including GRA and LGB Alliance meeting
Wikipedia: Andy Burnham
General Context

Additional coverage of Burnham's positions and criticism
Various X/GB News reports on backlash to ruling comments (search "Andy Burnham Supreme Court" for latest)

Greater Manchester Pledge to End Conversion Therapy – LGBT Foundation

The UK's leading health and wellbeing charity

https://lgbt.foundation/greater-manchester-lgbtq-equality-panel/greater-manchester-pledge-to-end-conversion-therapy/

HappilyHarriet · 19/05/2026 07:38

Huge thanks to @JaneDoeKeepsReceiptsfor the updates, and of course Lorna for having the strength to bring this into the open.
I read on another thread that Andy Burnham
is TWAW and anti FWS. I’d be interested to know the source of that info, but having read the responses of Man City council’s employees I’m not surprised at his position, given the water he’s swimming in.

Callmejudith · 19/05/2026 07:24

Thank you @JaneDoeKeepsReceipts

I am utterly speechless at some of the updates

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2026 06:19

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 02:42

Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

x.com/stephenwhittle/status/1750711536841056353?s=46

You wonder how some of these people manage to be successful in their academic field.

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 03:02

RoyalCorgi · 18/05/2026 15:25

Does it worry anyone else that in pretty big organisations like NHS Fife or Manchester City Council, the people whose job it is to know the law don't actually know the law? All these tribunals have come out with pretty spectacular examples of people who don't even understand the basics of the Equality Act.

They’ve been ‘trained’ by organisations with no legal training who are just trans activists.

It’s the orgs fault of course. LS v NHS England was clear in saying paying those advisors doesn’t stop you following the law.

There is no where else in law where the fight has been so hard to benefit from legal rights that have been in place for our entire lifetimes

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 02:42

Not the sharpest tool in the shed.

x.com/stephenwhittle/status/1750711536841056353?s=46

Lorna Young v Manchester City Council, Employment Tribunal, May 2026
SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 02:41

Helpfully his hate speech against women who have the protected belief in sex realism has been collated by this blog:

gendercriticalwoman.blog/category/stephen-whittle/

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 02:34

Stephen Whittle’s wiki is an interesting read. Apparently she is a male lesbian who at the age of near 50 decided to have a fake phallus constructed out of arm skin and have it publicized on TV.

She and her partner had kids and she went to the European Court to have her children gaslight into having her named as their biological father. Didn’t work so she adopted them as legal father later.

She was a lecturer in law and involved in WPATH and Press for Change so focused on blurring the legal lines to create the collective delusion that having a gender identity meant changing one’s biological sex.

This is the cause celebre of Manchester City Council. A geriatric law lecturer who went to EU Court to lie to their children about their birth information and to say a woman could be their father. A woman who decided to get a big swinging dick in her late 40s.

She is still a lecturer in equalities law. Wonder how she values Lorna’s rights to be protected under the law.

https://share.google/aVToYCY2AGE7IH8Kk

Stephen Whittle

Stephen Whittle. 230 likes. Professor Stephen Whittle OBE, PhD.He is an active member of the United Kingdom TransActivist organisation Press for Change. Now (2007), Whittle is Professor of Equalities...

https://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Whittle/100039535162563/

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 02:12

spannasaurus · 19/05/2026 00:04

Below is from a WRN tweet

Later this witness tells us that she thinks trans-age belief is protected under the Equality Act! Unfortunately due to sound issues
@tribunaltweets
missed this - but we didn’t - we heard her answer Yes to the question ‘Are trans-age people protected under the Equality Act 2010’ even after Nathan Roberts, barrister for Lorna Young pointed out it means adults could identify children. Absolutely shocking that this senior member of staff at
@ManCityCouncil
has such a poor understanding of Equality law she is investigating someone else about.

Lorna Young’s manager from 2023, Sharmila Kar didn’t think Stephen Whittle’s presentation at a Council LGBTQi Network event she organised linked gender critical views with transphobia.

The title of the presentation was ‘The Triumph of Organised Transphobia. Exploring the political, legal and social impact of the Supreme Court Ruling in For Women Scotland’.

Just re-reading as there’s so much I missed form first few days.

First day of Lorna’s evidence.

As Inclusion work she is addressing an issue of men being house in women’s refuges (now clearly not in line with the law).

LY we had a n issue w refuges and having TW in them. It was a good round up of views that existed.
AM In para 20 u say you added factual reports about T issues in Manchester

LY This was created by Stephen Whittle about barriers. Was a Manch commissioned report
AM Do you have the report? I cant find it or the email of 24 March. Let's look at p662 of bundle 1. On its face is the experiences of T ppl in the city - incl crossdressers, transsexuals anfd those of no GI. Of ppl in Machester

This lad Stephen Whittle has a lot to say. Except Stephen is a biological female and famous in circles that want to deny women their basic rights.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Whittle

Stephen Whittle - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Whittle

SexRealistic · 19/05/2026 02:03

JaneDoeKeepsReceipts · 18/05/2026 15:49

Tribunal Tweets
@tribunaltweets
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3m
NR: AP replies, C knows the tweets context best?
SK: Yes
NR: p1659 - Ms [HR person] finally sent the tweets?
SK: Yes

NR 1698 - C writes to you re an OH referral, says she wants to consider RtW. MCC refused OH referral before the SOSR?
SK: Pretty sure that's right.

NR: Even though the C's absence was part of the SOSR meeting?
SK: Don't know.
NR: You wrote the letter.
SK: Just the postbox
NR: You don't know whose decision?
SK: I can't remember, I asked for advice here.

A senior EDI lead and a trustee for a mental health charity refuses someone an occupational health assessment until they have a SOSR meeting* where they plan to sack them.

SOSR - SOSR stands for Some Other Substantial Reason.

Knowing this person attempted suicide due to bullying and isolation from her entire team after linking some social media posts via an anonymous account.

And her absence formed part of the reason to get rid of her.

They wanted her to like tweets in a kinder way - but couldn’t provide a basic level of care with her health.

Oh and that exemplary EDI leader who signed off on all these letters - self identities as a postbox. 📮

Falsifying documents is a thing. If you don’t know what the letters say or don’t know the impact of what they say don’t attach your name to the letter and issue it from your mailbox.

JaneDoeKeepsReceipts · 19/05/2026 01:31

Evening all, happy to share when possible. I certainly felt that it was worth bringing to the fore here.

Many of us don’t encounter enforced undressing in corporate jobs - but in this case the shocking blinkered group think and outright hounding of gender critical women could happen to any of us.

If you can join remotely for any of the week at all please do to show your support for Lorna Young & so that employers know we are all watching.

None of this is possible without Tribunal Tweets. Bravo to their citizen journalists & bringing justice to the fore. 🙏 Please send money their way where you can.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 19/05/2026 00:12

spannasaurus · 19/05/2026 00:04

Below is from a WRN tweet

Later this witness tells us that she thinks trans-age belief is protected under the Equality Act! Unfortunately due to sound issues
@tribunaltweets
missed this - but we didn’t - we heard her answer Yes to the question ‘Are trans-age people protected under the Equality Act 2010’ even after Nathan Roberts, barrister for Lorna Young pointed out it means adults could identify children. Absolutely shocking that this senior member of staff at
@ManCityCouncil
has such a poor understanding of Equality law she is investigating someone else about.

Lorna Young’s manager from 2023, Sharmila Kar didn’t think Stephen Whittle’s presentation at a Council LGBTQi Network event she organised linked gender critical views with transphobia.

The title of the presentation was ‘The Triumph of Organised Transphobia. Exploring the political, legal and social impact of the Supreme Court Ruling in For Women Scotland’.

🤦‍♀️

SternJoyousBeev2 · 19/05/2026 00:09

Finally caught up!

Thank you @JaneDoeKeepsReceipts for posting from TT. I had previously struggled to read Lorna’s testimony from the TT Substack but had been following TT live on X last week for the MCC witnesses. So I’ve spent most of today catching up with the first couple of days posts. Nothing prepared me (not even last weeks fuckwits) for the batshittery of SN and SK.

SN’s responses about trans-age and the EA 2010 was probably the most shocked I have been whilst following the 2025/26 ETs.

Another thank you to @JaneDoeKeepsReceipts for the info to apply to observe remotely which I have done. I am thankful that I wasn’t listening live today as I would have died from second hand embarrassment.

Nathan R’s cross examination has been brilliant.

spannasaurus · 19/05/2026 00:04

Below is from a WRN tweet

Later this witness tells us that she thinks trans-age belief is protected under the Equality Act! Unfortunately due to sound issues
@tribunaltweets
missed this - but we didn’t - we heard her answer Yes to the question ‘Are trans-age people protected under the Equality Act 2010’ even after Nathan Roberts, barrister for Lorna Young pointed out it means adults could identify children. Absolutely shocking that this senior member of staff at
@ManCityCouncil
has such a poor understanding of Equality law she is investigating someone else about.

Lorna Young’s manager from 2023, Sharmila Kar didn’t think Stephen Whittle’s presentation at a Council LGBTQi Network event she organised linked gender critical views with transphobia.

The title of the presentation was ‘The Triumph of Organised Transphobia. Exploring the political, legal and social impact of the Supreme Court Ruling in For Women Scotland’.

Mmmnotsure · 18/05/2026 23:52

@JaneDoeKeepsReceipts
Thank you so much for all your hard work 💐

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