Giggle v Tickle Friday 15th May 2pm AEST

That no matter how inconvenient the existence of trans men are to the gender critical movement they prove transgenderism isn't about male domination….hence their 'inconvenience'.

Your point being?

Uh huh, there's thing call a 'trans man'.

Uh huh, there's thing call a 'trans man'.

Oh what a joke! You talk about colonisation, and can't see what is right smack bang in front of you: MALE COLONISATION OF FEMALE SPACES. Colonisation of our spaces, our identity, and our language. Cultural appropriation. And you actively want this.

Because social, political, and economic hierarchies like class structures, racial stratification & patriarchy systematically favour those at the top while disenfranchising marginalised groups where unequal protection & resource distribution eventuate…& we are seeing that in real time with trans people as they aren't considered to be deserving of acknowledgment let alone equal rights due to hierarchal structures.

Gender critical advocates like the Patriarchy consider biological essentialism as the tippy top of their structures that clearly has disadvantaged implications on those without.

Hierarchal structural disadvantage is not the same as making practical compromises because rights conflict. The problem eventuates when false concerns about rights are able to be easily weaponised against the bottom of the hierarchy…because they are at the bottom.

Because social, political, and economic hierarchies like class structures, racial stratification & patriarchy systematically favour those at the top while disenfranchising marginalised groups where unequal protection & resource distribution eventuate…& we are seeing that in real time with trans people as they aren't considered to be deserving of acknowledgment let alone equal rights due to hierarchal structures.

Gender critical advocates like the Patriarchy consider biological essentialism as the tippy top of their structures that clearly has disadvantaged implications on those without.

Hierarchal structural disadvantage is not the same as making practical compromises because rights conflict. The problem eventuates when false concerns about rights are able to be easily weaponised against the bottom of the hierarchy…because they are at the bottom.

It is not 'contestable' that male people with a transgender identity are a safety risk

Clearly it is given its legal for trans women to use female public restrooms in many countries & jurisdictions globally including in Europe, Scandinavia, Asia & North America so any tenuous speculation regarding prison data made is obviously not reflective of safety concerns in all of these countries. Again there are no broad movements in them to change laws which is the ultimate barometer of safety concerns.

And I do hold 'cards' in the Australian discussion, being an Australian and all. So, no. I am not 'colonising' anything and it is rather offensive to suggest that I am.

You aren't just advocating for a system to be imposed in Britain but for an imposition of a British system upon the rest of the world which in essence a form of colonisation. Of course this isn't anything new for British arrogance that always seems to end in tears.

Perhaps your time might be better spent on what forces have enabled Britain to be riddled with mismanagement, poverty & crime that have created their burgeoning prison system that's being exploited to push political pet projects home…and abroad rather than deal with the real underlying causes.

In other words, mind your own back yard first….it certainly needs tending.

Using a single, isolated or rare experience to draw a sweeping conclusion about an entire population, group, or system isn't a valid argument.

It's uncontroversial that the gender critical movement was created in & is substantially strongest in Britain. And there's been a lot speculation of why this phenomena is so captivating there. Hierarchy & class social structures being a long lasting historical cultural feature is probably the culprit in my view.

Ben Elton once was asked why it was he married an Australian rather than a British woman & his reply was British women in his experience were obsessed by class structure so that was one of the reasons.

Interestingly JKRowling made some interesting admissions in her recent Witch Trial podcast where she talked about how much class impacted her at school & college because of the poverty she experienced in her life. And yet now she clings ever so tightly to a hierarchical structure.

It's a funny thing that sometimes the thing that we seek to escape from we perpetuate because of an unconscious learning. I notice this in some immigrants from baltic countries where they wanted to escape authoritarian landscape but their own political views have authoritarian consequences. Learned habits however fought die hard it seems.

Because the law in your country says so. Not in mine.

What behaviour from men do you think makes it necessary to prevent them from entering women's spaces?

I don't think its necessary to exclude trans women because I don't believe they are a threat to women's safety.

Yeah yeah yeah, you did a word salad humanities course.

Men who say they are women and who get special rights to do what they want and go where they want ARE the patriarchy.

Which is why real feminists say no.

Because social, political, and economic hierarchies like class structures, racial stratification & patriarchy systematically favour those at the top while disenfranchising marginalised groups where unequal protection & resource distribution eventuate…& we are seeing that in real time with trans people as they aren't considered to be deserving of acknowledgment let alone equal rights due to hierarchal structures.

Gender critical advocates like the Patriarchy consider biological essentialism as the tippy top of their structures that clearly has disadvantaged implications on those without.

Hierarchal structural disadvantage is not the same as making practical compromises because rights conflict. The problem eventuates when false concerns about rights are able to be easily weaponised against the bottom of the hierarchy…because they are at the bottom.

The risk is obviously greater for a woman if she is alone with a man, but having other people around isn't always enough. A man was charged with sexual intercourse without consent on a plane last month, the woman who reported it was seated next to him on a flight to Australia.

What's "hierarchical" about not wanting to share a prison cell with a man? Or not wanting a man doing your rape counselling? Or wanting to be in a lesbian space without a man trying to guilt-trip you into straight sex? Or just wanting a bit of privacy from the male gaze when you change out of scrubs at the end of a nursing shift? Or not wanting children fast-tracked into making life-changing decisions about their bodies before they understand the implications? Your anti-British prejudice is leading you into some very strange assumptions.

How you deduced that from my comment is rather bizarre.

The comment was in reference to cis gender non conforming women being falsely accused of the wrong sex by enforcers of the new guidelines because they are 'guessing'.

In terms of trans identities using the ladies I imagine some will continue to do so because they sufficiently pass & as such can't be detected under 'sophisticated' gender stereotyping 'tracking' surveillance systems. This maybe illegal but to suggest it's 'predatory' is an irrational stretch.

How you deduced that from my comment is rather bizarre.

The comment was in reference to cis gender non conforming women being falsely accused of the wrong sex by enforcers of the new guidelines because they are 'guessing'.

In terms of trans identities using the ladies I imagine some will continue to do so because they sufficiently pass & as such can't be detected under 'sophisticated' gender stereotyping 'tracking' surveillance systems. This maybe illegal but to suggest it's 'predatory' is an irrational stretch.

Nor do women have to fear men……unless they are alone with them.

Permission structures don't tend to hold much power over abusers.

It's uncontroversial that the gender critical movement was created in & is substantially strongest in Britain. And there's been a lot speculation of why this phenomena is so captivating there. Hierarchy & class social structures being a long lasting historical cultural feature is probably the culprit in my view.

Ben Elton once was asked why it was he married an Australian rather than a British woman & his reply was British women in his experience were obsessed by class structure so that was one of the reasons.

Interestingly JKRowling made some interesting admissions in her recent Witch Trial podcast where she talked about how much class impacted her at school & college because of the poverty she experienced in her life. And yet now she clings ever so tightly to a hierarchical structure.

It's a funny thing that sometimes the thing that we seek to escape from we perpetuate because of an unconscious learning. I notice this in some immigrants from baltic countries where they wanted to escape authoritarian landscape but their own political views have authoritarian consequences. Learned habits however fought die hard it seems.

Based on typical associations with cis people.

It's uncontroversial that the gender critical movement was created in & is substantially strongest in Britain. And there's been a lot speculation of why this phenomena is so captivating there. Hierarchy & class social structures being a long lasting historical cultural feature is probably the culprit in my view.

Ben Elton once was asked why it was he married an Australian rather than a British woman & his reply was British women in his experience were obsessed by class structure so that was one of the reasons.

Interestingly JKRowling made some interesting admissions in her recent Witch Trial podcast where she talked about how much class impacted her at school & college because of the poverty she experienced in her life. And yet now she clings ever so tightly to a hierarchical structure.

It's a funny thing that sometimes the thing that we seek to escape from we perpetuate because of an unconscious learning. I notice this in some immigrants from baltic countries where they wanted to escape authoritarian landscape but their own political views have authoritarian consequences. Learned habits however fought die hard it seems.

This is beyond silly.