Giggle v Tickle Friday 15th May 2pm AEST

That really is devastating.
I have only just realised why the further appeal is necessary.

From https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-05-15/nsw-tickle-v-giggle-judgement-transgender-woman/106682498

In the full judgement, the appeal panel said the case raised issues on which there were differing views in the community. "It is important to emphasise that the issues for determination by the court involve the construction and application of provisions of the (Sex Discrimination Act)," they said. "The desirability or otherwise of that law is not a matter open to this court to consider."

Justice Bromwich said Ms Grover's argument that sex referred to a person's sex at birth conflicted with a "long history" of court decisions going back three decades which "establish that in its ordinary meaning, sex is changeable".

Edit sorry large font appeared after copy pasting

I am devastated for Sall. She deserves so much better.

Fuck fuck fuckety fuck.

Bloody unbelievable.

😡😡😡

Australia and Canada are the outliers now and have really drunk their own 'be kind' Koolaid without much actual kindness or thought behind it. What's kind about reinforcing delusional thinking?

An ugly bloke in a dress remains exactly that - an ugly bloke in a dress. Or even a v-neck!

And what this neglected to consider is the concurrent damage done to public trust and faith in politics, democracy, and rule of law.

One could quite easily predict what happens when the government rules that up is down and black is white and forces people to chant the mantras.

It's not good.

They depend upon women fighting, and paying, for their rights. Like some kind of fucking parlour game. It really is the pigging Women's Hunger Games.

Gay marriage took Christ knows how long, and needed a referendum, but this debacle - this just proves that the Denton’s document was worth every penny.

As we know, it has to go all the way to the top. The fuckers make us pay to win our rights back.

Disappointing, although unsurprising from what people have been saying about the law in Oz. The suggestion that the High Court has some scope to question the law itself is encouraging - does anyone know any more about this?

It really is very demoralising, though. I think I'm right in saying that the Giggle app included advertising room shares of some kind? That's the kind of thing that really shows the illogicality and injustice of this: women are disadvantaged - and put at risk! - in a way men simply aren't when they can't know that "women only" means "women only". Or, worse, women are misled into thinking something is safer than it actually is.

My thoughts with the women and girls of Australia.

Darkest before dawn.

Bon courage.

Yes it sneakily did exactly that.

Deep down, I think i already knew that…it’s just the downright unfairness of it.
Talk about kick a woman while she’s down…

So, all of the costs money goes to his lawyers, is that right?

But as she and others say... even if they lose in the high court, even if Oz becomes a draconian totalitarian state where anyone who says men aren't women gets taken outside, shot, vaporised and erased from memory, it won't change reality and fact. Men aren't women, Jason isn't a woman, literally everyone knows it and that's exactly how they would understand whom to vaporise. She's still right, she'll always be right and everyone knows it including Jason himself, the colossal chauvinist bastard.

I think I recall donating a while ago.

Although I guess this is a similar trajectory so far to FWS's SC ruling. I just can't understand how people can be such liars, at so much peril to women and girls.

If you need to drag a woman into court to prove you're a woman, if you need judges to declare you one, you're not one. He's only able to bring this case because he's a man!

Apparently all they have to do is say they are a woman and that's it.

Just listening to a space on X about this. The answer is yes - apparently gender identity can be self id and trumps sex.
(That's what I am picking up anyway)

And like Sall said at the time: how come they can pick and choose who their users are, but i can’t?

Unbelievable. They're such liars.

I have little hope for the high court either.

I don’t know about Australia, but here in the UK I have experience of this. I volunteer for a small charity. We had lawyers act for us for minimal cost to us. But of course they had costs they would normally have charged for time etc. When we won our case we were awarded costs and the lawyers were able to claim normal costs for the things they were willing to do for us for a fraction of normal cost.

I think the point is that just because you will help what you believe is a good cause doesn’t mean that you don’t actually have reasonable costs. And while you wouldn’t charge them to someone you support, if the legal system thinks an award of costs is appropriate, you are owed for your time.

Sadly in this case it has gone against Sal this time.

I don’t know the ins and outs of the Australian Sex Discrimination Law. But has it sneakily changed sex for gender in the wording?

Crowdfunder link is in Sall's X bio: https://x.com/salltweets

I don’t know if Mods will let my comment stand.

FYI No crowdfunding platform would deal with her so she set up her own.

Shit.