Giggle v Tickle Friday 15th May 2pm AEST

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(Tragic laughter)

Shit, that's not great. Anticipated perhaps, but not great all the same. All power to Sall's elbow for the appeal to a higher court and hopefully the publicity in the meantime will let people see what's really happening here.

... and here was me thinking that a 'dude with boobs moobs' is still a dude.

I should have realised that it's all about the neckline on the t-shirt. 🙄

Plenty are

That really was one of the most ridiculous comments made. I mean, I had to tell my husband to give me his v neck Bonds t-shirt because v neck = woman.

Thank you, @WaterThyme

@ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews I can’t assure you that all costs would go to the lawyers but I believe most of it would. IANAL.

If the Aussie Police were putting out an appeal to arrest Isla Bryson

We are looking for an individual around 35, 5ft 7 tall

reporters - are they male or female

police - I mean her penis was visible but her leggings were pink so definately female

Reading a little further, the court made a comment about how it can only apply the law as it is after Gillard fucked with it and it isn't empowered to give its view on that law as it now is. So it sounds as though the judges may be saying "yeah, it's fucking insane, but you essentially removed sex based protections when you altered discrimination law and this is the result". Although that doesn't explain why they held up his cross appeal for direct discrimination and punished Sall still further (or does it?).

They may be right. It might actually take a further High Court loss and then subsequently a complete overhaul of the law to take it back to what it was originally before it becomes legal again for women to be able to congregate without men in Australia. Insane. Wasteful. Utterly absurd.

Fucking hell, I backpacked there years ago as a solo female traveller and there were lots of female only dorms in hostels, which I always went for if I could (most places automatically put lone women there). Women who backpack there now not only can't sleep and change in a female only dorm, they have to accept someone like him in there and be gaslit and coerced accepting he's a woman.

Non binary innit.

Gosh can you imagine being women on top and a man down below. That would literally cause a glitch in the matrix.

Round neck yes. V neck no.

So it really is all about clothes, at the end of the day.

As long as it's not a V neck tshirt because that would make you a woman

Would that mean I have to be a man if I wear jeans and a shirt?

And actually, it should be simple enough by their own logic.
"I am a man, look at my gender-related appearance, I'm wearing jeans and a T-shirt".

Absolutely. If there are no female spaces then there are no male spaces - none. When Australian gay men (and men there in general) start to realise that there might be a group of women in their loos or clubs or whatever just taking up their spaces then the penny might start to drop.

More than one legally minded/qualified person has said to me that Sall needs a proper discrimination barrister as her legal team wasn’t up to it.

Oh yes please. Someone.

Yes, this has been the crux. Sall has long argued she just deleted him because he was a man, nothing to do with him being trans. They’ve effectively argued that Sall figured out he was trans and excluded him on that basis.

So long as they print the photos it shouldn’t be difficult for people to twig…

I know I shouldn’t be surprised, but I still find it mind-blowing that this has happened 🤯

I hope Sall knows how many women are rooting for her in this fight 💪🏾

And I hope Roxanne Tickle knows, whatever deluded courts and politicians say, he will never be a woman.

This!
women using the men’s toilets and changing rooms. Into any “male” spaces. Just change your name on a utility bill and off they go!

Michael Foran has dissected this (see Twitter) - he thinks Sall's legal team took the wrong approach. Other commentators reckon the plan all along was to get the case to the High court. The toll on Sall must be intolerable.

I pray this woman continues to find the strength to keep up the campaign.

I can only donate again by way of sending my bereft condolences on this news.

Sal Grover is a hero regardless.

If they were actually women then wherever they went in this world they would be women. However, they are not which ultimately means they cannot be.