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Starmer appoint Harman as his advisor on women and girls

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 09/05/2026 10:49

Kier Starmer has apparently appointed Harriet Harman as his advisor on women and girls

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2053034283003007255?s=46

he really really still doesn't get it does he?

Politics UK (@PolitlcsUK) on X

🚨 NEW: Keir Starmer has appointed Harriet Harman as the PM’s adviser on Women and Girls as part of No 10’s shakeup after the local elections

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/2053034283003007255?s=46

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Scotiasdarling · 09/05/2026 16:18

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/05/2026 16:06

I'd read that but couldn't find the evidence (apart from it being a PIE demand).

Yes, I read it too, but I haven't found corroboration except that Sky News have stated it as well (February 2014)

Eviebeans · 09/05/2026 16:16

SionnachRuadh · 09/05/2026 15:39

I was just thinking about Sunak, when he couldn't think what else to do, bringing Cameron back to be Foreign Secretary. But Cameron was at least relatively recent, and given a proper job.

This government already has two actual ministers covering the VAWG brief, Jess Phillips (Home Office) and Alex Davies-Jones (MOJ). Creating this part-time unpaid advisory non-job for Harman is transparently nothing to do with the subject and everything to do with getting Harman inside the tent.

The electorate saying "we want change" and Starmer saying "I will bolster my position by appointing Labour grandees from 20 years ago" might be the most Starmer thing ever.

I don't know the answers to Labour's challenges, but I'm pretty sure there is no question to which "send for Gordon and Harriet" is the answer.

I don’t think Gordon Brown was the answer even when it was his time

Sausagenbacon · 09/05/2026 16:16

I’m a Labour activist (for my sins), and trying to explain to my local group why this is so problematic. Can anyone point me in the direction of some good sources about this?
With the best will in the world, why do you think Labour deserve your support?

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 09/05/2026 16:15

1984Now · 09/05/2026 16:11

"My father was a carpenter".

Edited

Mine really was, and KS is still a plank

Wasn't his father a tool maker?
Very apt.

EasternStandard · 09/05/2026 16:14

AprilMizzel · 09/05/2026 16:11

SionnachRuadh · Today 15:39 post above - quoted above mine as well.

It just sums it up for me - I agreed with rest of the post as well but those lines perfectly capture the man.

I think he wants to harden everyone who didn’t vote Labour this week into never doing so due to him.

Just bizarre how hard of hearing someone can be, it was a pretty big message of dislike.

1984Now · 09/05/2026 16:11

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 09/05/2026 16:11

Dear Goddess, the man is a complete plank.

"My father was a carpenter".

AprilMizzel · 09/05/2026 16:11

EasternStandard · 09/05/2026 16:06

Not sure which pp the bold part is from but so true.

Local elections - disastrous. Mostly due to Starmer loathing.

Ik a photo op with Gordon Brown should do it.

SionnachRuadh · Today 15:39 post above - quoted above mine as well.

It just sums it up for me - I agreed with rest of the post as well but those lines perfectly capture the man.

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 09/05/2026 16:11

Dear Goddess, the man is a complete plank.

Eviebeans · 09/05/2026 16:07

Despite having his arse kicked he still hasn’t got it- he’s still not listening - I’m starting to realise that he’s doing what he wants to do to the detriment of everyone else

EasternStandard · 09/05/2026 16:06

AprilMizzel · 09/05/2026 15:57

The electorate saying "we want change" and Starmer saying "I will bolster my position by appointing Labour grandees from 20 years ago" might be the most Starmer thing ever.

So very true.

I mean Harriet Harman in a role for women and children - it's just yet another poltical mistake.

Not sure which pp the bold part is from but so true.

Local elections - disastrous. Mostly due to Starmer loathing.

Ik a photo op with Gordon Brown should do it.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/05/2026 16:06

Scotiasdarling · 09/05/2026 16:01

Actually they were campaigning to reduce it to 10.

I'd read that but couldn't find the evidence (apart from it being a PIE demand).

Eviebeans · 09/05/2026 16:04

kinkytoes · 09/05/2026 11:25

Is he still twatting about making crap decisions when he should be resigning?

That is almost exactly what I was thinking

1984Now · 09/05/2026 16:04

What an amazing career arc.
Apologist for pedophiles when working to help the PIE in early/mid 70s
To outspoken culture warrior for trans activism to the point she has nothing to say about Phillipson's obfuscation on the SC ruling
To "women's and girls' champion" as Starmer's new Anti Misogyny expert.
There aren't enough boggles in the world to comprehend this.
A half-century grift at the heart of The Process.

Scotiasdarling · 09/05/2026 16:01

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/05/2026 15:41

At the time the NCCL were campaigning to reduce the age of consent to 14. Such was Harman's insight and concern to safeguard children. 🙄

Actually they were campaigning to reduce it to 10.

AprilMizzel · 09/05/2026 15:57

The electorate saying "we want change" and Starmer saying "I will bolster my position by appointing Labour grandees from 20 years ago" might be the most Starmer thing ever.

So very true.

I mean Harriet Harman in a role for women and children - it's just yet another poltical mistake.

SionnachRuadh · 09/05/2026 15:53

It's like Polanski trying to shore up his standing with Green supporters by bringing back David Icke.

And it wouldn't completely surprise me if he did...

TheseWordsAreMine · 09/05/2026 15:51

You could almost be excused for thinking this world is controlled by satanist paedophiles.

Aliens are real btw..

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 09/05/2026 15:50

SionnachRuadh · 09/05/2026 15:39

I was just thinking about Sunak, when he couldn't think what else to do, bringing Cameron back to be Foreign Secretary. But Cameron was at least relatively recent, and given a proper job.

This government already has two actual ministers covering the VAWG brief, Jess Phillips (Home Office) and Alex Davies-Jones (MOJ). Creating this part-time unpaid advisory non-job for Harman is transparently nothing to do with the subject and everything to do with getting Harman inside the tent.

The electorate saying "we want change" and Starmer saying "I will bolster my position by appointing Labour grandees from 20 years ago" might be the most Starmer thing ever.

I don't know the answers to Labour's challenges, but I'm pretty sure there is no question to which "send for Gordon and Harriet" is the answer.

I don't know the answers to Labour's challenges, but I'm pretty sure there is no question to which "send for Gordon and Harriet" is the answer.

Particularly not for the large swathes of the electorate who will not have the foggiest idea who they are.

Scotiasdarling · 09/05/2026 15:50

Toseland · 09/05/2026 11:40

He's not stupid, of course he knows - it's just that he's anti-women and has an agenda we don't know about.

I think we all know very well.

Scotiasdarling · 09/05/2026 15:48

MarieDeGournay · 09/05/2026 13:09

You're right, I think she 'regretted' it.
I'm not defending HH at all, the bare facts about her are bad enough, I just don't think she was ever a 'PIE supporter'.

She took a job with the NCCL, and certainly still worked there when they were affiliated with the PIE. Given the controversy surrounding them at the time it is completely inconceivable that she knew nothing. Starmer really ought to learn to pick his friends more carefully.

Yellowheather · 09/05/2026 15:45

I’m a Labour activist (for my sins), and trying to explain to my local group why this is so problematic. Can anyone point me in the direction of some good sources about this?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/05/2026 15:41

Cailleach1 · 09/05/2026 15:04

Well, I suppose you could say she was an official of NCCL, which counted the Paedophile Information exchange as one of its affiliates. As far as I know, HH has no record of objecting to PIE being under the same umbrella. Of course, she was not alone in this. However, she is in a position of power, and is fair game to be called out for her past and current positions and decisions.

I remember reading a letter from a teacher in the past objecting to PIE being given legitimacy as part of NCCL. I can’t remember now if it was to the NCCL, or to the newspapers. It was as obvious then, as it is now, that paedophiles are abusers, and children are vulnerable and need to be protected.

At the time the NCCL were campaigning to reduce the age of consent to 14. Such was Harman's insight and concern to safeguard children. 🙄

SionnachRuadh · 09/05/2026 15:39

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 09/05/2026 14:50

It's a weird thing, isn't it, and not exclusive to the Labour party? Dust off some MP/PM from the distant past whose career was never that great or spectacularly tanked (Blair) and then sell them on as some wise elder statesperson.

I was just thinking about Sunak, when he couldn't think what else to do, bringing Cameron back to be Foreign Secretary. But Cameron was at least relatively recent, and given a proper job.

This government already has two actual ministers covering the VAWG brief, Jess Phillips (Home Office) and Alex Davies-Jones (MOJ). Creating this part-time unpaid advisory non-job for Harman is transparently nothing to do with the subject and everything to do with getting Harman inside the tent.

The electorate saying "we want change" and Starmer saying "I will bolster my position by appointing Labour grandees from 20 years ago" might be the most Starmer thing ever.

I don't know the answers to Labour's challenges, but I'm pretty sure there is no question to which "send for Gordon and Harriet" is the answer.

Forecastsayssunbutthereisnosun · 09/05/2026 15:22

I am at least finding some amusement in the responses on X to this appointment.

ripx4nutmeg is on it today:

"After the disaster of unnecessarily appointing someone at the heart of the previous Labour government who had known links to paedophiles, it's a refreshing change that Starmer has now appointed Harriet Harman in a risk-free move that the electorate has been screaming for."

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/05/2026 15:14

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