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Zoe Garbett - Green mayor for Hackney

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maltravers · 08/05/2026 16:54

What do we know about Zoe Garbett (Hackney’s new Green mayor) in the context of gender identity politics? I assume she must be full on TWAW or the Greens would have ex-communicated her/Walter Titty wouldn’t be seen with her, but is this correct?

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ConstanzeMozart · 25/08/2026 08:32

PeachyDaisy · 25/08/2026 07:32

Do most of the people in the Hackney support giving access to transwomen or is it that they oppose it, but don't know that that is what their local council is doing?

I’m in Hackney (for my sins) and I only know about their plans for ‘trans inclusion’ from this site. They’re certainly not putting leaflets through doors about their plans for toilets.

PeachyDaisy · 25/08/2026 07:32

Do most of the people in the Hackney support giving access to transwomen or is it that they oppose it, but don't know that that is what their local council is doing?

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 21:15

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 20:24

It’s irrelevant because Zoe will find out (with or without seeing anything from me) that she can’t not have single sex toilets.

This would be daft and at a loss to health and safety, but the closest thing she can have is making all toilets more costly universal designs, which would be very tricky design-wise in larger buildings because of the way they have to be set out. However, even though they could look exactly the same internally (except different sanitary bins for different needs) they would still have to have women and men pictograms on the door to differentiate. What’s the point? You may as well have proper single sex washrooms with cubicles off the handbasin area. Much cheaper, safer, healthier and quicker turnover (so you can calculate for 25% less standard toilets).

edit: as eating dinner and grammar suffering with multitasking

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And in the meantime rate payers in Hackney are apparently going to foot the bill.

That's the point.

That Hackney along with 5 other councils are going to use rate payers money for there to be yet another court case.

And on one level it helps, with from locals asking why are you doing this, to people who understand what the law says make her / the councils aware.

It would be quite something for a court case if it turns out the legal argument against the 6 councils have in fact been spelt out in advance on a local paper's web site!

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 21:10

Neversofaraway · 24/08/2026 20:45

Have you considered appearing on Mastermind with toilets as your special subject?

😅too broad. ‘Safety in non-domestic toilets, with particular emphasis on the United Kingdom’ perhaps? It’s niche. The questions and answers may be a bit too grim for evening entertainment!

Neversofaraway · 24/08/2026 20:45

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 19:47

For the same reason that many women will post on here but not divulge their real name on an open public platform. It asks for your name. I am not going to make a name up.

I have criticised lots of toilet ‘solutions’ by many different people who have a lot more money and power than me, but they haven’t the foggiest about the reality of toilet provision. I know so much about the difference good and bad design can make now. I spend lots of time making sure everything I write is truthful and I can back it up. Someone from the USA highlighted me as the nichest account the other day which made me smile. Happy to be niche - indicates I know what I am talking about!

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Have you considered appearing on Mastermind with toilets as your special subject?

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 20:24

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 20:01

How would anyone know who you are if you post not using your real name???????????????

It’s irrelevant because Zoe will find out (with or without seeing anything from me) that she can’t not have single sex toilets.

This would be daft and at a loss to health and safety, but the closest thing she can have is making all toilets more costly universal designs, which would be very tricky design-wise in larger buildings because of the way they have to be set out. However, even though they could look exactly the same internally (except different sanitary bins for different needs) they would still have to have women and men pictograms on the door to differentiate. What’s the point? You may as well have proper single sex washrooms with cubicles off the handbasin area. Much cheaper, safer, healthier and quicker turnover (so you can calculate for 25% less standard toilets).

edit: as eating dinner and grammar suffering with multitasking

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 20:01

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 19:47

For the same reason that many women will post on here but not divulge their real name on an open public platform. It asks for your name. I am not going to make a name up.

I have criticised lots of toilet ‘solutions’ by many different people who have a lot more money and power than me, but they haven’t the foggiest about the reality of toilet provision. I know so much about the difference good and bad design can make now. I spend lots of time making sure everything I write is truthful and I can back it up. Someone from the USA highlighted me as the nichest account the other day which made me smile. Happy to be niche - indicates I know what I am talking about!

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How would anyone know who you are if you post not using your real name???????????????

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 19:47

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 18:40

Why dont you post a comment on the web page where it is published.

I sort of doubt Zoe is checking FWR for feedback, but she might on a local paper? Grin

For the same reason that many women will post on here but not divulge their real name on an open public platform. It asks for your name. I am not going to make a name up.

I have criticised lots of toilet ‘solutions’ by many different people who have a lot more money and power than me, but they haven’t the foggiest about the reality of toilet provision. I know so much about the difference good and bad design can make now. I spend lots of time making sure everything I write is truthful and I can back it up. Someone from the USA highlighted me as the nichest account the other day which made me smile. Happy to be niche - indicates I know what I am talking about!

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 18:40

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 18:32

To Zoe:

No single sex toilets means no toilet cubicles, unless you break building regulations. Furthermore it means no toilet door and partition gaps which are for health and safety: ventilation, thorough cleaning, supervision in medical emergencies and prevention of misuse. Who benefits most from single sex cubicles? Anyone having a medical emergency, or anyone being assaulted which affects women and children. People with neurological and heart conditions are particularly at risk eg. up to 11% of cardiac arrests happen on the toilet. People needing cleaner toilets for immune issues are at risk too. It’s scientifically proven unisex (universal) toilet designs contain the most pathogens.

I saved a young woman’s life because of the permitted 15cm floor to door gap in single sex toilets - she had choked on vomit and stopped breathing. Over the last few years I have researched non domestic toilet safety and I have a books-worth of research and evidence which shows mixed sex designs are less safe.

If you want to discuss, I am happy to, because I want everyone to be safe. But abolishing single sex designs isn’t the way to do it. You are creating toilets that are least worse for healthy men. That is not equality.

Why dont you post a comment on the web page where it is published.

I sort of doubt Zoe is checking FWR for feedback, but she might on a local paper? Grin

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 18:39

SwirlyGates · 24/08/2026 18:31

And why, just why, are some of the supporters women? Are they just plain stupid?

Again, I think many on FWR have asked this over and over again.

It is just so strange. You could support trans rights but still support and ensure that women's rights were not undermined or ignored.

And it is the TRAs who seemed fanatical about getting women to "submit" to accepting men as women. And some of them are members of the House of Commons Women and Equality Committee!!!!!!!!!!

Keeptoiletssafe · 24/08/2026 18:32

To Zoe:

No single sex toilets means no toilet cubicles, unless you break building regulations. Furthermore it means no toilet door and partition gaps which are for health and safety: ventilation, thorough cleaning, supervision in medical emergencies and prevention of misuse. Who benefits most from single sex cubicles? Anyone having a medical emergency, or anyone being assaulted which affects women and children. People with neurological and heart conditions are particularly at risk eg. up to 11% of cardiac arrests happen on the toilet. People needing cleaner toilets for immune issues are at risk too. It’s scientifically proven unisex (universal) toilet designs contain the most pathogens.

I saved a young woman’s life because of the permitted 15cm floor to door gap in single sex toilets - she had choked on vomit and stopped breathing. Over the last few years I have researched non domestic toilet safety and I have a books-worth of research and evidence which shows mixed sex designs are less safe.

If you want to discuss, I am happy to, because I want everyone to be safe. But abolishing single sex designs isn’t the way to do it. You are creating toilets that are least worse for healthy men. That is not equality.

SwirlyGates · 24/08/2026 18:31

And why, just why, are some of the supporters women? Are they just plain stupid?

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 18:28

SwirlyGates · 24/08/2026 18:20

@IwantToRetire how did so few people (the trans people, not the Green councillors) end up with such power?

There have been many threads about this on FWR, and there are various suggestions.

But whether through secret networks, mis training by Stonewall, the issue as I see it it how did so many people who aren't trans are so actively TRAs and so actively anti woman.

So much of this is about disrespecting women and women's rights.

SwirlyGates · 24/08/2026 18:20

@IwantToRetire how did so few people (the trans people, not the Green councillors) end up with such power?

IwantToRetire · 24/08/2026 17:36

... openly rejecting the Equality and Human Rights Commission guidance, which she finds “horrifying”.

“Trans women are women, and trans men are men. I want trans people to know that they are able to navigate public life,” she says, citing the inequalities the community faces, such as over health.

“If you start to police and exclude and make decisions about where people can and cannot go, you are questioning their identity at its core, and that’s what I am rejecting.”

No single-sex spaces

This means that on her watch, there will be no single-sex spaces installed in council buildings, even if that means the council ends up in court.

“We’re working really closely with directors, the legal team to make sure that everything we’re proposing from this principle of maximum trans inclusion is robust,” she says.

https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2026/08/21/zoe-garbett-100-days-in-office/

‘More like 20 years’: Zoë Garbett on 100 days in office – Hackney Citizen

https://www.hackneycitizen.co.uk/2026/08/21/zoe-garbett-100-days-in-office/

ConstanzeMozart · 09/08/2026 09:53

IwantToRetire · 06/08/2026 02:56

Left-wing councils have launched a co-ordinated effort to defy rules on single-sex spaces, with some refusing to make staff run services on the basis of biological sex.

Labour, Green and Liberal Democrat authorities said they would resist implementing the Equality and Human Rights Commission’s (EHRC) code, which came into force on Wednesday, as women pushed legal action to force public bodies to comply with the law.

The leaders of six London boroughs — Lambeth, Hackney, Haringey, Lewisham, Southwark and Waltham Forest — made a joint commitment to keep their services “inclusive” and warned the rules “will feel like an attack” on transgender and non-binary residents.

In a joint letter, they said: “Trans women are women, trans men are men, and non-binary identities are fundamentally valid.” They described the code as “harmful to the rights of trans people” and said: “We won’t put our staff in the impossible position of policing entry to public spaces.”

Full article at https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/ehrc-guidance-single-sex-spaces-xslts8v3w

And at https://archive.is/ft943

Trans women are women, trans men are men
And war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.
I live in Hackney (no, I did not vote for the Greens). God help us.

Keeptoiletssafe · 08/08/2026 00:52

My manifesto is 3 words long.

Abhannmor · 07/08/2026 18:50

I didn't realise there was an Irish Traveller flag. More research needed but I strongly suspect most Travellers are unaware of this too. Like other posters I think it would make more sense for the Greens to pay more attention the environment and other more pressing issues.

IwantToRetire · 07/08/2026 01:18

LeftieRightsHoarder · 06/08/2026 23:28

That’s brilliant! Campaign for something that already exists, then you can take the credit when your dim-witted followers find out they have these rights!
If I ever stand for political office, I’ll promise to make arson illegal, ban the police from shooting carol singers and give pedestrians the right to cross the road at pedestrian crossings. I’ll be onto a winner.

Quite a slap in the face for women to know the Greens will campaign for just about anybody but women.

1984Now · 06/08/2026 23:52

LeftieRightsHoarder · 06/08/2026 23:28

That’s brilliant! Campaign for something that already exists, then you can take the credit when your dim-witted followers find out they have these rights!
If I ever stand for political office, I’ll promise to make arson illegal, ban the police from shooting carol singers and give pedestrians the right to cross the road at pedestrian crossings. I’ll be onto a winner.

They're like the Monster Raving Loony Party, but with zero SOH and even less practicality. I would genuinely trust Howling Laud Hope to run the country more rationally than them.
How about talking about the environment...y'know, the clue is written on the front of the tin, the <Greens>.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 06/08/2026 23:28

RubyTrees · 09/05/2026 06:59

"We will defend and protect the rights of people of all sexual orientations and gender identities and continue to campaign for full legal rights and equal access to services for trans people, particularly in the wake of the 2025 Supreme Court ruling."

Zoe seems to be unaware that trans people already have the same legal rights and equal access to services as everyone else.

That’s brilliant! Campaign for something that already exists, then you can take the credit when your dim-witted followers find out they have these rights!
If I ever stand for political office, I’ll promise to make arson illegal, ban the police from shooting carol singers and give pedestrians the right to cross the road at pedestrian crossings. I’ll be onto a winner.

punkhairbrush · 06/08/2026 12:05

I found it bizarre that Hackney proudly displayed an Irish Traveller flag over the town hall, but has trouble flying the English flag! That added with their insane choice to stop the twinning of Hackney with a diverse town in Israel and giving them a deadline of the 7th October! WTF has Hackney become! I lived there for 25 years and this woman is so out of touch about the actual community! It’s always been a diverse and flourishing place, where different communities lived safely side by side! She doesn’t realise her extreme left way of thinking could ruin it all!