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How do we address men’s violence against women as an epidemic?

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AnnaQuayRules · 05/05/2026 21:58

It's not all men but it's always men and I'm fucking sick of it.

Yet another woman murdered by her ex who blew her (and himself) up with an explosive device.

I don't know what my point is really, just that I feel so sick and angry about this. The poor woman phoned 999 and, to be fair, it seems the police were on site within 5 minutes but he'd already killed her by then.

This is an epidemic but how do we address it?

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Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:30

GinJarRogers · 05/05/2026 23:27

It’s also so sad (but depressingly unsurprising) that the murdered woman had contacted the police about this man previously. Obviously I don’t know the facts but Avon and Somerset police have referred themselves to the Independent Office for Police Conduct “due to previous police contact with the victim prior to Sunday”. I would not be surprised at all if police failings contributed to this man going on to murder his ex when they had the opportunity to protect the woman from him.

They aren't learning the lessons at scale. And quickly enough.

There's another poor young woman in NI. Lost her life at the hands of someone with a prolific offending history as far as I could make out.

They need to take an epidemiological approach to the data, like a pp says. Law enforcement needs to be far more proactive. It's slow reactivity is costing lives.

OtterlyAstounding · 05/05/2026 23:30

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 22:25

My cousin and MIL are extremely verbally and physically abusive to their DHs and children and it's very, very concerning that people turn a blind eye to the abuse they inflict on others presumably because they are women.

But, I am very disturbed by light sentences for SA and murder. People often state that you get longer sentences for pirating movies than for these crimes.

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Have you reported this? Have you encouraged their DHs to leave? Why do you believe the fact that people turn a blind eye is because they're women? People turn a blind eye to male violence all the time.

Regardless, I'm not sure what your comment has to do with the epidemic of male violence against women? It's a very odd response to make. Perhaps you should start your own thread to discuss female violence? It could be an interesting discussion.

GinJarRogers · 05/05/2026 23:27

It’s also so sad (but depressingly unsurprising) that the murdered woman had contacted the police about this man previously. Obviously I don’t know the facts but Avon and Somerset police have referred themselves to the Independent Office for Police Conduct “due to previous police contact with the victim prior to Sunday”. I would not be surprised at all if police failings contributed to this man going on to murder his ex when they had the opportunity to protect the woman from him.

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:27

Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:27

Ah, the passive aggressive sign-off of a flouncer!

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Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:27

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Ah, the passive aggressive sign-off of a flouncer!

2016NotATeen · 05/05/2026 23:26

Fuck me. Russell Brand has arrived on the thread with his thesaurus…

SpiritAdder · 05/05/2026 23:26

There have been some very intriguing studies by epidemiologists on violence and how it acts like an infectious disease. Someone exposed to violence is then likely to go on to be violent. Violence has a way of perpetuating and intensifying itself. It’s been studied at the household level, family level and even societal level where violence emerges as civil unrest, crime waves, and even bloody revolutions/terrorism.

Men tend to be exposed to more violence than women. Usually from other men.
Society also shuttles men into the jobs that require daily exposure to extreme violence- military, law enforcement, certain sports- which are positively linked with them being perpetrators of violence on their own families and friends.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/get-psyched/201705/how-violence-spreads-contagious-disease

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-31246-6_5

https://www.numberanalytics.com/blog/epidemiology-violence-chronic-disease-perspective

https://www.wlrn.org/npr-breaking-news/2026-03-30/can-war-be-treated-like-an-infectious-disease-this-expert-thinks-so

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:25

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Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:25

Time to ignore the tedious derailer
A pity it happened on this of all threads

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:24

nutmeg7 · 05/05/2026 23:24

Women are not the only parents though, are they? 50% of parents are men. How about we look at their parenting as well.

If you read my post, I addressed this already, which is great that we're on the same page.

nutmeg7 · 05/05/2026 23:24

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:13

Why are you assuming I don't believe in male violence? I also believe poor parenting, by women, contribute to male violence.

I mean, I don't know why that is so upsetting. I thought we would have an intellectual discussion about how to "address the epidemic" rather than how to make @Potooooooooes the focus of the thread.

Women are not the only parents though, are they? 50% of parents are men. How about we look at their parenting as well.

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:24

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:21

Don't be dramatic in effort to join a pile on. How can women demonstrate intellect and solidarity when they put words in each others mouths and try to infight on a forum, FGS.

I stated that there are contributing factors, by bad parenting from women, which result in male violence. That does not mean it is causative or excludes the responsibility of parenting by men.

Strategies address issues and the implementation of those strategies can only work if they encompass all factors.

I am sensing a distinct lack of ability for intellectual discourse, thus far.

Advocate for sisterhood and not victimhood and we might actually be heard.

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Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:23

GinJarRogers · 05/05/2026 23:18

I don’t know what the answer is but I’m also very concerned at what appears to be general apathy and acceptance towards this issue.

Even the reporting of male violence is minimising and skirts around the issue, see for example the headline of this article about the case you mention “Woman died after ex 'with explosive device forced entry to house'”. Surely it should be “Man kills woman by causing explosion after forcing entry into her house”. It may seem a minor point but it is important because naming the issue is recognising it but if you can’t recognise a problem then you can’t address it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx21q55gz12o

I'm absolutely not defending language that doesn't reflect the truth, I'm just wondering if they are being careful for the legalz.

You wouldn't want the men getting upset lest blame be rightly attributed in their direction

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:21

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:17

Wth

Did you just actually blaming poor parenting by women for males committing femicide

Don't be dramatic in effort to join a pile on. How can women demonstrate intellect and solidarity when they put words in each others mouths and try to infight on a forum, FGS.

I stated that there are contributing factors, by bad parenting from women, which result in male violence. That does not mean it is causative or excludes the responsibility of parenting by men.

Strategies address issues and the implementation of those strategies can only work if they encompass all factors.

I am sensing a distinct lack of ability for intellectual discourse, thus far.

Advocate for sisterhood and not victimhood and we might actually be heard.

Potooooooooes · 05/05/2026 23:20

GinJarRogers · 05/05/2026 23:18

I don’t know what the answer is but I’m also very concerned at what appears to be general apathy and acceptance towards this issue.

Even the reporting of male violence is minimising and skirts around the issue, see for example the headline of this article about the case you mention “Woman died after ex 'with explosive device forced entry to house'”. Surely it should be “Man kills woman by causing explosion after forcing entry into her house”. It may seem a minor point but it is important because naming the issue is recognising it but if you can’t recognise a problem then you can’t address it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx21q55gz12o

yyy, so minimising. Not naming it.

nutmeg7 · 05/05/2026 23:20

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:10

A news article is a one off anecdote about someone none of us know.

I didn't realise data was required since an anecdote was provided at opening and a stats requirement wasn't stated as a prerequisite for the ability to engage in this conversation.

I assumed you were familiar with the statistics and general context of the problem of male violence, particularly when it comes to killing loved ones or family. The newspaper report is being discussed in that context. And that is why any attempt to present women as being equally prone to inflicting violent acts upon others tends to wind people up.

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:19

Rules of the Patriarchy #1,000,000: searchez la femme

Potooooooooes · 05/05/2026 23:19

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:17

Wth

Did you just actually blaming poor parenting by women for males committing femicide

  1. Women are responsible for what men do.
Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:18

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:16

@Ghostmartin Why don't you move along and not read my posts if you can't handle my contribution?

I'm waiting for your contribution to the intellectual discussion you claim you want to have
Looks like I'm not going to find it in your posts
You got called out, you can't handle it
As you say, move along if you just want to whinge about your MIL

GinJarRogers · 05/05/2026 23:18

I don’t know what the answer is but I’m also very concerned at what appears to be general apathy and acceptance towards this issue.

Even the reporting of male violence is minimising and skirts around the issue, see for example the headline of this article about the case you mention “Woman died after ex 'with explosive device forced entry to house'”. Surely it should be “Man kills woman by causing explosion after forcing entry into her house”. It may seem a minor point but it is important because naming the issue is recognising it but if you can’t recognise a problem then you can’t address it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx21q55gz12o

A selfie of a young woman with long dark hair. She is wearing heavy eye makeup and a nose ring and has a black chocker necklace around her neck. She appears to be in a car, with the seat belt visible.

Bristol explosion: Jo Shaw died after ex Ryan Kelly 'forced way into house'

Police officers are treating the death of Jo Shaw as a homicide.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx21q55gz12o

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:17

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:13

Why are you assuming I don't believe in male violence? I also believe poor parenting, by women, contribute to male violence.

I mean, I don't know why that is so upsetting. I thought we would have an intellectual discussion about how to "address the epidemic" rather than how to make @Potooooooooes the focus of the thread.

Wth

Did you just actually blaming poor parenting by women for males committing femicide

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:16

Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:14

FGS read the room
The thread is about male violence
Start your own thread if you want "balance"

@Ghostmartin Why don't you move along and not read my posts if you can't handle my contribution?

Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:16

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:14

2 women a week dying at the hands of their partner or former partner is not and cannot be "balanced" by anecdotes about a MiL

Exactly

Sodontmindififallapart · 05/05/2026 23:14

2 women a week dying at the hands of their partner or former partner is not and cannot be "balanced" by anecdotes about a MiL

Ghostmartin · 05/05/2026 23:14

ItsJustMeMyself · 05/05/2026 23:01

Try to not be rude and obstinate when people are trying to demonstrate a balanced perspective based on their experiences and minimising those with sarcasm and hostility.

Thanks.

FGS read the room
The thread is about male violence
Start your own thread if you want "balance"