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AidaP is scraping Mumsnet threads, and grading them

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BambooLampshade · 28/04/2026 21:15

Honestly, this man is obsessed. He has now created a program to scrape and grade Mumsnet threads from this board.

What is this?

Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads.

I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

Aida (@aidap.bsky.social)

What is this? Oh yes, I have downloaded most of mumsnet and we will be doing embeddings of the content to try to understand how does the rot and hate builds and spreads. I never had so much hate and delusion on my hard drive before 😅

https://bsky.app/profile/aidap.bsky.social/post/3mkklbtpgbs2s

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BackToLurk · 29/04/2026 14:36

Can nobody just spare a thought for how devastated Aida is going to be that he’s not known in the single-voiced, trans community.

Sad times.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:33

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:22

Hmmm, more like it's cheaper to make without them.

You might that but I couldn't possibly comment

Catiette · 29/04/2026 14:32

I found the line - I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man - very interesting.

It sums up the issue, for me:

Hazel gets 2 nouns to use to describe them. I - we! - get none. Zilch. Nothing.

If "woman" is used for "transwoman", it can't apply to me or even, frankly, most women globally, in the way in which we conceive of ourselves. "Ciswoman" certainly doesn't, because this only functions on the assumption that 1) transwomen are a kind of women and 2) I "identify with my gender" (or whatever equivalent phrase you prefer). "Female" is inadequate and even somewhat degrading used as an adjectival noun, indiscriminately applicable as it is to animals, too. Just as some female animals get their own words besides this, I rather think adult human females are deserving of a unique semantic marker too (I mean, WOW - that I even have to type that is fucking terrifying!!!)

So yes, there's absolutely an ethical debate to be had here. Yes, there are two conflicting sides. Yes, given this, rights aren't a pie and compromises must be made. (Anyone who argues against this now either isn't really following this debate, or denies the validity of female voices full-stop, as well as the Supreme Court, really!)

So, from a democratic, left-leaning and liberal perspective - just as someone fair-minded and practical - I find it astonishing that

  1. People so confident that they're on the side of right are confidently laying claim to the very language necessary to enable the other "side" even to participate in said debate

and

  1. Those same people are arguing for the right to self-definition in a way that denies another group the same. They have "transwomen" (I actually think it was generous of women even to permit this, but they need something and it works for them, so great, that's fine by me) but they also lay claim to the one and only word the other side has (and has used for millenia) - "woman".

To me, whatever else about this debate maybe difficult or problematic or troubling, it always comes back to the inescapable truth that whereas one group argues that the other should retain the ability and right to refer to and advocate for themselves as a distinct political demographic (GC feminists), the other side seeks to deny their "opponents" the same (TRAs).

The other thing that assures me of my "side" in this debate is that, if we move from the democratic argument based on fairness, above, to a utilitarian one - what's practical...

Historically speaking, of these two conflicting groups, only one - the one now without a name - was systemically and proactively denied a political voice to advocate for their rights just a 100 years or so ago. To me, it's self-evident that the ready large-scale removal of this group's language and recognition as a distinct demographic (I mean, I can't even use "women" here to unambiguously make this argument without qualifying it with eg. the adjective "biological" - it's appalling!) is in fact a reflection of how fragile (biological) women's rights still are.

And if we, conversely, use an argument of scale... When you think about the numbers of deaths, women are dying in their millions globally (and tens of thousands just in the UK, eg. due to car design and heart attack treatment relying on the male default). And women are enslaved in Afghanistan and other countries (in a way that had the western world in furious conflict and at war when it affected Black slaves and South African apartheid: not so much for women who, conversely, are being told they they're morally dubious even for wanting to use their old word to unambiguously describe these abuses). Those numbers vastly overshadow any others.

Hazel, the tone of your posts means I don't really expect or hope for a meaningful reply to this (I've never had one yet that comes close to addressing these points without evasion, misrepresentation or insult). Plus, I'm hoping to get back to work soon! But if your posts here, and your "essay", genuinely aren't intended to be parody or somewhat absurdist (still unsure, tbh) and you really do believe you have the intellectual and moral highground(?!), maybe you could think back to your misuse of "pathological" and consider that there may be similar inconsistencies, ironies and glaring omissions in your arguments about women's rights. Posters here expect a high standard of debate on this very tough issue.

ETA before posting: Just seen your last post to me. So, yeah, that would fall under the category of evasion (now bolded above for reference).

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:31

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:21

My words are clear and accurate.

That you struggle with comprehension is neither my fault nor concern.

What I'm more interested in is the assertion by some posters that I am this AidaP person of whom I've absolutely never heard and know absolutely nothing about.

A shocking accusation.

it may seem shocking to you, but it is understandable when people read his posts and then your posts.

Unfortunately, for you, your claims about men who identify as women, your sex, your way of addressing the mainly women posters on FWR, along with your opening shot across the bows of "anti trans brigade" on your thread the other day means your posting styles appear to be too similar. Then add in that your user name according to a previous poster only came into existence after Aida was banned.

So whilst I haven't accused you of being him I can understand the many reasons why some posters may have reached the conclusion that you are the same person.

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:22

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:14

I too questioned my memory fror many years but the internet confirmed the truth - raisins were an integral part of the base from introduction in 1976 until the mid 80's when they were removed 'based on consumer feedback'

Hmmm, more like it's cheaper to make without them.

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 14:21

Catiette · 29/04/2026 13:40

Hazel, I'm the last to condemn wordiness (my biggest MN fault!), but in your rather resolute erudition, you're sometimes misusing words in a way that can undermine your content.

One example that did make me smile: "I understand your immediate, pathological fear - it's justifiable - but what difference does his behaviour make?"

I mean, without even knowing the meaning of pathological, there are some very mixed messages there. But with it...

pathological adjective (NOT CONTROLLED) (of a person) unable to control part of their behaviour; unreasonable: I've got a pathological fear of heights.
Anthony's a pathological liar.

Add your opening "You're getting confused again" in this context - the patronising tone rather enjoyably compounds the ironc - and some of your posts (like the essay one, for example) do start to feel a bit parodic. If this is your intention, cool, but if not, and you genuinely want serious engagement...

My words are clear and accurate.

That you struggle with comprehension is neither my fault nor concern.

What I'm more interested in is the assertion by some posters that I am this AidaP person of whom I've absolutely never heard and know absolutely nothing about.

A shocking accusation.

nois · 29/04/2026 14:14

they’re literally talking to themselves on blue sky, except for one or two echo chamber bot replies. What’s the appeal of bluesky?

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:14

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:11

I thought I imagined them in my memories. So they DID have raisins in them.

I too questioned my memory fror many years but the internet confirmed the truth - raisins were an integral part of the base from introduction in 1976 until the mid 80's when they were removed 'based on consumer feedback'

Boiledbeetle · 29/04/2026 14:11

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:08

I yearn for the halcyon days when the Double Decker had raisins in its base

I thought I imagined them in my memories. So they DID have raisins in them.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 29/04/2026 14:08

BackToLurk · 29/04/2026 14:03

The Poppet news really has made my day.

I yearn for the halcyon days when the Double Decker had raisins in its base

BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 14:08

BambooLampshade · 29/04/2026 13:35

This is the man, remember, who has reported a barrister to the Bar Standards Board, and thinks that TERFs should be raped with a splintery rolling pin

ETA: I have no idea why that GIF appeared, but it tracks.

Edited

I know it was unintentional but that gif did make me smile. Humour is very underrated imo.

BackToLurk · 29/04/2026 14:03

The Poppet news really has made my day.

BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 14:01

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 29/04/2026 13:48

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · Today 09:37

Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality

Today 09:53
I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man

I mean, that was said AFTER. It must be really hard trying to gaslight when it's literally out there for everyone to see.

I was assuming Hazel had admitted it on another thread and that poster had read it there. Feel free to do an AS though.

DialSquare · 29/04/2026 13:58

Beowulfa · 29/04/2026 13:57

Hazel started a thread all about being a transwoman. Have a read, if you fancy some arguments from 2016.

But not coherent ones.

Beowulfa · 29/04/2026 13:57

RufustheFactualReindeer · 29/04/2026 13:54

I mean, that was said AFTER. It must be really hard trying to gaslight when it's literally out there for everyone to see

hazel has already said they are a transwoman

Hazel started a thread all about being a transwoman. Have a read, if you fancy some arguments from 2016.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 29/04/2026 13:54

I mean, that was said AFTER. It must be really hard trying to gaslight when it's literally out there for everyone to see

hazel has already said they are a transwoman

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 29/04/2026 13:48

BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 13:42

I believe that was in reference to them saying this

HazelLemur · Today 09:53
BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · Today 09:37
Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality.
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I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man.

^
A transwomen is a man. For Hazel to state he is a woman is a valid reason to question their reality. The Spreme Court clarified men cannot be women.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · Today 09:37

Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality

Today 09:53
I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man

I mean, that was said AFTER. It must be really hard trying to gaslight when it's literally out there for everyone to see.

Sunloungerhogger · 29/04/2026 13:46

Beowulfa · 29/04/2026 08:46

To be fair, I had a hand-drawn table rating the ponies at my local riding stables on various criteria. When I was 11.

My DH and I have graded the cats we see out and about in our home village. Graded according to friendliness, chattiness, and overall majestic-ness. There is a top 10, and a top 5, but it does rotate depending on which cats are being a bit elusive for a while. The advent of spring and more sunshine has brought the regulars back out so I suspect our Cat Top Trumps will become more active again.

Catiette · 29/04/2026 13:44

I love the randomness you get from some of these threads.

From Hazel's first: the abiding image of Boiled Beetle reclining in her Iron Throne in crocs (no, still not converted).

And from this one, a happy Broon (and helpful reminder to me to order some, too! 😃)

BambooLampshade · 29/04/2026 13:43

BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 13:42

I believe that was in reference to them saying this

HazelLemur · Today 09:53
BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · Today 09:37
Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality.
Show quote history
I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man.

^
A transwomen is a man. For Hazel to state he is a woman is a valid reason to question their reality. The Spreme Court clarified men cannot be women.

I also wonder if Hazel realises he has committed actual genocide by calling himself a "transwoman", not a "trans woman".

Literal genocide, I tell you.

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BiologicalRobot · 29/04/2026 13:42

IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 29/04/2026 13:31

Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality

Just one posted towards this poster when all they'd posted was a post very much on topic (about whether it was illegal or not.)
Trying to gaslight them when words are in black and white?! As if lol.
Kind of proving their point.

I believe that was in reference to them saying this

HazelLemur · Today 09:53
BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · Today 09:37
Says the man with a very questionable grasp on reality.
Show quote history
I am a transwoman and a woman, not a man.

^
A transwomen is a man. For Hazel to state he is a woman is a valid reason to question their reality. The Spreme Court clarified men cannot be women.

Catiette · 29/04/2026 13:41

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 29/04/2026 13:29

You have made an Old Lady ver' ver' happy.

<<<rushes off to Amazon>>>

Yay! I was thrilled to discover it - spread the word!

Catiette · 29/04/2026 13:40

HazelLemur · 29/04/2026 12:34

You're getting confused again.

I did not tell you what to be concerned about; I literally posted a comment telling you your concern was understandable and justified.

That same comment, the one you failed to read, also asked whether it really mattered what he was doing and, regardless, laid out that there's not much we can do about it.

Again, did you miss the bit where I literally told you your concern was understandable and justified?

Hazel, I'm the last to condemn wordiness (my biggest MN fault!), but in your rather resolute erudition, you're sometimes misusing words in a way that can undermine your content.

One example that did make me smile: "I understand your immediate, pathological fear - it's justifiable - but what difference does his behaviour make?"

I mean, without even knowing the meaning of pathological, there are some very mixed messages there. But with it...

pathological adjective (NOT CONTROLLED) (of a person) unable to control part of their behaviour; unreasonable: I've got a pathological fear of heights.
Anthony's a pathological liar.

Add your opening "You're getting confused again" in this context - the patronising tone rather enjoyably compounds the ironc - and some of your posts (like the essay one, for example) do start to feel a bit parodic. If this is your intention, cool, but if not, and you genuinely want serious engagement...

unable

1. to not be able to do something: 2. to not be able to do something: 3. not…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/unable

DialSquare · 29/04/2026 13:38

As I said in the other thread, the man is obsessed with us. Most likely because the feeling isn’t mutual.

Sunloungerhogger · 29/04/2026 13:38

borntobequiet · 28/04/2026 22:31

Parking threads would be a rich mine of information and highly gradeable.

Oooo yes and maybe he could grade Cheeky Fuckery too, that is surely eminently gradeable.