What is in the water this week?! Glinner now making a mockery of the cause

I am not interested in your bad faith assertions that you want to have a conversation about my opinions. No, your entire approach is that I will say your magic words or you will denounce me.

Please stop badgering me. I do not wish to engage.

Hmm, ‘red herring’ and ‘strawman’ are terms that many people use too.

"there is no counter argument" there it is people, everything else is a gross and unnecessary ad hominem.

My lord, I believe "sealioning" is the term that young people use.

What magic words anyway? I’m just interested in your opinion, but you’re really defensive.

I’m sorry? Are we back to ‘everyone who disagrees with me must be a man’ shtick? I’ve been defending women and girls on this thread, so this is annoying more than usual.

And that if women don't, they deserve to be bashed and physically damaged.

And that as it's inevitable that women and girls get hurt, who even cares anyway? And if you do care, YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT WING PIPELINE.

It becomes very familiar after a while.

The expectation that women will always do what they're asked never dies, does it.

They all seem to love it.

And are apparently completely happy to confirm that these men are boundary violating cheats and predators, who simply won't take no for an answer.

I see no reason why I should respond positively to your demands to say your magic words.

This isn't your first rodeo. Don't you ever get tired of it?

It's an obsession. Some might say 'fetish', but I couldn't possibly comment.

“Genital inspections” such an exciting notion for some.

I’m not annoyed at all and I haven’t “come after you”. I’d just like to hear what you think about Trump and Glinner without the deviations into ‘the left does this’ or ‘Jimmy Kimmel that’, as that reads like a tribal, evasive tactic. Just say what you think.

good grief, can you imagine?

I think that's the problem.

The cheek swab, the simple, quick universal method for determining sex that used to be applied in women's sport and now will be again, clearly isn't exciting enough for these people. Nor are they willing to admit that women are far better at telling the sex of other humans, for obvious evolutionary reasons.

Presumably because that would require levels of self control, understanding & complying with society's laws and regulations and respecting that others have rights?

It seems that the above are sadly absent in the lives of those determined to breach boundaries and trample over the rights of others.

And yes - what is this obsession with genital checks? Society managed single sex spaces for ever and then suddenly there's these repeatedly creepy mentions of genital checks from those obsessed with gender identity. It's like 5 years olds and poo jokes. Very odd.

They don’t pass, @TransParentlyAnnoyed. none of them, ever. Not even the skinny twinky ones, they always look like what they are, male. No need to inspect anything, good grief, can you imagine?

Aaah right @TransParentlyAnnoyed

But you said Sharron was attempting to stop ‘gnc women’ from running in the park.

What you really meant was Sharron wants to stop trans identifying males from entering in the female category, which is completely different.

Nobody is being prevented from running - just being stopped from cheating and taking things that don’t belong to them.

And no need for ‘genital inspections’ (why are TRAs obsessed with this idea? See Kirsti Miller for his disgusting views on SRY testing for athletes) - how about TIMs just enter in the correct sex category?

Simples.

That's an interesting one. I used to volunteer a lot at our local junior parkrun when it was first getting established. Based on what I saw of the parents, you wouldn't need to wait for the Run Director to query the age of an obvious adult participant not there to support an under-14 and attempting to get scanned at the end. The parents would be up in arms.

Amongst my sadness about the funeral of Baby Auckland yesterday, I was interested to see they were able to tell this was a baby boy. He’d been hidden over a hundred years ago, and yet they could tell.

In general parkrunners don't even know what category someone is running in on the day. Everyone runs together and swipes their barcode at the end. People are trusted to register with the correct age, and currently permitted to register in any "gender" they choose. It would hardly be a big change to trust them to register with the correct sex too.

If a 20 yr old registered with age 12 and grabbed all the junior course records would someone from parkrun officially query it? I think they would probably get discreetly removed from the records to give real kids a chance. Should be the same with men in the women's category.

You have come after me repeatedly on this thread going "Look at this disgraceful retweet Glinner did! Will you condemn his disgusting retweet! Why aren't you condemning Glinner! Eh! Eh!"

Combined with a meta-commentary about how discussing the context of Glinner's retweet - you know, yet another assassination attempt on the US president, with the shooter posting a manifesto that reads exactly like a Jimmy Kimmel monologue - is off topic.

You seem to get very annoyed when you're on a thread and anyone resists you badgering them into saying your magic words.

You might not be familiar with FWR if you think that "say my magic words or I'll call you far right" is a strategy for winning friends and influencing people. Over the years it's become boringly predictable.

Why would rational people in a civilised society think people who didn't believe in gender stereotypes were unhinged imbeciles? Why would rational people in a civilised society think that it was unhinged to believe there are two sexes and which one you are is fixed by biology and not a matter of choice? Both views are mainstream.
Obviously some unhinged imbeciles will be amongst the people who think this, because some views are so commonplace and widely held that it would be impossible for no unhinged imbeciles to also hold them, like believing the earth isn't flat, for example. Some people who know the earth isn't flat are unhinged imbeciles, the vast majority are not. Same with any mainstream view.

Just to be clear, you're worried that Glinner's latest unhinged imbecility might cause people to start thinking of the GC brigade as unhinged imbeciles?

Oh honey, rational people in a civilised society have always held that view