What is in the water this week?! Glinner now making a mockery of the cause

I understand. Ignoring the men, it's terribly important that women speak in gentle, kind tones, are never shrill, show understanding and are always kind.
What was it that Rebecca West said over 100 years ago?

"I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is: I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat"

Sadly women are still seen in this way today.

Quite, and in this particular mis spelling, I always assume it is trying to reduce her to the 80s stereotype of a blonde Essex girl, and not a sportswoman who's been through a lifetime of drug cheats and suffered accordingly, and knows whereof she speaks.

It's not about you though, is it? It's about correcting a mistake that you made in a thread on a public forum. Accuracy matters, as does the courtesy of spelling people's names correctly. There is nothing to stop you simply acknowledging what is, no doubt, a common error and moving on.
Saying hi to everyone who spells Keir (Starmer) 'Kier' too😘

The key thing to understand about the far right accusation is it is not based on anything anyone is doing. It's a deliberate attempt to cast mud and try to stop people from listening to GC voices. One that's very much rooted in US politics I strongly suspect.

The three you mention may believe that humans can't change sex but I wouldn't class them as gender critical

Because I have a name that frequently gets spelled incorrectly and it doesn't bother me one iota.

I wasn't calling Linehan et al far-right. What I was doing very badly is trying to explain that I get frustrated that because of the methods that Linehan, Davies etc employ, they get accused of being far right.
Those far-right voices that I am sick of hearing like Hopkins, Walsh, Fox, who do voice quite strong, offensive rhetoric, (not just about trans ideology) do the cause of the moderates, those of us who just believe in biology, no good. Those other, less conventional, stronger personalities then end up being tarnished and really, by extension, make the rest of us look like lunatics.

@MissusSimonNeil Why on earth did you feel the need to correct me?

You spelled her name wrong. Why do you have a problem with being corrected?

Who are the far right GC commentators that you are referring to?

I don't disagree - but it's the Linehans of this world that capture attention through their irreverent and controversial behaviour. It does those of us who consider ourselves moderate no favours at all. We all look like raving lunatics. That's why I'm saying more Emma Hiltons, etc and less of the far-right commentators - let's hear a bit more of the reasoned argument and less of the invective.

I think different styles of convincing are needed because we need different people to be convinced. I find the calm arguments of a Helen Joyce or an Emma Hilton utterly compelling. Clearly others are more convinced by emotional appeals or irreverent humour.

Why on earth did you feel the need to correct me?

It's not fascinating at all, because it's just basic biology. I just wish the more moderate voices could make themselves heard a bit more. I hate that fact that GCs are labelled far right when that's not my position at all.

It's fascinating isn't it, the range of people who have in common the fact that they know humans cannot change sex? It's almost as if it is blindingly obvious to everyone, whatever their personality/sex/political affiliation.

PS It's Sharron

I'm GC and people like Linehan make me want to stick my head in a bucket of boiling piss. He's arrogant, obnoxious and downright objectionable. He does nothing but make us look like raving lunatics. (I realise how much of a lunatic I appear talking about sticking my head in a bucket of piss).

What this fight needs is rational, calm, fact-based arguments. What this fight needs is far more Emma Hiltons and far fewer Julia Hartley-Brewers. Even Sharon Davies makes me cringe.

I take male claims to be a woman equally seriously as I would take their claims to be Napoleon.

What you are, entirely unsurprising, missing is that women do not need other people to tell them that they're a woman!
You have no idea what it's like to live in a woman's body. The result of internal organs and female anatomy, day in, day out. Effecting numerous, constant decision making. None of which involves 'as a man I would like to, need to...' etc.

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There is a false dichotomy being created that either you pretend boys are girls on their say so or you allow bullying of boys who believe they're girls.

Or if you don't pretend, you are bullying.

The hyperbolic emotional blackmail has run its course, no one is buying it any more.

Or vice versa obviously.

There is a false dichotomy being created that either you pretend boys are girls on their say so or you allow bullying of boys who believe they're girls. Clear policies are best for everyone and actually most likely to reduce bullying. It takes the burden of keeping themselves safe and protecting their privacy and dignity off girls, and that frees them up to be friendly and supportive.

What you are, entirely unsurprising, missing is that women do not need other people to tell them that they're a woman!

You have no idea what it's like to live in a woman's body. The result of internal organs and female anatomy, day in, day out. Effecting numerous, constant decision making. None of which involves 'as a man I would like to, need to...' etc.

There are 6500 genetic differences between women and men, none of which involves the opinions of your friends either, funnily enough.

Men like you and trans-parent effectively burnt through any and all leeway women were prepared to offer. You can forget it.

For me, 'being a woman' describes the state of having spent my life in a female body, and the experiences and treatment that has occurred as a direct result of that, and only as a result of that.
So it's impossible for a person who hasnt spent their life in a female body to have that in common with me.
A TW may have some things in common with me. They may like certain activities our society has decided are female coded, which I do too.
They may like to present their outward appearance in a way our society has decided is female coded, as do I.
They may prefer the idea of being a woman to being a man, which, despite us not being the fortunate ones, I also do.
But these are superficial things that don't define womanhood, because they are personality traits or the adoption of societal norms, either via socialialistion (women) or choice (TW).
TW may have suffered from violence and harassment at the hands of men, as have I. And while the impact on us may give us a shared experience of fear, violation and trauma, the causes are different. We are victims of men due to misogyny or predation. You, due to toxic masculinity.
While we may find common ground in the impact of these behaviours, the causes are fundamentally different. TW experience problem behaviour from misogynist men because they are not women. We experience it because we are.

The emperor is naked and he's got his penis out in the women's changing rooms

Even if that is true (I doubt it) and everyone you know is colluding in your delusion, the Emperor is still naked.

And what about the right of female people's dignity? You don't care about that, do you?

Still getting that those singing excercises in my head. Me me me me me meeeeee.