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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · 24/04/2026 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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MyFellowScroller · 26/04/2026 11:33

@MrsOvertonsWindow
Men like Tom in influential government positions working with schools / children explain why transactivist groups were able to run amok in schools gaslighting children that sex change was a legitimate life decision, untruths like puberty blockers are reversible and insisting that girls must undress alongside men and boys or they're small minded bigots.
Yes agree this is the kind of person that @SingleSexinSchools is up against in Brighton

MrsOvertonsWindow · 26/04/2026 11:24

MyFellowScroller · 26/04/2026 11:13

One of the existing Trustees at Scope is Tom Seddon. On the Scope website his Bio is:- Tom has built his career in the public sector. He works closely with Ministers and senior leaders in multiple government Departments to serve the public. His experiences range from LGBT+ policy at the Cabinet Office, to stakeholder and trade union engagement at the Department for Education.

Tom is currently the Head of Legislative Strategy at the Department for Education. He leads a team to deliver the Department’s legislative agenda. He also ensures cross-Government priorities are achieved.

He has over 7 years experience as a school governor, and is former trustee of a large theatre in West Yorkshire. Tom was previously a middle leader and teacher at a large Multi-Academy Trust.

When Tom was a teenager, he helped out at his local Scope charity shop because the charity had supported his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

Tom is a Member of the Impact Committee.

Men like Tom in influential government positions working with schools / children explain why transactivist groups were able to run amok in schools gaslighting children that sex change was a legitimate life decision, untruths like puberty blockers are reversible and insisting that girls must undress alongside men and boys or they're small minded bigots. 😡

DialSquare · 26/04/2026 11:19

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

And fucked SCOPE right off. Good for her.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 11:17

MyFellowScroller · 26/04/2026 11:13

One of the existing Trustees at Scope is Tom Seddon. On the Scope website his Bio is:- Tom has built his career in the public sector. He works closely with Ministers and senior leaders in multiple government Departments to serve the public. His experiences range from LGBT+ policy at the Cabinet Office, to stakeholder and trade union engagement at the Department for Education.

Tom is currently the Head of Legislative Strategy at the Department for Education. He leads a team to deliver the Department’s legislative agenda. He also ensures cross-Government priorities are achieved.

He has over 7 years experience as a school governor, and is former trustee of a large theatre in West Yorkshire. Tom was previously a middle leader and teacher at a large Multi-Academy Trust.

When Tom was a teenager, he helped out at his local Scope charity shop because the charity had supported his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

Tom is a Member of the Impact Committee.

Yes and when you dig down further you can see that Tom was extremely influential www.civilservice.lgbt/team/tom-seddon

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
MyFellowScroller · 26/04/2026 11:13

One of the existing Trustees at Scope is Tom Seddon. On the Scope website his Bio is:- Tom has built his career in the public sector. He works closely with Ministers and senior leaders in multiple government Departments to serve the public. His experiences range from LGBT+ policy at the Cabinet Office, to stakeholder and trade union engagement at the Department for Education.

Tom is currently the Head of Legislative Strategy at the Department for Education. He leads a team to deliver the Department’s legislative agenda. He also ensures cross-Government priorities are achieved.

He has over 7 years experience as a school governor, and is former trustee of a large theatre in West Yorkshire. Tom was previously a middle leader and teacher at a large Multi-Academy Trust.

When Tom was a teenager, he helped out at his local Scope charity shop because the charity had supported his sister, who has cerebral palsy.

Tom is a Member of the Impact Committee.

MyFellowScroller · 26/04/2026 11:11

An opportunity to generate a few castrati from the new choir volunteers?
For musical balance of course.

soupycustard · 26/04/2026 10:53

bonfireoftheverities · 26/04/2026 09:16

I'm sure she's smart enough to outwit these idiots, who are probably just blowing off steam, but you never know.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1svqi4w/terf_janet_murray_is_looking_for_volunteers_for/
(A call to infiltrate the choir to embarrass her.)

This silliness is so typical of TRAs. I'm sure Janet would have no issue with trans-identified people singing with her choir, as long as they could sing well enough to be there. It's not like it was her who flounced. It's Scope that flounced. Ffs. These people are so narcissistic. All this 'oooh imagine how upset terfs are by our very existence'. No we're not. Just keep your male hands off our female rights. Other than that, live your life however you want. I literally don't give a toss and am utterly uninterested in your wardrobe choices or whether you like spicy sex. You bunch of narcissist toddlers.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 10:21

BusyAzureTraybake · 26/04/2026 10:15

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/trustees

Scope looking for a new Chair of Trustees
Do we know if this pre- or post-dates the choir cancellation?

Edited

It pre dates

BusyAzureTraybake · 26/04/2026 10:15

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/trustees

Scope looking for a new Chair of Trustees
Do we know if this pre- or post-dates the choir cancellation?

Trustees | Disability charity Scope UK

The Board of Trustees set Scope's strategy and manage the charity.

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/trustees

BusyAzureTraybake · 26/04/2026 10:12

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 09:20

You're completely right but the CEO, senior staff and trustees of Scope are all part of the lanyardocracy. All the big charity infrastructure bodies like NCVO, ACEVO & NAVCA are captured as are all the big funders like comic relief and the lottery along with the NHS, central and local government. The charity press is all captured as well.

they move within a bubble - they all read the guardian, they're bombarded with TWAW propaganda from within and without thanks to the charity sector revolving wheel of senior staff and trustees.

they will literally never have heard anyone tell them different and they will never have given it more thought than "everyone tells us it's like being gay and anyone who doesn't agree supports trump/votes reform"

I agree with this. It is surely the only explanation for this sort of fuck up, which will have alienated (to use their own word) people wherever they stand, or don't stand, on these issues.
Their bubble is so big that they didn't even know they were in one. Well, hopefully they do now. Especially if a good number of donations and legacies got cancelled, because it will harder for them to square the 'far-right fascist image' with the 'gives donations to a disability charity' image.

RoyalCorgi · 26/04/2026 10:11

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 09:20

You're completely right but the CEO, senior staff and trustees of Scope are all part of the lanyardocracy. All the big charity infrastructure bodies like NCVO, ACEVO & NAVCA are captured as are all the big funders like comic relief and the lottery along with the NHS, central and local government. The charity press is all captured as well.

they move within a bubble - they all read the guardian, they're bombarded with TWAW propaganda from within and without thanks to the charity sector revolving wheel of senior staff and trustees.

they will literally never have heard anyone tell them different and they will never have given it more thought than "everyone tells us it's like being gay and anyone who doesn't agree supports trump/votes reform"

Absolutely. The other point of course is that there will be lots of people working for Scope who don't agree with this nonsense. But the Scope CEO and his lanyard-wearing chums won't be aware of them because these people remain silent for the obvious reason that they've seen what happens to people like Janet Murray who dare to speak out. So, hilariously, having created an environment where everyone is too frightened to disagree with him, Mr CEO thinks everyone agrees with him. He's in for a nasty shock if he ever finds himself back in the real world.

SirChenjins · 26/04/2026 09:33

SCOPEismisogynistic · 26/04/2026 09:27

I love that you kept an eye on the little rapscallion & MN gave him his marching orders.

Was it Pom, I wonder? That poster seemed quite strident in their views on women.

SCOPEismisogynistic · 26/04/2026 09:27

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 09:18

I think he was banned as AidaP after the rolling pin discovery and then I strongly suspected he was posting under another account so I asked MN to check. It would seem I guessed right as the 2nd account has also vanished. Mumsnet is a place for open debate but that doesn’t give someone the right to shout everyone down with endless pointless arguments. It’s was verbal and not pejorative but the volume of posting was harassing imo

I love that you kept an eye on the little rapscallion & MN gave him his marching orders.

AccordingToWhom · 26/04/2026 09:21

The men just cannot leave her alone.

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person
Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 09:20

RoyalCorgi · 26/04/2026 09:12

That's very funny, but probably true.

Obviously the worst thing about this is the shockingly unethical way Scope have behaved. But it's also alarming to see how little they understand - they genuinely don't see that they have done anything wrong. So having probably spotted a good deal of adverse public reaction, and having possibly noticed people cancelling their direct debits, their next move was to describe Janet Murray's views as "polarising".

Now we all know from polling that Janet's views are actually in line, not just with the law of the land, but the vast majority of people in the UK. Furthermore, where there is a difference in viewpoint, it tends to skew by age, so that older women are more likely to agree with Janet, while sympathy for trans activist views are more common amongst the young.

Let's have a think about which demographic are most likely to donate to charity shops and set up direct debits to charity? Who are most likely to name a charity in their will? Why, yes, that's right - middle-aged and older women. In other words, the same demographic who are also most likely to hold the same views as Janet.

I keep thinking: can they really be that stupid? And I've come to the conclusion: Yes, they can. They really can.

You're completely right but the CEO, senior staff and trustees of Scope are all part of the lanyardocracy. All the big charity infrastructure bodies like NCVO, ACEVO & NAVCA are captured as are all the big funders like comic relief and the lottery along with the NHS, central and local government. The charity press is all captured as well.

they move within a bubble - they all read the guardian, they're bombarded with TWAW propaganda from within and without thanks to the charity sector revolving wheel of senior staff and trustees.

they will literally never have heard anyone tell them different and they will never have given it more thought than "everyone tells us it's like being gay and anyone who doesn't agree supports trump/votes reform"

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 09:18

EmpressaurusKitty · 26/04/2026 05:24

He seems to have stopped posting on here, at least.

I think he was banned as AidaP after the rolling pin discovery and then I strongly suspected he was posting under another account so I asked MN to check. It would seem I guessed right as the 2nd account has also vanished. Mumsnet is a place for open debate but that doesn’t give someone the right to shout everyone down with endless pointless arguments. It’s was verbal and not pejorative but the volume of posting was harassing imo

MarieDeGournay · 26/04/2026 09:16

nicepotoftea · 26/04/2026 09:10

"Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating."

Gender critical views: women need rights and should not be stuffed in gender boxes. Just ordinary bog standard Guardian Women's page feminism until 10 years ago.

Agree, and is McLachlan suggesting that the unscientific claims that sex is a spectrum/TWAW/people can change sex/ 'gendered soul' etc etc are NOT polarising?
He must be completely out of touch with society and public opinion if he's being so selective in his use of the word 'polarising' in this context.

bonfireoftheverities · 26/04/2026 09:16

BusyAzureTraybake · 25/04/2026 23:42

x.com/jan_murray/status/2048152951580152164

Think I'm almost there with choir numbers - thanks everyone. I'll share more over the next few days (busy writing a briefing note for the choir). But the
@SpeechUnion and their lawyers have been working behind the scenes on mine - and the choir's behalf - over the past few days. While I don't think this chapter is closed, what they've achieved in such a short space of time feels remarkable.

I'm sure she's smart enough to outwit these idiots, who are probably just blowing off steam, but you never know.
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1svqi4w/terf_janet_murray_is_looking_for_volunteers_for/
(A call to infiltrate the choir to embarrass her.)

MyFellowScroller · 26/04/2026 09:12

I have sent an email complaining of their action to Scope. They will ignore it but they might count how many support their actions and how many object.
Not done any gardening lately but willing to on this. Scope are a very big organisation and need to be held to account.
Depending on the way it develops this might become a lengthy campaign.

RoyalCorgi · 26/04/2026 09:12

Dollymylove · 26/04/2026 07:14

One would think that these big corporations/charities/whatever would learn from previous poor decisions, but some just seem to bulldoze on regardlessly.
Pretty sure the Scope CEO paused counting his huge salary for a while to witness the huge pile of horse shit that was raining down on his head 😊

That's very funny, but probably true.

Obviously the worst thing about this is the shockingly unethical way Scope have behaved. But it's also alarming to see how little they understand - they genuinely don't see that they have done anything wrong. So having probably spotted a good deal of adverse public reaction, and having possibly noticed people cancelling their direct debits, their next move was to describe Janet Murray's views as "polarising".

Now we all know from polling that Janet's views are actually in line, not just with the law of the land, but the vast majority of people in the UK. Furthermore, where there is a difference in viewpoint, it tends to skew by age, so that older women are more likely to agree with Janet, while sympathy for trans activist views are more common amongst the young.

Let's have a think about which demographic are most likely to donate to charity shops and set up direct debits to charity? Who are most likely to name a charity in their will? Why, yes, that's right - middle-aged and older women. In other words, the same demographic who are also most likely to hold the same views as Janet.

I keep thinking: can they really be that stupid? And I've come to the conclusion: Yes, they can. They really can.

nicepotoftea · 26/04/2026 09:10

"Gender-critical views are highly polarising and we are sensitive to the fact that for some of our valued members, supporters and colleagues, gender-critical beliefs may be deeply upsetting and alienating."

Gender critical views: women need rights and should not be stuffed in gender boxes. Just ordinary bog standard Guardian Women's page feminism until 10 years ago.

Dollymylove · 26/04/2026 07:14

One would think that these big corporations/charities/whatever would learn from previous poor decisions, but some just seem to bulldoze on regardlessly.
Pretty sure the Scope CEO paused counting his huge salary for a while to witness the huge pile of horse shit that was raining down on his head 😊

EmpressaurusKitty · 26/04/2026 05:24

SCOPEismisogynistic · 26/04/2026 04:51

Splintered / splintery rolling pin if I recall. Lovely lovely lady*.

*By lady I mean man. Definitely a man. No diggity no doubt.

He seems to have stopped posting on here, at least.

SCOPEismisogynistic · 26/04/2026 04:51

plantcomplex · 25/04/2026 23:19

Are Scope oblivious to the men calling for GC women to be raped with rolling pins when a) denouncing these women publicly and calling them "polarising" and "alienating" for their respectable protected beliefs, and b) offering support to the men supposedly distressed by the terrifying prospect of GC women being permitted to sing supportive songs in a public space?

I wouldn't want to attend if I was a member of that choir either after having Scope paint a target on them for violent men.

Splintered / splintery rolling pin if I recall. Lovely lovely lady*.

*By lady I mean man. Definitely a man. No diggity no doubt.