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Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person

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singthing · 24/04/2026 16:18

Choir dropped from London Marathon over founder’s ‘gender-critical views’
Charity cancels singers who raise runners’ spirits owing to Janet Murray’s opposition to gender ideology

A choir has been dropped from the London Marathon over a member’s gender-critical views.

The Singing Striders are frequently booked to stand on the sidelines and raise the spirits of runners, and the group had been invited to support the upcoming marathon by Scope, a leading disability charity.

However, the amateur ensemble was dropped because a single member had been critical of gender ideology.

This is the view that gender is defined by self-identification, rather than biological sex, meaning that those born male can become women.

Janet Murray, the choir founder, was informed that her opposition to this worldview went against Scope’s “commitment to diversity and inclusion”.

Charity bosses also told her “we are concerned about your views because we don’t agree with your views”.

As a writer and journalist, Murray has publicly expressed concerns about the inclusion of biological males in women’s sports and organisations such as Girlguiding.

It is understood that the decision to cancel the choir, which was to perform for no fee, came after Scope received two anonymous complaints about these opinions.

The charity has since defended its stance as it is “committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people”.

Janet Murray, the writer
Murray says it is ironic that Scope should bring politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners Credit: Belinda Jiao
Ms Murray told The Telegraph: “When cancel culture finds its way into something as joyful as a choir singing for marathon runners, it’s a sobering reminder of how insidious it can be.

“My choir exists to lift people up, helping them through the hardest moments as they raise money for charity. I’ve run the London Marathon myself, and I know how much that support means.”

The writer said that while she did have gender-critical views, they did not enter into her work with the choir, adding: “I leave politics at home when I’m with the choir – and so does everyone else.

“Ironically, it’s Scope that’s brought politics into a space that was simply about supporting charity runners – effectively silencing a choir in the process.”

The cancellation came despite the Singing Striders performing for Scope at past marathons without incident.

The London Marathon has several “cheer points” along the route to boost the morale of runners, and Scope has two dedicated spaces this year, at Tower Hill and Woolwich

The London Marathon will take place on Sunday
The London Marathon will take place on Sunday Credit: Karwai Tang/WireImage
The Singing Striders were set to raise a chorus at the mile-three cheer point in Woolwich, performing from 8.30am to 1pm, with minor expenses for travel covered by Scope.

The choir had practised for months ahead of the marathon, and members were understood to be surprised and disappointed by the decision, and hopeful that an organisation might come forward to offer them a space at the event on Sunday.

Critics of gender ideology have been subjected to cancellation since the issue of transgender identities emerged into public consciousness, with figures such as Graham Linehan, the Father Ted co-writer, being an early victim of censoriousness.

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In 2024, the debate shifted again when the Cass review cautioned against rushing children into life-changing gender transitions, particularly with the use of potentially harmful puberty blockers.

Scope has defended its decision to cancel the marathon choir, stating that the move “reflects where we stand as an organisation and our commitment to our colleagues, volunteers and supporters”.

John McLachlan, Scope’s chief executive, said: “Concerns were raised to us about the views of the founder and director of Singing Striders, a choir who were due to volunteer to perform for us at the London Marathon. After consideration, we took the decision to not have their choir perform on our behalf.

“We understand and respect the right for people to hold different views about inclusion. At Scope, we are committed to the equality and inclusion of trans and non-binary disabled people. We have trans and non-binary colleagues, volunteers and supporters.

“Scope is committed to equality and inclusion. Our EDI policy sets out our commitment to be an inclusive employer and inclusive charity.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views/
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/04/24/choir-dropped-london-marathon-founder-gender-critical-views

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DrBlackbird · 27/04/2026 18:06

It was this thread GHC was extremely vocal and, I thought, had intimated that they were black:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5518795-still-asleep-at-the-wheel-a-further-examination-of-gender-and-safeguarding-in-schools-policy-exchange?reply=151789037

PrettyDamnCosmic · 27/04/2026 18:02

Archive version to evade the paywall.

archive.ph/AC1kP

DrBlackbird · 27/04/2026 17:56

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 09:18

I think he was banned as AidaP after the rolling pin discovery and then I strongly suspected he was posting under another account so I asked MN to check. It would seem I guessed right as the 2nd account has also vanished. Mumsnet is a place for open debate but that doesn’t give someone the right to shout everyone down with endless pointless arguments. It’s was verbal and not pejorative but the volume of posting was harassing imo

Wait, what? Glovehandcelia was AidaP? But in one post, Glovehandcelia said they were a black woman. So not only appropriating womanhood but appropriating another race? They were a prolific poster.

SirChenjins · 27/04/2026 12:58

singthing · 27/04/2026 12:33

"Frequently they post things that just don’t sound like women"

Like, "I have a certificate that says I am a woman"? 😆

That one 😂

And then you see photos of them and it's clear why they need that certificate...

singthing · 27/04/2026 12:33

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 19:09

oh i dont “know” anything. Dont quote me - i just had strong suspicions and Ive not seen that poster since - but then again Ive not been on here much this week.

what I would say is that there seem to be posters who come on posting an oblique reference to one comment amd then drone on and on amd on, getting increasingly TRA as they go on. Frequently they post things that just don’t sound like women - well not any I know anyway - difficult to explain but they sound like they have “book knowledge” rather than practical real life experience. And when they get queries the answers look like something pasted from ChatGPT…but maybe im just paranoid 🤣

"Frequently they post things that just don’t sound like women"

Like, "I have a certificate that says I am a woman"? 😆

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JulesJules · 27/04/2026 07:33

soupycustard · 25/04/2026 20:26

Am no longer on X but there was a very impressive young woman with a disability who used to tweet about the need to feel confident in same sex intimate care. So many people are so ageist as well as ableist that there's often an assumption that 'carer' means a carer for the elderly, and so it was incredibly powerful to have a young woman trying to maintain her independence as well as her dignity. Wish I could remember her twitterX name.

Henrietta Freeman? (@Hen10Freeman on X)

Ariana12 · 26/04/2026 22:05

Lovelyview · 25/04/2026 19:07

Good luck! Does Scope have a position on disabled women's right to single sex care?

Just coming on to say good luck too!

SirChenjins · 26/04/2026 21:09

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 14:14

It was Gloved something or other that set off my spidey senses. And they were accusing others of having “sock puppet” accounts which didnt exactly sound like any middle aged women I know…

Oh yes, I remember the many posts from GHC - that would make perfect sense.

ScrollingLeaves · 26/04/2026 20:31

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 11:17

Yes and when you dig down further you can see that Tom was extremely influential www.civilservice.lgbt/team/tom-seddon

^Prior to joining the Civil Service, I taught at a primary school in West Yorkshire.
In all of my roles, I have been involved in a range of LGBT+ networks, and I was previously Chair of Teach First’s LGBT+ Network^

Can you imagine anything worse for children than this? It just shows how extensively transactivism has been injected into schools. Trans grooming of vulnerable children writ large within education.

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 19:09

solerolover · 26/04/2026 16:44

Glovedhandscecilia right? So that account was also AidaP? If so, that's even more disturbing and offensive, seeing as they repeatedly talked about being a black woman, often bringing it up as a way to shut down conversation.

oh i dont “know” anything. Dont quote me - i just had strong suspicions and Ive not seen that poster since - but then again Ive not been on here much this week.

what I would say is that there seem to be posters who come on posting an oblique reference to one comment amd then drone on and on amd on, getting increasingly TRA as they go on. Frequently they post things that just don’t sound like women - well not any I know anyway - difficult to explain but they sound like they have “book knowledge” rather than practical real life experience. And when they get queries the answers look like something pasted from ChatGPT…but maybe im just paranoid 🤣

BusyAzureTraybake · 26/04/2026 17:24

DontStopMe · 26/04/2026 16:54

Fantastic news. So glad they got a group together. I hope Julia Long did some dancing😁

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 26/04/2026 17:21

DontStopMe · 26/04/2026 16:54

Thanks for sharing, they do look like they enjoyed themselves, it's the best response to nasty, narrow minded, killjoys, well done them. 😁🥳

I also heard on the news that 2 men passed the finish line in under 2 hrs, record breaking, perhaps their singing helped put some speed into their trainers. 😂

DontStopMe · 26/04/2026 16:54

Looks like they had a great day.

https://nitter.net/jan_murray/status/2048403860129996892

CassOle · 26/04/2026 16:52

solerolover · 26/04/2026 16:44

Glovedhandscecilia right? So that account was also AidaP? If so, that's even more disturbing and offensive, seeing as they repeatedly talked about being a black woman, often bringing it up as a way to shut down conversation.

... and everything falls into place.

ETA - I did wonder myself if that poster (Gloved) was geniune or not.

solerolover · 26/04/2026 16:47

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

This is so good to see! She should never have been punished by Scope in the first place, I'm glad she and the other volunteers are doing what they love independently of that organisation.

solerolover · 26/04/2026 16:44

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 14:14

It was Gloved something or other that set off my spidey senses. And they were accusing others of having “sock puppet” accounts which didnt exactly sound like any middle aged women I know…

Glovedhandscecilia right? So that account was also AidaP? If so, that's even more disturbing and offensive, seeing as they repeatedly talked about being a black woman, often bringing it up as a way to shut down conversation.

IdaGlossop · 26/04/2026 16:27

I emailed SCOPE yesterday, before the lawyer-powered change of heart. Today, I raised a concern with the Charity Commission (easy o line form; hope lots of people complete it). SCOPE has lost sight of the basics: the interests of the vast majority of its service users, and the law of the land. Janet Murray is highly professional and has shown great courage for months in dealing with online abuse, the loss of her business, and a cancer diagnosis. I'm pleased for her she is getting commissions from TheTelegraph.

lcakethereforeIam · 26/04/2026 14:56

AccordingToWhom · 26/04/2026 09:21

The men just cannot leave her alone.

If they can carry a tune, get along, follow directions and aren't dressed like sex clowns I suspect they'd be welcome.

KnottyAuty · 26/04/2026 14:14

SirChenjins · 26/04/2026 09:33

Was it Pom, I wonder? That poster seemed quite strident in their views on women.

It was Gloved something or other that set off my spidey senses. And they were accusing others of having “sock puppet” accounts which didnt exactly sound like any middle aged women I know…

singthing · 26/04/2026 13:13

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/04/2026 11:14

Janet is there - just posted on x

Given the previous spot was in a high profile dedicated/branded (presumably) space, the fences and stages would have gone up in advance. Does anyone know what is there instead - or just an empty plinth?

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DontStopMe · 26/04/2026 12:20

It's great the Janet is out there supporting the runners and not supporting Scope. I watched some of the elite races - amazing finishes to the women's and men's races.

BusyAzureTraybake · 26/04/2026 12:08

Janet Murray has a buymeacoffee link on her twitter account. She is a freelancer, so every little helps

Thank you for supporting Janet Murray!
Thanks so much for your support ❤️. I’m currently writing and podcasting my way through breast cancer, cancellation and the slow, real-time rebuild. Knowing something I’ve shared has resonated - or helped you feel a little less alone - makes this work feel worth doing. I aim post new writing and podcast episodes weekly at janetmurray.substack.com if you'd like to read or listen. Thanks again. Janet x

Cailleach1 · 26/04/2026 11:46

That chappie Tom states that he has been active wrt LGBTQ etc. in all his roles. So that would appear to be the common thread, and raison d’être, of his involvement. It doesn’t give you much confidence that he is interested in the professed purpose of the organisation. One could be forgiven for thinking blokes such as he are primarily involved to push whatever his mission is wrt LGBTQ etc.

Take, for example, women and children. Women and children who need trustworthy and safe care might not have their rights and needs upheld. Indeed, it seems to be the aim of such activists to introduce the policy that it is hateful to uphold the rights of women and children. Certainly when it conflicts with some dude’s wish to bring himself and his bits (and whatever intentions) along to access spaces where women and children are vulnerable. It just feels it is more to do with the thrashing of the rights of women and children.

And, onto the next org to do the same thing. Dude’s charter to walk all over women and children’s rights - in the name of progress and inclusion, of course.

I’m sure many a lesbian thinks such men’s privilege activists have some nerve to use the L and B. All abuses towards the rights of women and children appear to acceptable attrition.

borntobequiet · 26/04/2026 11:38

EmpressaurusKitty · 26/04/2026 05:24

He seems to have stopped posting on here, at least.

I think there might have been a name change, but he - AidaP - has a very identifiable style and tone. Here’s a reminder of the rolling pin (which might be a very lame attempt at a violent pun).

Scope is punishing women for wrongthink - Whole choir cancelled from London Marathon because of personal GC views of one person