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No rape took place outside Epsom church, claim police

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PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 20:38

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86ezy3qvjno

Either that or the police intimidated the victim into retracting her claims for the sake of quelling the riots.

'they now believe the woman concerned "sustained an accidental head injury" following a night out and made "a confused report".

Being gangraped is hardly the sort of thing a woman would get 'confused' about. This is absolutely outrageous.

A church built with stone. There is a sign in front of the building.

No rape took place outside Epsom church, say Surrey Police

The force says the woman concerned had injured her head on a night out and made 'a confused report'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86ezy3qvjno

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PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 22:42

The amount of 'people' in here condescendingly 'wishing her well' while also condemning her by insisting that the police are telling the truth is so vile

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PinkFrogss · 23/04/2026 22:37

If it’s a police cover up then with all the media attention the case has gotten it wouldn’t stay covered up for long.

There would need to be so many people involved willing to remain quiet, and you’d think at least one of them would speak up because hopefully they care about getting justice for this woman and the safety of other women, or if that not then to continue the agenda of the protests that were held there.

Regardless, I hope the woman gets the help she clearly needs.

Terfedout · 23/04/2026 22:34

PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 22:29

Never question anything because the police are saints incapable of lying or manipulating victims

Yeah, that's exactly what I said 🤣 🤔

Police vs nut job conspiracy theorists. I must admit, it's a toughie.

PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 22:30

WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:28

I’m saying the conspiracy theorists are the ones insisting the police are lying for some reason.

Is getting gangraped something likely for a woman to just 'get wrong' and be confused about? Come on, they're trying to suppress the riots.

Our little female ditzy brains often confuse a rough night out for a gangrape

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WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:29

PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 22:29

Never question anything because the police are saints incapable of lying or manipulating victims

That’s not what anyone has said.

PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 22:29

Terfedout · 23/04/2026 22:26

I hope this whole thread gets deleted. It's disgusting. Unfounded and ridiculous allegations against the police. I hope the woman involved gets the help she needs. What doesn't help her is BS like this being posted online.

Never question anything because the police are saints incapable of lying or manipulating victims

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WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:28

PoppinjayPolly · 23/04/2026 22:26

Are you saying the conspiracy is that no woman is ever being raped and it’s all lies, or that the conspiracy is that woman are being raped and it’s getting covered up?

I’m saying the conspiracy theorists are the ones insisting the police are lying for some reason.

Terfedout · 23/04/2026 22:28

PoppinjayPolly · 23/04/2026 22:26

Are you saying the conspiracy is that no woman is ever being raped and it’s all lies, or that the conspiracy is that woman are being raped and it’s getting covered up?

It's fairly obvious what she is saying.

Dollymylove · 23/04/2026 22:27

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PoppinjayPolly · 23/04/2026 22:26

WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:20

It is worrying how many people are buying into this conspiracy bullshit.
There is obviously a very vulnerable woman at the centre of all this and this constant stirring the of the pot and calling for more information is incredibly insensitive.
The police have said all that they need to say - with the woman’s permission. Leave it be now and let the poor woman recover.

Are you saying the conspiracy is that no woman is ever being raped and it’s all lies, or that the conspiracy is that woman are being raped and it’s getting covered up?

PoppinjayPolly · 23/04/2026 22:26

WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:20

It is worrying how many people are buying into this conspiracy bullshit.
There is obviously a very vulnerable woman at the centre of all this and this constant stirring the of the pot and calling for more information is incredibly insensitive.
The police have said all that they need to say - with the woman’s permission. Leave it be now and let the poor woman recover.

Are you saying the conspiracy is that no woman is ever being raped and it’s all lies, or that the conspiracy is that woman are being raped and it’s getting covered up?

Terfedout · 23/04/2026 22:26

WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:20

It is worrying how many people are buying into this conspiracy bullshit.
There is obviously a very vulnerable woman at the centre of all this and this constant stirring the of the pot and calling for more information is incredibly insensitive.
The police have said all that they need to say - with the woman’s permission. Leave it be now and let the poor woman recover.

I hope this whole thread gets deleted. It's disgusting. Unfounded and ridiculous allegations against the police. I hope the woman involved gets the help she needs. What doesn't help her is BS like this being posted online.

WaffleParty · 23/04/2026 22:20

It is worrying how many people are buying into this conspiracy bullshit.
There is obviously a very vulnerable woman at the centre of all this and this constant stirring the of the pot and calling for more information is incredibly insensitive.
The police have said all that they need to say - with the woman’s permission. Leave it be now and let the poor woman recover.

PoppinjayPolly · 23/04/2026 22:18

its all very The Greater Good…

TheCurious0range · 23/04/2026 22:15

There is a woman where I work who has now made several false rape accusations. Now before the pile on yes I know women are raped every day and the conviction rates are frighteningly low, the CJ process for victims of sexual offences is awful. Victims should be believed. This woman has severe psychiatric and substance misuse issues and was the repeat victim of sexual offences when she was young, she uses substances doesn't regularly take her medication and suffers from severe PTSD including vivid flashbacks. When she makes reports she fully believes them and police investigate. Local police would never communicate her situation when another investigation comes to an end without charge, and they are right not to. We have no idea what CCTV etc showed or the vulnerability of this woman. The police have also stated the woman asked for this statement to be made.

Janesmom · 23/04/2026 22:14

Jesus wept! The amount of conspiracy theory stupidity here is something to behold. It speaks volumes for the dreadful standards of education in the UK right now.

IDasIX · 23/04/2026 22:11

I believe women when they report rape. I know that false claims of rape are very rare.

It’s quite obvious from reading the police statement that they are aware they are dealing with a very vulnerable woman. It’s clearly worded to allow her to climb down from a disproven claim, and I’d be very surprised (and angry) if any action was taken against her.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 23/04/2026 22:10

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Notmycircusnotmyotter · 23/04/2026 22:10

Bull shit

Backawayfromthesausage · 23/04/2026 22:09

PoppinjayPolly · 23/04/2026 21:32

Ah so the message is.. “women!!! If you will insist on being raped.. get it on camera or clearly it hasn’t happened!”” ?

If you’re gang raped your body would have signs, it’s not just about cctv

Dollymylove · 23/04/2026 22:08

Figgygal · 23/04/2026 22:00

Because the media cover these crimes linked to migrants disproportionately when you consider the majority of such crimes are committed by family members or those known to the victims = white British men

I get trust in police is low but facts matter and conspiracy theories are unhelpful and just perpetuate disinformation and further mistrust

If there is a failed victim here, I hope she reports Surrey force to the police police complaints commission but otherwise there's no evidence of a crime no matter how much that doesn't suit summer people narratives

The fact that most attacks are carried out by "white British men" doesnt cancel out the illegal immigrant attacks. If they werent roaming free at the taxpayers expense the attacks wouldnt happen.

The victims should sue the government t

Backawayfromthesausage · 23/04/2026 22:08

I also believe this, it feels the woman fell, sustained a head injury , had no signs of sexual assault and no other evidence, I doubt the police announced this. Got the public all concerned then said fuck it lets pressurise her into retraction,

I would assume it’s what it says, just a sad situation and the woman is being supported,

PILEALLTHEPILLSONTHEFLOOR · 23/04/2026 22:05

Firetreev · 23/04/2026 21:50

You could be a troll for all we know too. There are far too many ridiculous threads trying to stir up division on Mumsnet at the moment. I wonder if some are paid for by Reform or Restore.

Yeh Lowe paid me in Robux to make this post

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Dollymylove · 23/04/2026 22:03

Goldfsh · 23/04/2026 22:01

If this is in your news daily then I suggest you are being fed algorithms that encourage that.

Are you denying that these attacks happen?

Goldfsh · 23/04/2026 22:01

Dollymylove · 23/04/2026 21:54

Its all very strange. I dont think we are quite there in terms of a dictatorship yet all though Starmer is doing his best to get us there.
They learned a very harsh lesson trying to cover up the Southport attacks with the "Welsh choirboy" nonsense. I very much doubt they would be idiotic enough to try and deny a gang rape. If it did come out that an attack did happen and it was covered up then the country would pretty much collapse into anarchy. Sounds dramatic I know, and I will probably get my arse flames for saying it, but it seems to be in the news on a daily basis that yet another woman/young girl has been raped by an illegal immigrant

If this is in your news daily then I suggest you are being fed algorithms that encourage that.