No rape took place outside Epsom church, claim police

Well, no, it isn't what we are being asked to believe. The police are not suggesting she made anything up, they are suggesting she was confused as a result of her head injury. And, significantly, only @PoppinjayPolly is claiming that she showed signs of other injuries, and she hasn't responded to any requests for information about where she got that from.

They weren't demonstrating about that. They didn't give one shit about the murdered and injured children, they simply saw a chance to be violent and make trouble for people with the wrong coloured skin. Look at the fools who tried to burn down a hostel including its staff.

You should go and talk to your local mosque and find out about all the things they do to help the community. The suggestion that they "breed" rapists is incredibly offensive.

It was the OP who claimed that she was being accused of self inflicting a head injury and have signs of a violent sexual assault. The news report says no such thing.

You are making an awful lot of racist generalisations there that don't actually accord with the facts. Guess what, when your home gets bombed or you're in imminent danger of arrest and torture for being gay or having the "wrong" political opinions, you can't always collect your passport. There is nothing in the rules on asylum that says it can only be claimed if your country of origin is at war.

You really would find it instructive if you made a little effort to educate yourself, and didn't automatically believe the Reform party and the Mail.

Illegal immigrants don't receive any of that. As I pointed out, if they were stupid enough to turn up asking for a hotel room they would find themselves housed in a detention centre prior to deportation.

There was clear and indisputable evidence that she lied about her whereabouts on several occasions and it was indisputable that she inflicted wounds upon herself. Verified by forensic experts. I hadn't hear anything about a known abuser though x

Glad to see more voices of reason come on to the thread.

She's a liar who had wasted a lot of police resource!

You need to get out more love.
Economic migrants are NOT ‘illegals’ as you so charmingly put it. Our NHS is staffed with many economic migrants for one example. Australia and Canada is full of economic migrants from the UK who were encouraged by their governments to move there after the war in the 60s. People who decide to move to places like Spain or France are economic migrants.

A lot of you on here probably believe this is a "cover up" too. Eleanor Williams: The teenager who faked a grooming scandal also named real abusers | UK News | Sky News https://share.google/wjXzU6qDeJusrlz6p

Don’t be so ridiculous. If there had been a shred of evidence, the investigation would have continued. You’re absolutely desperate for it to be true and for the police to be colluding in a cover up. My question is ‘why’? Why would you be so angry that a woman hasn’t been raped by 5 men as she first claimed? Surely you should be relieved that it didn’t actually happen?
Your agenda is very visible. You desperately want this to have happened and for the so-called perpetrators to have been ‘illegals’.

Shock

If a woman is raped by 5 different people there would have been a myriad of evidence unless of course each of the men wore full PPE and condoms. That evidence isn’t collected and examined by the police alone. For any evidence to have ‘disappeared’ there would have to had been a whole load of people colluding with the police on this.
It is both plausible that a woman could have been raped by 5 men, and it is also plausible that she wasn’t and has ‘misremembered’.

It’s very unusual for such a definitive statement to be made. I’m a journalist. What I take from that statement is that there was clear CCTV of her near the church, not being raped. The statement isn’t that “no rape took place”, it’s that “no rape took place outside the church”. That, they can come out and say with confidence.

There is a real human being at the centre of this, a woman you know nothing about, from her mental health on. No you are not entitled to the gory detail to help you form an opinion. Your opinion is irrelevant. She is what’s important. She’s allowed a statement to come out, and that’s the end of it.

i am absoltely shocked at the conspiracy theorists. If this woman had been gang raped she’d have worn the impact of that, it would be visible on her body. She clearly was not. The police did not en masse decide to force her to retract.

None of us know her mental health, her head injury, of drink or drugs were involved, it is none of our business. She may or may not have believed it at the time, she was confused, for reasons we are not fully aware of.

but demanding details thay invades this woman’s privacy so you can form an opinion isn’t ok,

No riots to manage?

No, it sounds like she had an accident, then fabricated an assault. The reasons why are not known but such incidents are not unheard of.

What would they have to gain by hiding the facts?

I did. It’s not clear enough.

Except in many of those cases there were people who were not complicit in the cover up and were causing a fuss. There’s more avenues now for those people, and in this case there’s clearly public interest in them whistleblowing, they know they can speak out to the public, even if it is anonymously, because whatever the agenda people turned up to demonstrate. If there had been demonstrations against the abuse of the girls at the time and a larger internet interest I believe individuals like Sara would have been listened to and had more avenues for their concerns.

In this case at least at this early stage everyone involved seems absolutely complicit.

I’m assuming you mean Rotham etc rather than our dear former Prince Andrew and his friends.

This thread is proving a very interesting mix of attitudes- entrenched attitudes, as well. I feel I sit a bit oddly here.
I basically believe women, pretty much every time. I don’t yet trust the police to handle abuse and sex assaults well. I am concerned about men entering the country who view women as objects or second class citizens, because we’re adding to the number of misogynistic men and boys we already fail to deal with.

That said, I have no hesitation in accepting this as a case where a woman’s distressed and confused and mistakenly reports an incident that didn’t happen- on this occasion. Something may have happened, or this may have happened to her in the past. But the pattern of information release, the issue about describing the assailants feels right.

I was heartened in the otherwise the dreadful case of Christopher Trybus, that the police attempted to bring three cases against him. They appear to have been very persistent in their attempts to prosecute him, even if the prosecution ultimately failed.

Or very under the influence of social media / other racists. Wouldn't be the first.

So do I and that isn't my experience at all.

I can't see how this is a cover up. If this had happened there would be CCTV and witnesses of the people involved. Do people really think the police would be able to suppress all of that in this day and age of SM?

I admit I thought the wording about the head injury is strange. It's badly worded and seems like it's a 'get out' for the woman. But I don't like the implications that a head injury can result in a false rape claim. Seems pretty unlikely and will just be added to the reason to doubt women.