No rape took place outside Epsom church, claim police

Because the media cover these crimes linked to migrants disproportionately when you consider the majority of such crimes are committed by family members or those known to the victims = white British men

I get trust in police is low but facts matter and conspiracy theories are unhelpful and just perpetuate disinformation and further mistrust

If there is a failed victim here, I hope she reports Surrey force to the police police complaints commission but otherwise there's no evidence of a crime no matter how much that doesn't suit summer people narratives

Its all very strange. I dont think we are quite there in terms of a dictatorship yet all though Starmer is doing his best to get us there.
They learned a very harsh lesson trying to cover up the Southport attacks with the "Welsh choirboy" nonsense. I very much doubt they would be idiotic enough to try and deny a gang rape. If it did come out that an attack did happen and it was covered up then the country would pretty much collapse into anarchy. Sounds dramatic I know, and I will probably get my arse flames for saying it, but it seems to be in the news on a daily basis that yet another woman/young girl has been raped by an illegal immigrant

You could be a troll for all we know too. There are far too many ridiculous threads trying to stir up division on Mumsnet at the moment. I wonder if some are paid for by Reform or Restore.

This is by far the most likely scenario here.

If it is as others suggest, the woman will have various legal avenues open to her.

I hope she is getting help and support in any event.

The impression I got reading the article was that she had a traumatic head injury- perhaps from a fall- and was confused about how she’d been hurt. She wasn’t able to describe her attackers, or was very muddled about it. There was no forensic evidence.

They say she is being supported, perhaps to recover from the confusion.

Yes, the police could be fabricating or covering up everything, but it’s also possible a woman with a traumatic head wound can’t remember what happened and describes what she feared rather than what she remembered.

I was very, very off my face once and was convinced I was raped. I had a lot of evidence that it may have happened - physical injuries etc. HOWEVER, it was also entirely possible that I was having a very very bad reaction to what I'd taken. I now think it's very unlikely - and I wasn't entirely sure at that time.

Add on a head injury and I can easily imagine that I could have convinced myself that something had happened.

That was long before CCTV.

Was I a liar? No. Was I raped? Unlikely. Did I need support? Definitely.

Ah so the message is.. “women!!! If you will insist on being raped.. get it on camera or clearly it hasn’t happened!”” ?

For goodness sake, stop scraping the barrel.

I don't think so. This has been thoroughly investigated, no supporting evidence has been found and the overall conclusion is that it didn't happen. It's not helpful or constructive to look for some hidden agenda here.

Agree but as you can see, already all the self righteous “she’s a liar!!!” Has started with the virtue spiral! Again was it not the Guardian who called the women who reported sexual assaults on Cologne 2015 liars?

No, but I'm thinking the police do. Hence their statement?

So are they saying she was lying about being gang raped because no assault occurred - or because she consented to it? It's not entirely clear.

I was just reading this on BBC news and came here to see if there was a thread about it - something just feels really, really off about it. I hope the woman is ok and receiving support. I hope the truth comes out and if the police have pressured her into retracting her claim, the officers invoiced should be sacked share with perverting the course of justice, plus anything else that can be thrown at them.

I'm with the police. In an area such as this, there would be CCTV galore. They failed to show a rape or even consensual sex. It would be impossible for the police to outright lie about this, as the people who submitted it from their shop or ring door bells or dash cams would hav already seen it before submitting it and many of them would have had a copy made routinely. Surely you don't believe all these people are colluding?

Well if true… she’s clearly must be very psychiatrically unwell for that level of self harm?

Yes.

So you have insider knowledge to know she’s made it up?

I'm glad the truth is our. Well done Surrey Police.

Just to clarify, I really really hope this didn’t happen. It just all sounds very odd and that is concerning.

The government are clear that ‘narrative management’ is a priority for them. There are so many issues with police priorities at the moment - it doesn’t feel like we are high on their list.

The statement from the cops includes the detail that there is NO forensic evidence at all of assault. They will have taken her clothes etc. very unlikely to have been attacked and have no saliva etc on her clothing. That’s been the delay I suspect, a full forensic analysis.

I’m having horrendous shades of the 2015 Cologne rapes… has anyone told this woman to check her privilege yet?

Sadly, gangs rapes are far less rare than false rape accusations.

PP on another thread shared foi data that listed 7600 gang rapes between 2010-2018 just in the Metropolitan Police area.

This also included data on nationality of the perpetrators.

Trust in the police is at an all time low and they seem to be doing little to regain it. The government seem to be exacerbating the situation.

I see no reason not to believe this.

There are generally rape crisis centres funded by police and crime commissioners and run by women that support these types of crime. If there was physical evidence, it would be found. It's unlikely that a gang rape happened and no evidence was left behind.

It's very reminiscent of the Banbury claims last year: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/oct/03/no-evidence-alleged-rape-banbury-oxfordshire-took-place-say-police