Aren't transpeople still a tiny minority?

I didn't ask a question, so I have lost you I'm afraid.

I'm glad your kid stays out of female spaces.

But he's still playing acting membership of a group he has in reality no experience of being and never can experience being.

So while his identity and feelings, his "making sense of himself", may be genuine, in calling himself "she" or "a girl/woman" to name them he has picked the wrong word for what he feels.

Those of us who actually are the thing those words mean have every moral right to object to him and you using them to mean something different even if some parts of society currently want to deny us that right.

Does your child believe strongly that a woman is a male or female person who can only be differentiated from a "man" male or female person because of some indescribable feeling?

If so, then I would say that on top of the other statistical risks that pertain to men, their sexist beliefs are harmful.

And in answer to your question, it depends on how you define transpeople. If you mean people who want to permanantly be the opposite sex, then perhaps that's a small number, but it's also an exclusionary definition.

If you mean people who don't have a gender identity they feel aligns with their sex then that'll include lots more people.

You can't police my language pal.
You can use "he", I will use "she", thanks very much.

🤣🤣 let’s give the OP a chance! 😉

I don't feel particularly physically threatened by trans women over other men.

I do feel insulted by their reductive view of what it is to be a "woman" and their belief that this should be the authorative version of womanhood.

And I am both aghast and furious at the weak and sexist cultural, legal and political establishment that is going along with that, and pushing for these neo-sexist and disordered ideas about "men" and "wonen" to become the actual practical definition of men and women.

And I'm horrified that these sexist ideas have created a culture where physical interventions on the body, sometimes on very young people, are seen as necessary just to make their bodies closer to what a sexist reading of their mind tells them they are supposed to be.

Claiming male people experience womanhood while also claiming to be a "feminst" turns "Feminism" as they practice it into a joke that actually deligitimises female voices and the reality of female experiences and sex-based risks and challenges. It undermines the very rights and resources that are supposed to support us.

Simply being aware that many of the formal and informal structures of power in our society not only privilege a man's view of what it is to be me over mine but would actually punish me for describing my own reality and needs if they disagree with his, makes me feel unsafe, at risk.

So that's why, regardless of the size of the physical threat, I consider the public validation and acceptance of the belief that some men are genuinely closer to women than other men because of something in their mind a significant threat to women's rights and social safety.

This is the reaction to being told ‘no, you should respect female people’s needs for single sex provisions’ by a celebrity. Why have we been led to believe that male people who believe they are women are different to any other male person who ignores women’s boundaries and reject women saying ‘no’.

Alexandra Billings self published these videos . This one first I believe.

https://x.com/gaynotqueer1/status/2032811484271817092?s=46

Then the chilling and menacing response to women saying 'no' here stitched into Amy Sousa’s response.

https://x.com/knownheretic/status/2032639781658833142?s=46

The menace is chilling to see. Yet, apparently we are supposed to welcome these same men into provisions designated as single sex for our protection from men threatening and intimidating us.

It becomes so clear that these men hate female people in general when they gloat over not being able to stop them accessing provisions that they should be excluded from and lack the inclination to self exclude from. Just as they gloat over organisational decisions to remove female single sex provisions in response to law changes that exclude male people from those provisions.

At the same time, we are supposed to believe that these men are most vulnerable and marginalised.

Here is another set of videos that shows the same dynamic.

Daviana. Who started posting videos about how he knew he was a man etc. He was considered to be 'one of the reasonable ones' because of that.

Of course, as he has made more videos more has come out about what and how he really thinks. .

https://x.com/KnownHeretic/status/2031523680136868150?s=20

https://x.com/KnownHeretic/status/2031873045682667588?s=20

https://x.com/KnownHeretic/status/2031975467725832460?s=20

These men are chilling once you see what they really think. We see it regularly when male people with transgender identities intimidate and threaten us at women’s events. From Baker (‘punch a terf’) to the man yelling at us to stop murdering children just the other weekend.

The gloating from Daviana and Billings as they envision negative impacts on female people because they rejected his demands seems to be highlighting just how common that reaction is from men who don’t get what they want from women.

Billings and Daviana are just two men who are showing women who they really are. It seems some men really cannot help themselves in showing that these demands are also part of the power dynamic.

So, are who are supposed to believe? The men telling us they are women and as a group are no threat to women at all, or do we consider the MoJ statistics and understand that these men are a greater threat to female people than other female people. In far, that they are likely to still be at least the same risk to female people as the general male population. Because they are still male?

Yes trans people are a tiny minority.
And trans eople have full humam rights to live their best life with dignity and equality.
Saying that a transwoman remains male is not hateful and does nor prevent that transwoman from that dignity and equality. It is not possible to have any kind of different arrangements for male people and female people if some male people are included in the female category, by definition. Destroying the separate arrangements that women need from time to time as a fundamental consequence of having a different biological reality to male people is too high a price to pay to satisfy the wishes of the male people who want reality to be other than it is. Any accommodations that are made for transwomen are accessible to all male people whatever their gender identity because there is no way to verify anyone's gender identity objectively. Transwomen are no more or less likely to be a threat than any other male person but any measure that is intended to protect women from dangerous men is useless if there is an exemption for transwomen not because the threat is more likely from transwomen but because any exemption will be used by the people who are the dangerous ones because the exemption can be claimed by anyone. No one has the tight to be protected from facts when reality is sad, that is not one of the human rights.

What is the difference between a “cisgender man” and a “transwoman” apart from clothing?

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Pink hair ? A rabid sense of entitlement?

I watched this the other day, great 'lived experience' video and because it comes from a man, the OP might be able to watch it.

No, "they" don't. My trans daughter doesn't access women's spaces or awards. She accesses trans spaces (eg swimming for trans and gender non conforming people). She is a gentle soul who has never hurt a fly and doesn't go around "demanding" anything. She is annoyed at activists stirring up a culture war. She has a group of friends from trans swimming who feel similarly. All are autistic. They just want the freedom to live in a way that makes sense to them.

You are correct for the older age groups and that’s why women were expected to just deal with this situation. A sort of fudge or work around that wasnt quite legal but not common enough to deal with properly

But when I looked at the Scottish census stats a while ago trans identities are about 1 in 75 for the age group 18-35. I think it’s fair to assume that would apply across the UK based on what Ive observed when out in public on a regular day out in town.

So I’d say that for the younger age groups, trans is fairly common and therefore it’s no longer (if it ever was) unreasonable to expect women to “budge up” to accommodate their demands. At the rate of 1 in 75 they should have proper facilities of their own and to stay out of the ladies’

What’s the difference, to you, when you’re ‘querying’ your ‘statistics’ between a fake woman and a real man? What makes them different apart from the frock?

transwomen are not a homogeneous type. Some are perfectly normal and some are clearly mentally unwell. I would avoid any male who was mentally unwell no matter what they are wearing

Thats not really true though is it? They are males who demand women give up their hard won sex based rights so they can gain gratification and validation from accessing women's spaces, sports and representation. They want to be able to compel others to participate in their delusion to the point that women who didn't lost their jobs, were threatened and at times actually assaulted. Even many of these who are themselves non violent still support those who populate the pages of TERF is a slur | Documenting the abuse, harassment and misogyny of transgender identity politics

They aren't a group of poor misunderstood women, they are bullying and demanding males who care very little for actual women.

the census data on "trans ppl" is completely flawed because thanks to ONS having a TW in a high position, the question about gender was completely useless - see article by dr Michael Biggs https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00380385241240441

There’s no such thing as cis gender

Just a reminder since the word ‘cis’ has been used.

The term 'cis' is meaningless because the term includes any male person who has a DSD yet has a body that is **formed around the production of small gametes that has any degree of sensitivity to any of the testosterone that body produces.

Using this word, cis, then means there is no word left for female people.

Because even male people are now saying they are also ‘female’ . When ^^ female means only a person of the sex category where that person's body has been formed around the production of large gametes, regardless of whether the body does, has or ever will produce those large gametes. ie that requires the presence of ovaries or ovarian tissue - never testes. This has also recently been the basis of the new IOC policy too,

(from the IOC policy:

This is under the definitions section:
Sex: Either of the two categories, Male or Female, into which humans are divided according to their reproductive biology.
Biological Female (Female): An individual who, regardless of their legal sex or gender identity, experienced female sex development usually based on their XX-chromosomes, ovaries, and estrogenic hormones.

https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Documents/International-Olympic-Committee/EB/policy/policy-on-the-protection-of-the-female-category-english.pdf )

In fact, we now have examples of many male people declaring that they are female people. So even the word for female has become meaningless in that sense.

But 'cis' is a* *word that was repurposed from its original usage and is meaningless for the purpose of discussing female people in its current usage. It has been used in academic papers as well in an attempt at using inclusive language which then renders the papers meaningless because the term is not describing a unique grouping of human bodies, even when it claims to be doing just that.

To see how this works, we have been told that 'girl' and 'woman' both now include:

1 Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **.
2 Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.
3 And any person who has a female body ^^.

Under the label of 'girl' and 'woman', extreme transgender activists have been telling us for years that those labels break down into two types of girls or women:

Cis and Transwomen/transgirls.
These terms mean:

Cis
= (1) Male person who has been incorrectly registered as a female at birth, but has a male body **
and
= (3) Any person who has a female body^^
Trans
= (2) Any male person has now claimed a transgender identity using those labels.

Therefore there is no unique word to mean female people who have a body ^^ formed around the production of large gametes.

Cis is meaningless as a unique description for female people and it always was. It is also misogynistic because it leaves female people with no unique word for their needs.

Transwomen are men. There levels and patterns of offending remain at least as high as non trans identified men and if anything trans identified males in prison are more likely to be in there for sexual offenses.

If I encounter a transwoman I treat them the way I would any other male, as a potential threat, that's especially the case if they happen to be in a space where I am especially vulnerable i.e. single sex spaces. My feeling is that if these were genuinely good people then they would know how threatening many women find males in such spaces and would stay out. The fact that they choose to prioritise their own gratification over actual women's safety, dignity and rights marks them out as a wrong'un.

Wow, if that is the case, they are really overrepresented in the prison stats, especially for sexual crimes.

And if you are avoiding one of the men, I'd suggest avoiding any that outwardly display signs of mental instability.

Cross sex hormones have a lot to answer for, they are being used as tictac replacements for genuine mental health help. And it's starting to show.

People who say they’re trans may indeed be a minority, but fuck me don’t we know about them.

In a FB group I’m in, one bloke in particular bombards it with his ‘girl’ feelz. Head tilt, smirk - the usual. And the amount of gushing over him is nauseating.