A Reddit discussion focussing on Trans and not being shut down / users downvoted into oblivion

Who spods in trauma over show runner Russell T Davies admitting he has TERFy friends

https://www.reddit.com/r/DoctorWhumour/comments/1trz79n/everyone_seeing_that_rtd_article_context_on_the/

Perfectly put!

Its a matter of interpretation, surely?

People on here (mostly) want women to be able to have spaces away from men. You call that "segregation" because you believe some men are women and its wong to segregate the male women from other women. People on here think all men are men, so its perfectly reasonable to allow women spaces away from all of them.

If TIM are not permitted to access womens spaces, some claim they will not be able to go out, play sports etc. You call "driven from society" people on here would point out that TIM can fully participate in society, provided they use unisex spaces or those designed for their sex. And given that most aspects of society are unisex by default, there would be very limited restriction anyway.

People on here are concerned about the transition of children, particularly medical transition and want this stopped. You call this "detransition". People on here call it protecting children from irreversible bodily modifications at an age too young to give fully informed consent. I have never once seen any poster on here argue that anyine should be forced to "detransition".

People on here are (mostly) fully accepting there are people who wish to live in accordance with the stereotypes of the opposite sex and have no wish to prevent them.
Most are GC which means being opposed to forcing people to conform to sex based stereotypes. So there would be no wish to "eradicate" people who do this.
However, people on here are mostly sex realist, and so don't accept that living in accordance with opposite sex stereotypes makes one that sex. This means that where sex matters, they will not support a person who claims to be the opposite sex to access spaces for their preferred sex. This is not "eradicating" them as people, but simply protecting single sex provisions.

This is a truly disgusting thread about the guidance . And includes a post that must be a toilet/ poo fetish

https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/s/p2NcCXuQME

Agreed.

I'll third.

Asking gents to use the gents is hardly eliminationism. The hyperbole surrounding any deviation from absolute obedience to the cult is spectacularly unhelpful both to trans people’s mental health and (judging by the number of deletions on here) your own. People disagreeing is a sign of a healthy society.

Charli I’m glad you’re on here. Always good to keep an open mind and listen to others. You don’t seem very open minded though. You seem to have decided you are the ‘good’ person and anyone who is not on script with TRA is evil and wrong. Your repeated incredulity that we can’t be real mothers is also very odd - bit misogynistic to conflate being a mum with being passive and ‘kind’ (let anyone walk all over your rights without complaint).

You sound naive. This thread isn’t a great example of the battle women are having online to protest against the TRA determination to push their agenda in a way that attempts to silence and punish women.

It is odd that such a small group of people cause such a huge amount of debate but the women on here are smart enough to recognise the threat to unquestioned acceptance of that agenda.

Do you think men should be able to compete in women’s sports? Do you think minors should be given hormones and surgery? Do you think male sex offenders should be allowed in women’s prisons? Do you think humans can change sex? Do you think people should be punished for not agreeing that humans can change sex?

I do know a couple of transwomen and a transman. We get along fine. I don’t personally like either of the transwomen as they are both selfish and self absorbed and demanding and unstable people but I’m sure some transwomen are lovely. There have always been trans people and always will be and good luck to them but just like everyone else they have to fit their rights in with everyone else’s.

Just use the gents, gents.

Useful to have a definition, thank you.

It serves to underline the fact that we don't perceive this subset of men as "enemies". We simply don't want men in women's spaces, services and sports.

Have any of you even had a negative experience with a trans woman in the loo?

I don't want either negative or positive experiences with men when i'm in the loo thanks. No experiences with men in the ladies is my preference and my right.

Maybe a little research might have helped you there.

The belief or policy that a group of people perceived as enemies should be expelled or eradicated.

Oxford University Press. (n.d.). Eliminationism, n., 2. In Oxford English dictionary. Retrieved May 23, 2026, from doi.org/10.1093/OED/6605177188

Is eliminationism supposed to be a real word? I don’t think so….

Mothers a no no, to be in the cult they should be referring to themselves as Offspring Bearer, or Human that Gave Birth to Child, not mother.
They sound like a very fair weather cult member, off with their head. 😂

I don't believe in cis. This undermines my rights as a woman. And a man still remains a man after surgery because it is cosmetic surgery not a magic wand that changes the whole reproductive system and cell make up. There is no such thing as changing sex.

Far too niche.

Cis is a slur and if reported, will get you deleted on here.

If you can manage to string two sentences together without raging, please do explain how men change into women, and at what point the change happens, thanks in advance.

What I don’t understand is, how did the CIS get their own gender? As far as I know, no other professional body has its own gender. What is so special about CIS? Do you have to have a CSCS card to be this gender or is it self id?
I do applaud you being a woman in construction though. Well done on smashing gender stereotypes.

There's no such thing as cisgender. This is an offensive term.

Mother only accurately applies to women.

If you had been here for more than two seconds you would know there are multiple posters who yes have had negative experiences with transwomen and their behaviour, because shock horror, transwomen are men and men are human and men are capable of being shithead as being transwomen does not make them somehow saintly men who can do no wrong.

Bad men do bad things. Some of these bad men claim a trans identity. Women want the same protections they have from men to also apply to transwomen rather than transwomen to be given a status of unquestionable and unchallengeable - because this is actively dangerous.

Trans identifying men do not take HRT. They can’t - because they’re not replacing hormones they’ve lost / have naturally depleted as part of menopause.

What they (well, at least the proportion who can be bothered to even go that far) are doing is dosing their bodies with concentrations of hormones that evolution didn’t tailor them for.

And taking massive doses of oestrogen doesn’t ‘transition’ anything. It shrinks their testes a bit and adds some fat to their chest but it doesn’t magic up a set of ovaries, produce a womb, alter their pelvic girdle, reduce their height or shrink their Adam’s apple.

They’ll maintain whatever levels of aggression they had before the hormones, their brains will remain as they were, and future archaeologists will be able to identify them as men from their skeletal remains.

I believe men (and women) should be able to present however they prefer, wearing whatever makes them happiest, without fear of violence or open derision. I don’t believe it’s ‘kind’ to pander to delusions around ‘lady brain’ or ‘born the wrong sex’ or ‘assigned’ sex at birth or all the other nonsense that gets regurgitated by TRAs.

And women (and men) deserve the privacy and safety of single SEX spaces in toilets, changing rooms, prisons etc and should be able to compete in sports, fairly, against their own sex.

I looked just now and a heck of a lot of deletions.